Like you I was wondering the same thing. More specifically how do they compare to S&W 41 PC model.

 

Crankster,

I've never seen one on the line, either. I can't imagine the Volqartsen being any better than the ones in your stable.

If you want a new toy, I understand perfectly.:bthumb:

MLAICshooter,

Expect to dump money in that PC41 to make it competitive.

 

I have volquartsen TF black mamba 6 inch barrel I shoot it better than my pc model 41 ! The volquartsen will shoot a much wider range of ammo ! I have 10 barrels for my 41 all are very accurate! The 41 took a little work to get it reliable! The volquartsen has run flawlessly with no extra work and for me I shoot it better! The grips on model 41 are my biggest issue either too wide or to thin ! The volquartsen grips fit like a glove and the trigger on 41 is good but volquartsen has a better trigger at least mine does ! Off hand 30 feet I can shoot through same hole with volquartsen I can’t do that with 41 off hand! Off a rest they are both accurate with the Ammo they prefer! That’s my experience with them I like both and plan on keeping them to shoot and pass them to my grandson some day! If I was on a budget and could only have one it would be volquartsen but I’m blessed and don’t have to make that choice!

 

I have a Volquartsen Scorpion and Masters model based on a Mark III frame.
Both will cut holes but the Masters is a bit better.
They run really well too.
But neither can shoot groups as small as their bore diameter like my 6” Pardini SP Bullseye can on occasion.
If I knew what I know now several years ago, I would now own 2 Pardini SP Bullseye 22 rimfire pistols and nothing else.

 

One thing parts are a lot more available for volquartsen!

 

Volquartsen is not quite there with a true competition precision pistol. I love mine but it doesn't match the handling and ergonomics of my Hammerlis or my Pardini. Still, for a beginner it could be a good choice and I have no doubt that Scott and Nik could design and produce a purpose-built competition pistol if the market would support it.

 

That’s the biggest thing bullseye is not as popular as it once was ! So they build guns to sell in current market! And steel plate shooting is most popular sport going on now ! So lighter more balanced guns is what most people want! Lgs has a bunch of model 41 s because there not sell! He told me he sells volquartsen and ruger quicker than he can get them ! People wanting them for steel challenge shooting!

 

I have two

 

I would use there stainless upper for bullseye it has weight to it

 

I shot mine for one season of Bullseye configured how you see it in this photo.

The trigger pull was a bit lower than legal so my results weren't reported, and and my scores couldn't be used in our postal league.
But I didn't care, I just wanted to shoot.

Accuracy wise I doubt any purpose built Bullseye pistol is more accurate, but ergonomically I'm sure that they would be better set up.
This specific Volquartsen pistol was very well balanced (V2000), but I cant speak for other models.

20 shots of CCI SV at 25yds. For the league matches I shot SK+ which grouped even better, but I can't find the test photo.

In compassion to SW 41's, I never had a single alibi in the entire season.

Smooth

I do own a very nice Air Pistol.

The accuracy and trigger are oustanding.

 

I just ordered a Mamba TF to try in our club’s informal bullseye matches. I am currently shooting a lightly modified Hammerli Xesse. And I am averaging 270/300 at 50’ for 12 weeks. I actually don’t expect the Mamba to shoot any better than my Hammerli mainly because all of my bad shots are caused my me. I started off shooting a stock Mark III then upgraded to a heavily modified SW Victory. The Victory was very precise and accurate but the trigger just wasn’t there for me. I am a former F T/R shooter.

I am either going to love the Mamba TF or it will be a dedicated plinking/squirrel hunting gun. One of the main reasons I purchased the gun anyway is for it to be a suppressor host.

 

These Pardini and Hammerli's are nice pistols. I would be leary of any accuracy claims and take them with a grain of salt when it comes to handguns.
I have seen what a Volquartsen can do with my own two eyes. Which is why I bought one. And have a tricked out factory barrelled Buckmark with a red dot sight that would blow your mind.

Now this is just a buckmark off a rest at measured 50 feet on an ARA benchrest card.
There are 5 shots in one target (#18) and more than 5 in the other two. This is off a rest. But, we are talking about accuracy.

Just to show that I didn't get lucky 3 times in a row. Here is another one on the same card, only these are the little bity ones on the card.
I could not see the center bullseye dot at 50 feet, obviously, but I could make out the circle.
So what I am saying here is, accuracy wise, how can anyone say a Pardini, is more accurate than a VQ or a Hammerli is any more or less accurate than a Pardini? Or even a Browning Buckmark. The Two pistols , Hammerli and Pardini, are most certainly better suited for offhand shooting, I would think. But more accurate than a VQ or even a Browning? I don't think so.

And here we have what used to be a bug. At the same distance. On the same ARA benchrest card.
Shot with a Buckmark.

 

That Buckmark is gorgeous.

 

I bought mine because the VQ is versatile , accurate and good looking.
It's also built like a tank and allows for multiple accessories such as scopes, red dots, lights, bipods and whatever you want to hang on it. Has a tough finish on it. It will be great for hunting day or night, going long range off a bipod, and it's just a beautiful pistol. My Browning is beautiful. It has Doug Turnbulls color case on it. Highly polished rosewood grips. Just too pretty to drag through the woods. No lights, no bipods. So, I took the plunge. Now I will have two really nice .22 handguns. And that will be it for me because all you really need is one real nice, accurate, rifle or pistol.
Usually when you finally find that , one, the others just lay around gathering dust and rust.

 

I bought mine because the VQ is versatile , accurate and good looking.
It's also built like a tank and allows for multiple accessories such as scopes, red dots, lights, bipods and whatever you want to hang on it. Has a tough finish on it. ...........

I did the same after reading the good reviews of Volquartsen Black Mamba pistols. I have not shot mine yet, just got it two days ago. But I removed the iron sights and installed an UltraDot MatchDot sight. My eyes don't work so well with iron sights. I must say the iron sights on the Black Mamba looked exceptional.

The VBM will join the stable containing two Buck Marks and a S&W Model 41 arriving early next week. My Buck Marks are fairly generic, no modifications other than adding a Holosun 407 to one, and an UltraDot MatchDot to the other.

Doug

 

Volquartsen classic Has new bullseye pistol

 

I have this one in mark iii style and I like it better than my model 41 much more reliable

 

I just ordered a NMK IV Classic, and am looking forward to wringing it out!
I've shot for 40 years now, and shot everything from a Ruger MK1: to a Walther GSP.
My most recent battle axe has been a used-up MK II that was full of Volquartsen bits and pieces.
But I've only managed to make expert; so I hope my opinion counts for something! 😁

 

If I didn’t have this I would order one

 

Does anybody know if they'll ship those MK IV Classics without sights?
My eyesight is so bad that even my seeing eye dog uses a white-tipped cane!
Seriously: a Picatinny rail and Venom red dot sight are already waiting in my gunbox...

 

You can remove the sights or just add a mount they are drilled and tapped for a mount

 

Thanks: but I just don't have any need for storing more gun parts that I'll never use...
I contacted the "Mother Ship"; but they haven't gotten back to me...

 

I’m sure if you call and tell them what you want they would be more than happy to get you what you want

 

I'm still waiting to hear back from them about NOT having any open sights on the pistol.
And it seems like such a simple question...

 

Assuming you are mounting something like the highly regarded Ultra-Dot that models weigh between 6 and 9 ounces, the Volquartsen pistols go from light to heavy. Most are allegedly around 33 ounces but the one Turtle likes is probably close to 48 ounces. I have the Scorpion all stainless that with muzzle brake comes in around 58 ounces! I think most of the Pardini's and others are around 40 ounces naked and from a previous thread on balance they are usually near the trigger pin. If you have a heavier pistol, it might want a light 2oz micro dot style on it. Point being there might be a best overall weight with dot scope mounted that most shooters use, and I have no idea what that is.

 

Cranky: Not trying to be flippant, but if we take accuracy out of the equation because it is a given, isn't all that's left the haptics/fit/feel of the pistol in your particular hands? If the answer to that is "yes," then won't my experience with a VQ be like my experience with LL Bean boots: specific to me and my pod-like feet? (I hate LL Bean boots)

Here's my data point for ya: I have a couple of VQ barrels and am NOT a bullseye shooter by any means. But I have tested them off rests with enough different types of ammo to know that with a red dot, they can perform really well at up to 50 yards. That said, my medium sized hands do NOT get along with the "Volthane" rubber grips, which look cool, but put my hand in all kinds of the wrong position to do anything with any repeatability. And one of my VQ barrels is chromed steel, which I find "front heavy" -- hard to believe that anyone could shoot it accurately for a whole match without Popeye's forearms.

 

I have an older Volquartsen V6 Custom built on the MKII action...beautiful zebrawood grips, BO-MAR sights...shoots great but never really shot it much in competition.