I have a couple friends that have Summits, I wouldn't take 5 Summits for 1 of my Izhmash Biathalons. Much smoother operating and they are pretty much bullet proof. Bad thing is, 10 round magazines are nearly non-existent so unless you get one with the gun it'll be hard to locate one. Accuracy is amazing rivalling my better more expensive target rimfires. They both love cheap Geco Rifle even out to 350 yards.

Just my opinion after handling and shooting both.

This is my first one just after putting it together.

This is Chris' new one with a suppressor.

Topstrap

 

If you ever want to trade I will take 5 summits for a biathlon basic I'll even through in a 10 round magazine. I see you seem impressed by hitting a 6" square at 50 yards and cycling what you think is fast. Or your replacement stocks. If you want a serious discussion I OWN samples of both summit and biathlon basic and guns I keep must shoot and I'm not talking 6" squares at 50. I'm aware izhmash rifles shoot .

This thread was exactly what I needed to hear. For quite some time, I've been torn between a VQ Summit, and a Ruger American Rimfire Target. I used to own an Izhmash many years ago, and I do miss the straight pull action quite much, but if I would be disappointed by the VQ's action compared to it, I'd rather just go with the much cheaper ruger.

You weren't/aren't serious about volquartsen summit if your back up choice is a ruger American talk about different classes of guns...ruger American has nothing on a summit besides price. I guess I could understand wanting both but wouldn't settle for a ruger over volquartsen. Volquartsen has made a living making rugers better

I just got my Summit in .22lr with the carbon barrel and Magpul stock. I mounted a Monstrum 2-7x32mm scope as it was the only scope I had on hand at the moment and took it out to the range first chance I got. This is my first toggle-bolt action rifle and it is fun to shoot. Faster than a bolt action, but more engaging than my 10/22. I don't have any match grade ammo (only had the 500rd bulk pack stuff) but it was shooting about 1-1/2" groups at 50 yards. Pretty sure I could have shrunken them down to about 1" if I had a decent bench rest and better ammo.

I've been reading up on action bedding and floating the barrel. I'm of two minds on the subject - I've read some have not had good results from floating a bull barrel and other saying they shoot one ragged hole after bedding and floating. I figure I'm going to leave it stock for now and go out again and try to mess with the barrel support adjustment and see how well I can dial things in. Once I get things as well as I can, then I would consider bedding the action and floating the barrel. In most cases, I'm pretty sure I am the biggest limiting factor in how well the rifle can shoot and bedding and floating would only give me a slight improvement.

At any rate, I like this rifle and plan to put any boxes of ammo downrange with it. I'm also rather pleased with the inexpensive Monstrum scope. For an Amazon scope that was under $80, it held zero perfectly, was easy to adjust, and has both red and green illuminated reticle. Think I'll stick with it for a while longer.

I guess I dont understand the logic behind this it's your own gun and you are free to do to it as you please but to buy a volquartsen just to put cheap scope and ammo through it I just feel isnt a real test or defeats the purpose of a quality rifle.

 

As far as accuracy probably has a lot to do with your setup including, barrel, trigger etc. As far as the headspace opening up and linkage problems I believe they have made the changes necessary to eliminate that problem. I have mine adjusted so that I can flip it open and closed with my index finger. I do have fairly good sized hands though. If you buy a summit action or complete rifle I would stay away from a real early one unless the mods have been done to it.

 

I'm amending my previous comment a bit. I've like the 10-22 guns and for the money they are hard to beat. Using it to make a straight pull action was pretty creative but after handling a Izhmash it's just not the same. The money spent on a Summit would go a long ways getting an Izhmash and an ARS chassis from Joe.

Topstrap

 

This thread was exactly what I needed to hear. For quite some time, I’ve been torn between a VQ Summit, and a Ruger American Rimfire Target. I used to own an Izhmash many years ago, and I do miss the straight pull action quite much, but if I would be disappointed by the VQ’s action compared to it, I’d rather just go with the much cheaper ruger.

 

I have several Anschutz, a cooper, LOT's of 10/22's, Ruger precision, 2 custom CZ's one is a Don Smith, even a Vudoo V22 - but my favorite is the Summit

 

When it comes to longevity, I would think this action will last for quite a few rounds. If you are going to shoot thousands and thousands you may want to stay with a bolt gun but who knows. This is a fun action though so if you want one go for it. Because of how Topstrap and others like the izhmash, I have been watching for one for a while now but they have been hard to find locally.

On another note I have been thinking about buying or building a good rimfire barrel and seeing what I can get it to do but I hate to take it out of the squirrel gun line-up. It shoots pretty good with an ER Shaw 17hm2 barrel, BX trigger and home built stock. Its at least good enough for squirrels. I did go through the headspace and broken linkage issues but have complete faith with my upgraded action.

 

When it comes to longevity, I would think this action will last for quite a few rounds. If you are going to shoot thousands and thousands you may want to stay with a bolt gun but who knows. This is a fun action though so if you want one go for it. Because of how Topstrap and others like the izhmash, I have been watching for one for a while now but they have been hard to find locally.

On another note I have been thinking about buying or building a good rimfire barrel and seeing what I can get it to do but I hate to take it out of the squirrel gun line-up. It shoots pretty good with an ER Shaw 17hm2 barrel, BX trigger and home built stock. Its at least good enough for squirrels. I did go through the headspace and broken linkage issues but have complete faith with my upgraded action.

Nice work on the stock

 

I just got my Summit in .22lr with the carbon barrel and Magpul stock. I mounted a Monstrum 2-7x32mm scope as it was the only scope I had on hand at the moment and took it out to the range first chance I got. This is my first toggle-bolt action rifle and it is fun to shoot. Faster than a bolt action, but more engaging than my 10/22. I don't have any match grade ammo (only had the 500rd bulk pack stuff) but it was shooting about 1-1/2" groups at 50 yards. Pretty sure I could have shrunken them down to about 1" if I had a decent bench rest and better ammo.

I've been reading up on action bedding and floating the barrel. I'm of two minds on the subject - I've read some have not had good results from floating a bull barrel and other saying they shoot one ragged hole after bedding and floating. I figure I'm going to leave it stock for now and go out again and try to mess with the barrel support adjustment and see how well I can dial things in. Once I get things as well as I can, then I would consider bedding the action and floating the barrel. In most cases, I'm pretty sure I am the biggest limiting factor in how well the rifle can shoot and bedding and floating would only give me a slight improvement.

At any rate, I like this rifle and plan to put any boxes of ammo downrange with it. I'm also rather pleased with the inexpensive Monstrum scope. For an Amazon scope that was under $80, it held zero perfectly, was easy to adjust, and has both red and green illuminated reticle. Think I'll stick with it for a while longer.

 

GRG

Please tell me what stock that is on your Summit....
Have been seriously thinking about a Summit....

 

To the op volquartsen had issues with early toggles due to the heat treating process. Find an action where the toggle is gloss. I have had them since they came out after the latest update I've had no issues.. I got a complete gun and enjoy it and is accurate with quality ammo. I'm not sure anyone on here has enough rounds through a volquartsen summit action or rifle to give you an honest answer. I have faith that volquartsen will take care of you if you ever had issues which I think they are past they are making mach ii and wsm now so I'm sure its good. Scott took care of the issues and I'm pleased with it.

I would think the summit would be great for a build considering all the 10/22 accessories are available for use. They are making stainless and aluminum now depending on your tastes. I got the carbon fiber and aluminum because I wanted it for a suppressor host to hunt with but if you're shooting strictly off the bench you may want the weight of stainless. Best of luck in your build I'm sure you will enjoy it

 

Pilgrimwoman, the stock on my Summit is one I built. It is similar in many ways to an Anschutz stock with some modifications. I made another similar one for a SA 54 Sporter and really like them.

 

I have a PWS Summit with a KIDD barrel. It's a fine reliable firearm that I will never sell. Always hits where I aim it. The action is smooth and locks tight only requiring one finger. Wanted a Ishmash but I never leave anything along and there's nothing available for the commie. To bad case they are as smooth as silk underwear.

 

I have a PMACA Chassis that I picked up at a real good price. Been looking at a Summit action for awhile. Sent a email to PMACA to see if a Summit action will fit.
There answer..."Do not know, have not seen that in a build. Regards Dwayne"

It sort of blew my bubble not getting a "yes or no" from a manufacture.

 

I would think it would as long as a 10/22 will it has same foot print the ones I have been around have a magpul 1022 stock

 

Same footprint. It'll fit , no problem.

 

Sent a Email to Volquartsen late yesterday, just received a answer from Scott.....

"Yes the Summit platform should mimic that of the 10/22 and I don’t see anywhere on the picture of that chassis that our Summit would be a problem".