[Vincent]

Well I believe it is safe, but I am disappointed in the accuracy it is giving me. I think the bolt could benefit from a bit more weight or maybe I need to install that spring loaded detent, like I had thought about doing!!! My relined Mossberg bolt action is taking care of my 17 HM2 needs(aka, wants) for the time being!!!
Oops, am I allowed to say Mossberg on this forum???:hide:
Have I told you that I have been having thoughts of a Hi-Wall or Lo-Wall in 17HM2 made from scratch of course!!! Nah, better leave that daydream alone!!!
Bet you didn't expect to find me here, did you Vincent!!!

On a FAVORITE note... watching finish dry IS NOT very exciting!!! But the pores in the wood are starting to fill!!! Time to bust out the "Rottenstone"!!!

God Bless, Frank.

Frank I did not even know where "here" was! When I push the "New Posts" I rarely check to see what forum it is in. I have never been much for all the sub forums. I figure we are all in this together and they lead to a lot of "us-ing and them-ing"

Being somewhat of a anarchist just this week I suggested to ADMIN we go with:

Rimfire Rifles

Rimfire Handguns

Community Forum

I know, I know, it would never work now but I wonder if that genie had never been let out of the bottle if it would not be better Just seems like these days people are requesting forums for very tiny sections of interest.

As for your "from scratch" Hi-Wall the part that would bother me would be not having one. Do you have Frank de Haas' book of "Single Shot Rifles and Actions". de Haas used to sell drawings for a couple of his actions that if used for rimfire could be built with a drill press and a pile of files. His son may still sell them. He designed the de Haas/Miller action that had a following.

They are officially out of business but I hear the owners will still build one now and then if asked nicely but there used to be a little company called Falling Block Works. They made a small, medium and large Hi-Wall styled actions. Always wanted a 22 Hornet or 218 Bee or rimfire built on their beautiful small action.

To me the falling block is the essence of beauty and grace and if rifle design had stopped there we would be no worse off!! As a young man I had the privilege of shooting almost all of the English and European sporting designs and have been smitten ever since.:bthumb:

 

[tfrank]

You just had to...

Frank I did not even know where "here" was! When I push the "New Posts" I rarely check to see what forum it is in. I have never been much for all the sub forums. I figure we are all in this together and they lead to a lot of "us-ing and them-ing"

Being somewhat of a anarchist just this week I suggested to ADMIN we go with:

Rimfire Rifles

Rimfire Handguns

Community Forum

I know, I know, it would never work now but I wonder if that genie had never been let out of the bottle if it would not be better Just seems like these days people are requesting forums for very tiny sections of interest.

As for your "from scratch" Hi-Wall the part that would bother me would be not having one. Do you have Frank de Haas' book of "Single Shot Rifles and Actions". de Haas used to sell drawings for a couple of his actions that if used for rimfire could be built with a drill press and a pile of files. His son may still sell them. He designed the de Haas/Miller action that had a following.

They are officially out of business but I hear the owners will still build one now and then if asked nicely but there used to be a little company called Falling Block Works. They made a small, medium and large Hi-Wall styled actions. Always wanted a 22 Hornet or 218 Bee or rimfire built on their beautiful small action.

To me the falling block is the essence of beauty and grace and if rifle design had stopped there we would be no worse off!! As a young man I had the privilege of shooting almost all of the English and European sporting designs and have been smitten ever since.:bthumb:

You just had to mention Mr. DeHass didn't you??? I haven't bought the book of plans but I found several of his books and have bookmarked them. What am I doing??? I have about a dozen different "in progress" rifle projects and you are encouraging me to start another??? No wonder it takes me years to finish a project!!! Well I have to finish a few of the "in progress" ones before I start on another "new" project, but I may have to buy a book or two!!!

Got another coat of finish drying on the Favorite!!!:bthumb: Oh and lots of wiring and framing to do down in the basement!!!
God Bless, Frank.

 

[Zoltron.22]

shes moving along nice , is the brass still has marks on it after a shot ? im allowed 2 max projects here lol , thats what you get when wifeys a business major :bthumb: its like hidding money from the Irs lol

 

[tfrank]

I'm not sure...

shes moving along nice , is the brass still has marks on it after a shot ? im allowed 2 max projects here lol , thats what you get when wifeys a business major :bthumb: its like hidding money from the Irs lol

I'm not sure of what you are asking???
This is from post #81...

Picture #6 shows the three fired cases. The imprint of the extractor is clearly visible on each case and shows that the extractor still protrudes into the chamber a bit more than it should and its fit is a bit lopsided!!! A small half round needle file ought to be able to take care of that!!!

Post #61 on page 5 and post #81 on page 6 show the only shell cases that I have posted pics of relative to this rifle. The shells in post #61 were fired when there was no extractor cut, but the shells in post #81 show the imprint of the extractor since it is protruding just a "frog hair" into the chamber. If that is what you are refering to.. yes that condition still exists as I removed most of the guts from the action when I got the inletting done and I was in the process of matching the wood and metal surfaces. I will need to reassemble the action to double check no interference with moving parts and to final fit the extractor. Hope your question is answered!!!
God Bless, Frank.

 

[gmd1950]

Helps if they speak English doesn't it frank....

 

[tfrank]

Well I decided...

Well, I decided to drill the forearm for its hold-down screws!!! Then AFTER I had drilled both holes, I decided that I would change the location of the rear one so that I could just use the original threaded hole in the barrel instead of having to drill and tap a second hole on the bottom of the barrel. You would have thought that I would have learned by now!!! Took three tries on getting a decent match on the teeny wood plug, but I got it to where I was ok with it!!!
The steps!!! Locations marked... Front hole drilled... Rear hole drilled... And then the 2nd rear hole drilled!!! And one of the repair plugs, this one was too light.

Plug #3 was good enough that I decided it was going to stay!!! I was not going to make a 4th plug. I already managed to file several grooves in my thumb.

How does the saying go??? "Two steps forward, one step back". Well at least there is a net forward progress!!!
God Bless, Frank.

 

[Vincent]

Maybe you should have put a shiny brass plug in so people would think it was an inlay and they would have ooohed and aaahed.

Either that or stick one of the Marlin black white "Targets" that go in their stocks. THAT would have confused some people.!:bthumb:

 

[blkwollf]

:bthumb: Frank,.. U are a true Craftsman at Heart !!! :bthumb:

 

[pump .22s]

You know...I am beginning to think that in your subconscious mind you enjoy challenges so much that you do these things to keep a good supply of challenges in hand.

I really like what you are doing and the way you are doing it. :bthumb:

 

[tfrank]

Now that reminds me...

You know...I am beginning to think that in your subconscious mind you enjoy challenges so much that you do these things to keep a good supply of challenges in hand.

I really like what you are doing and the way you are doing it. :bthumb:

Now that reminds me of a little plaque that an uncle of mine had...
It was titled Tact... "The ability to tell someone to go to heck and have them be happy to be on their way"
Are you trying to tell me that I mess up with FINESSE??? Well in that case... Thank you!!! Thank you very much!!!
On a Favorite note I got the back of the stock cut and my LOP is 13 1/2" to 14" depending on what type of butt plate I decide to use!!!
God Bless, Frank.

 

[pump .22s]

Naw...I was just saying that you have a knack for making sure you stay busy...and challenged.

And I love your ability to adjust on the fly as things demand. Sign of a good craftsman. :bthumb:

 

[Old Hickory]

Naw...I was just saying that you have a knack for making sure you stay busy...and challenged. And I love your ability to adjust on the fly as things demand. Sign of a good craftsman. :bthumb:

:t Yeah on that! To see that well matched plug, most would have to be looking for it. Nice plug job, Frank! And as for drilling holes, ANYONE that has drilled a large number of holes has messed up at least once in a while. I drill a lot of holes, given my knife work. Inlays can do wonders.

I have a 3/8" plug cutter that works great for mammoth ivory inlays. Clients consider it surprise eye candy on their knife handles.

 

[tfrank]

:t Yeah on that! To see that well matched plug, most would have to be looking for it. Nice plug job, Frank! And as for drilling holes, ANYONE that has drilled a large number of holes has messed up at least once in a while. I drill a lot of holes, given my knife work. Inlays can do wonders.

I have a 3/8" plug cutter that works great for mammoth ivory inlays. Clients consider it surprise eye candy on their knife handles.

I was reading a thread by a retired gunsmith, and one of his comments regarding stock work in particular was "it's not how good you are, but it is how good you are at hiding your mistakes"!!! This stock and to a slightly lesser degree the metal parts, have more than their share of mistakes!!! It's just that so far, I have been able to hide them pretty well!!!
Well, that extra barrel that I plan on relining to .22 LR showed up, and it is in better shape that the 17HM2 relined barrel. Oh well, that will just have to wait until I get this rifle up and running before I do anything with the 2nd barrel.
Made some more progress on the stock!!! I tried to locate a buttplate that I could modify, but was unable to find anything that I liked, that would fit the heavier profile of the new stock, so I took a piece of 1/4" thick aluminum stock and whittled out my own... so to speak!!!
The 2 pieces of 2x8 was cut on the band saw and that is how I got the basic curve of the buttplate... along with a 6 pound sledge hammer!!! Then a lot of smaller whacks with a 16 oz hammer to fine tune the curve of the buttplate. The large piece of walnut on the right is what I cut off the first time. Got the buttplate fitted but didn't like the angle relative to the stock lines, so I cut off the smaller piece on the left and fitted the buttplate for a second time!!! And of course I had to plug the 2 original screw holes, I used 1/4" oak dowel since it will be under the buttplate and I doubt that very many people will ever see it!!!

So, this is what the stock with the buttplate looks like now!!! I'm not sure how I will finish the buttplate but I don't think I will leave it plain. Thinking about getting a checkering file, but those things are not cheap, but I know I will have uses for it elsewhere!!!

Well, that is enough for now, gotta get on the "honey do's" for want of a better term!!!
God Bless, Frank.

 

[gmd1950]

Cool, that should look great.:t

 

[tfrank]

Sorry...

Sorry no pictures??? But I have managed a bit of work on it. After I fitted the buttplate I had to redo the inletting for the receiver since I cut off about 1/8th of an inch from the front of the stock. Got the receiver to fit again and now I'm just watching Tung oil dry. Didn't like the way the stock was turning out... it seemed to be getting too dark so I switched finishes back to my old standby!!! Tung Oil!!!
I will try to get the barrel drilled for the scope blocks so that I can get started figuringing out what kind of scope I want to use!!! At this point I have no idea what scope blocks I will need or what may work with modifacations???
God Bless, Frank.

 

[SARGE]

Keep on it Frank.

 

[Vincent]

Hey Frank think about this

 

[tfrank]

So...

So what is this a picture of???
If the breech block slides straight down like a Hi or Lo-Wall I like it!!! If the breech block pivots down, I'll pass.
God Bless, Frank.

 

[Vincent]

Falling Block Works "J" good for 22 Hornet up to about .357 or so. 64,000 psi 3/4" shank

I set mucho info in PM:bthumb:

 

[Rem-fire57]

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