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SR 22 vs Walther p22

8K views 51 replies 30 participants last post by  Terry G  
#1 ·
Anyone have advice on which they think is better. I'm leaning more towards the SR22.
 
#3 ·
I don't have, or have fired, a SR22, but I do have a Walther P22 and PPQ22 as well as a S&W M&P22 Compact.

What do you intend to do with the pistol?

Do you like a small-framed pistol? The P22 and M&P are pretty small. Not sure about the SR, but the PPQ22 is full-sized like the PPQ9.

The P22 can be found just over $200 at times, if cost is a consideration.

P22s have improved over the years, and the latest version, the P22Q, is generally less finicky and overall better than the original version.
 
#4 ·
Mostly want for plinking/target. I have a Sig P226 legion and it's very costly and heavy to just go have fun with. From what I've watched the SR is a tad bit smaller then the P22. They are very similar in design.( considering that everyone says Ruger copied the design from Walther.) If that's the case then I think Ruger made it a little better. For me anyways. ;-)
 
#7 · (Edited)
The one you want is the PPQ 22. That one is made in-house at Walter, has steel reinforcements any place there will be wear. Has a trigger that is almost as good as the beyond excellent PPQ series centerfire pistols.
The P22 is made out of house not by Walther. They may have corrected the issues with it but for a long time it was plagued with all sorts of problems. There's also a p22q which I believe is made out of house but is a knockoff of the PPQ 22.
The PPQ 22 is not expensive, and I certainly would get one of those over the Ruger because of the steel reinforcement at the breech face, slide lock area and other areas. Very well thought out German engineering.
 
#8 ·
The one you want is the PPQ 22. That one is made in-house at Walter, has steel reinforcements any place there will be where. Has a trigger that is almost as good as the beyond excellent PPQ series centerfire pistols.
The P22 is made out of house not by Walther. They may have corrected the issues with it but for a long time it was plagued with all sorts of problems. There's also a p22q which I believe is made out of house but is a knockoff of the PPQ 22.
The PPQ 22 is not expensive, and I certainly would get one of those over the Ruger because of the steel reinforcement at the breech face, slide lock area and other areas. Very well thought out German engineering.
The PPQ22 is probably my favorite of all my .22LR plinker pistols - but it's made by Umarex (in Germany) - just like the P22.

It does have higher quality components, and is a full size pistol unlike the P22.

I have the standard 4" and just purchased this PPQ22 5" Target model -
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The 5" Target model has been on sale for a while now at CDNN. I bought mine for $279, but they went down to $259 not long after.

That happens every time I jump on a sale. Same thing happened when I bought my P22. A week later it was on sale for $20 less...
 
#9 · (Edited)
I dunno, Walther USA told me about 3 years ago that the PPQ22 was made by Walther. Could be components are made by Umarex ( I wasn't gonna mention the name of the outsource, but the cat's outta the bag).

Honestly, I have no clue other than that experience. I was calling about my PPQ45 at the time, and wanted the upgraded recoil spring and guide, which was a free upgrade.

Best bet: Contact WALTHER

479-242-8500 EXT 7
customerservice@waltherarms.com
Customer Support
 
#16 ·
I dunno, Walther USA told me about 3 years ago that the PPQ22 was made by Walther. Could be components are made by Umarex ( I wasn't gonna mention the name of the outsource, but the cat's outta the bag).

Honestly, I have no clue other than that experience. I was calling about my PPQ45 at the time, and wanted the upgraded recoil spring and guide, which was a free upgrade.

Best bet: Contact WALTHER

479-242-8500 EXT 7
customerservice@waltherarms.com
Customer Support
It says "Walther", but...

There has been plenty of debate about that on the Walther forum, but I'm confident that the PPQ22 is a Umarex product - just like the P22.

The proof marks suggest the same, as the PPQ22 and the P22 both have the same proof (3 crowns in a shield), but firearms produced at the Walther plant in Ulm have a different proof (antler).

Either way, I still like the PPQ22 a lot.
 
#12 ·
Walther P22 is junk. Umarex pot metal junk. The slides fail on them so often the Arkansas CS has a preprinted invoice they will send and you fill it out send back with slide and they promptly send a new slide assembly complete and new spring too. The Ruger is much better made. Far as accuracy they are about the same.
 
#15 · (Edited)
SR22: Brick upon brick never malfunctioning with 3 grandkids. Accurate, easy to decock, Ruger quality.

VERSUS

German Umarex junk, longer barreled P22, that self destructed in the first 100 rounds firing when not quite in battery. Blew away the extractor, split the plastic, and was generally quite a rude experience.

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Firing out of battery is about the worst thing a gun can do. NOT something I would ever put in a kids hand again
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Answer above is for your question, but free advice is buy a Glock 44.
 
#17 ·
SR22: Brick upon brick never malfunctioning with 3 grandkids. Accurate, easy to decock, Ruger quality.

German Umarex junk that self destructed in the first 100 rounds firing when not quite in battery. Blew away the extractor, split the plastic, and was generally quite a rude experience.

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Firing out of battery is about the worst thing a gun can do.

Answer above is for your question, but free advice is buy a Glock 44.
Was that a P22? I have never had that happen with any of my pistols - Umarex or otherwise. Walther will repair or replace any damaged pistol no-charge - but ya - that's not good.

The issue with a Glock .22 is the grip angle. The Glock 44s have had their share of issues as well.

If you have only Glocks, then fine, but if not, the difference in grip angle is going to mess with your natural point of aim.
 
#19 · (Edited)
Ran across this the other day, currently selling for $399 -

GRAND POWER K22 X-TRIM MK12

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Made in Slovakia. Plenty of positive reviews from what I've seen. They also have a basic model, without the skeletonized slide and target sights, for less.

EDIT: I bought one.
 
#21 ·
I have had hundreds of women in my classes over the years. Every time I bring this out several will immediately fall in love with it. It is light weight, easy to rack, front sight is highly visible, and the gun is accurate.
It is a Walther PPQ 22. It also has the same operational controls and methods of the PPQ2 9mm. This makes it really great as only one manual of arms is needed to operate both.
I have seen some do not like it on here, and that is certainly their right, but I have no better gun in my collection to place in the hands of the beginner. The P22 is very similar, and I also have good feelings toward that.
Hope this helps
 
#23 · (Edited)
I bought one of the fairly early P22 pistols and never has any trouble with it. I finally sold it to one of my grandsons that was having a fit because he could not find one for sale to shut him up. He has had no trouble either and I would know as he always comes to me with with a gun that doesn't do what it supposed too'

After a time I found I missed it and bought an SR22 as they were available. Never had a problem with it either but don't expect it to shoot standard velocity ammo. I don't know if the P22 will as I never tried it. The Ruger safety is weird I will admit but I kind of like it's decocking ability and it's only a range plinker so I don't mind the upside down safety.

In hand they feel the same. The P22 has a weird mag release while the PT 22 has a weird safety. It's your choice which you would rather deal with. If I was in the market I would be happy with either although I would give a very slight edge to the Ruger.

Edited to add: Either is ideal to teach a kid to shoot a handgun because of their small size and low weight. Load one round so its a single shot and work forward from that as the kid proves they are mature enough to to follow safety rules.

While I am at it another option in the same size range is the new model Walther PPK/s 22. It is not the unpleasant beast the real steel one in centerfire is. My wife has owned one for several years and it has not had a problem. It's like comparing apples as each is about the same.
 
#25 ·
Try the Taurus TX22. I have three of them and they are great. I also own two SR22s, one P22, one P17, one mark II, the Sig P322 and a couple of Phoenix HP22s (nice but too many safeties). Of all of them the Mark II is my oldest and is a dream to shoot, my current favorite is the Sig with a red dot on it. My wife loves the SR22
 
#27 ·
Two TX22's, no trouble with either. They work well with a suppressor and CCI Suppressor ammunition. Sig P322 had to go back due to light primer strikes. Sig replaced the hammer spring and problems since. I have had trouble with the 25 round Sig magazine, none with the 20 rounder. SR22 just works. M&P Compact, same thing. .22 Handgun junkie? Yes I am.
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#32 ·
I don’t think I have ever even held the Walther. I have had the Ruger for several years. It’s the handiest 22 pistol I have found. I don’t care for the magazine disconnect or the way the trigger floats on safety but the gun is double/single action carrying it with the safety off is no different than carrying a double action revolver
 
#34 ·
The SR22 is a great gun. Even though the manual says you can, DO NOT dry fire. The roll pin that holds in the breech block doubles as the firing pin stop. Enough hits and it fails resulting in pinging the breech or broken firing pin. Ruger took care of mine even though it was 5 yo, no charge. Love Ruger CS. When returned, I shot a box of Winchester 555 WB without a single hitch. Not my choice of ammo but I had it on hand. The SR22 is an accurate handgun even with that stuff. Loves MiniMags.
p.s. It's not a safety, it's a decocker
 
#35 ·
I’ve had an SR22 for several years. It’s a good gun. I shot a P22Q for the first time this last week and it was really good too, I was impressed with it. Looking at prices the P22 can be bought in the mid $200 range whereas the SR22 goes for over $400. If I was buying today I’d definitely go with the P22 based on the price. IMO based on my limited experience the Ruger isn’t a better gun. I might have to pick up a P22 anyway because it was so good and inexpensive.