I bought my wife a Model 64 TR-SR (threaded/fluted barrel, Tacticool stock), and I have been shooting it on occasion while she isn't able to.

After changing the mag release and charging handle to those made by DIP, I can say I am quite pleased with it. More than accurate for my needs with that rifle, and far more accurate than my wife's minute-of-can requirements.

If your friend wants a rifle that has a million aftermarket parts available to the point that the only original factory delivered part is the rear action screw, this isn't the rifle. There's another one out there that fits that description.

It is a very good rifle, and for the reason I bought it (wife wants to plink, doesn't want to mess with bolt after each shot) it is perfect.

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Model 64 Upgrades: http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=528839

DIP: http://www.diproductsinc.com/Products.aspx?CAT=3602

 

I bought "the other one" and regret doing so. Messing with the bolt release/picking with a finger to get the mag to drop (inconsistent) both become major annoyances. Although it does shoot well enough. The gurus on the "other" forum will say "suck it up princess" these things are all fixable. Yes, if you are mechanically minded and want to do so - or if you are wanting to spend endless dollars in doing upgrades. My point is - one should be able to get a decently functioning rifle that shoots right out of the box without having to either pay the price or do/get done simple things like a bolt release, mag release etc. If you are into spending a few more dollars, CZ now has a semi-auto as well.

 

Thanks guys, told him about the "other" rifle---didn't know CZ was marketing one, maybe should look at that!! Sounds like the 64 is dependable, that might be enough to satisfy his needs!

 

Not to be too nosy, but what does your friend want to do (what kind of shooting?) and why does he or she want a semi?

I bought one Mark II shortly after getting my wife her Model 64, and darnit, I can't stop, especially after finding the Apachee Trigger for them. They are inexpensive enough that one can virtually set up different rifles for different shooting styles and positions. (Local FFL laughed when he asked me "Another Mark II??" And I replied, "Yes, this one will be set up for offhand shooting.") I was half kidding, but the same holds true for the Model 64s, there are several flavors to choose from...

 

He sees to like the "semi's" also has a couple teenagers who like to shoot---like the clip feed models---has an older 10-22 and has the same issues as the rest of us with the mag release and the hold open!! Think he's looking for something different! And the price looks attractive on the 64's:bthumb:

 

Savage 64, the "other" Model 60.

 

i luv my 64 -trr , hopefully some new parts come out before i die or get $$ make my own , wish my uncle didnt sell his machine shop

 

I own a savage 64G, its my first rifle so cant really compare it to anything else. I have a shot a 9mm berretta but that's quite different lol. I like it, when I decided on it I really didn't care about much aftermarket support but now that I am getting more into I really would like more options, not to spend a crap load and make it all crazy, but it would be nice to have some options such has high cap mags (not that they are legal where I live). from what I've experienced with it so far it seems fairly accurate. I've made a custom extended bolt handle and possibly going to make a extended mag release or just purchase one from DIP. I think with just those two mods you should be set. one thing I was say though is from what I've read from other sources and my own experience is that the mags do not like hollow points at all. Its a real PITA, I've had 5 jams out of a 10rd mag, I have filed it down a bit and seems to help but it is frustrating.....oh yes also maybe its because I am new to the whole thing but does anyone else cut up there thumbs loading up the mags lol.:bonk:

 

My first rimfire was a Savage 64. It was very reliable action wise. My model would make about 6" groups which didn't impress me much. It had a wobbly trigger that moved left to right about an inch and and really light at only 1lb or so. You could shoot really fast. I gave away in frustration after being unable to make it group. Considering the positive reputation of other Savage firearms I'd say my experience wasn't normal.

 

So your factory 64 shot 6in groups with your 1lb factory trigger ? ..say it 3x time... if it was new shoulda called factory ....
did you buy it used? or happened to drive your truck over it lol

 

64 is a great gun, simple reliable, and all steel. the stainless has fiber optic sights if you like them. barrel removes for cleaning. and its priced right.

 

I hear there's also a very nice trigger spring kit available for them. In fact, the trigger on my wife's TR-SR has it. :bthumb:

 

I'll chime in here too. I love mine. Accurate, reliable, fun. The other guys are right, options for aftermarket parts are very limited.

I like mine better than the 60 or the 10/22. Those are lots of fun too.

 

when the starts alight and my investment pays out ......im really looking at starting after market parts for 64's would need to test the market so far as i know there only few things 4 it -springs,longer charge handle,mag release thats it i believe........

 

EGW & DIP make mounts for it.

 

So the general opinion of this DIP rail is positive?

64 Picatinny Rail
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=923476&CAT=3602

And here are some examples of 50 yard groups with my 64F (cci sv) with a cheap 4x scope.

All-in-all I am pretty happy with it. Just keep it clean. I did have some major feeding problems after feeding it the last of my crappy ammo (Remington sub-sonics, thunderbolts and old golden bullets).

 

Zoltron, great idea. What really needs to happen is for someone to start manufacturing aftermarket barrels for this rifle. It swaps out just as easily as the 10/22 barrels, and the rifle is cheaper. To me, this is a better platform for customizing than a 10/22. The complete lack of barrel options pretty much rules that out though.

I'd be willing to bet that if someone started producing aftermarket barrels for the 64, the variety of aftermarket products for this rifle would increase dramatically.

 

Yes!

And then someone would start making aftermarket magazines, then someone would start making aftermarket receivers, and someone else would supply aftermarket stocks, too... And after easily swapping out all of them, one would have George Washington's Model 64, but boy would it be a fine shooting Savage Model 64...

But seriously, an aftermarket barrel (or two) would easily be on my list. That would elevate the ol' plinker just enough. :bthumb:

 

It's definitely easy to go crazy on the aftermarket stuff. In general I don't like jazzing up a rifle too much. If you want a super-duper rifle, then just buy one to start with. But this seems like such an easy rifle to improve through a barrel swap, that I don't understand why there aren't any options. I don't think it would take much for a machinist who knows what he is doing to work a barrel blank into a useable option.

Sights are another option. A scope is the obvious solution to improving sight picture, but I like the idea of having a receiver mounted peep sight. Shouldn't be hard to design something like that, especially for the 64 that has a flat sided receiver, or the grooved top. If you look at the rascal's peep sight, it is pretty basic, but does everything it has to do. Something like that would increase the sight radius by several inches, and shouldn't be hard to design. I wish I had the machinery and know how to make something like that.

 

I have no clue why no company, even tried to put out say few barrels out for 64 ...from say green mountain even ...just have them cut some to fit the 64 receiver (unless the barrels min runs are crazy #s) not everyone likes 20in barrels etc or say you got a sport barrel just wanna trow something else on there like a 18in fluted .........

we will see hopefully 2014 will be a year , for prototypes .....as i said my uncle is out of the machine shop game but ill check if his buddy still does prototypes for the US military that was when i moved few yrs back......got to see so cool toys ( ps-my uncle worked& built some of the terminator 1&2 prop guns - and trust me very quickly there where not prop anymore ....lol... but better run )....do you feel lucky ...there nothing like buying 80% receivers Ar/1911 etc and finishing it nicely in a shop environment before your 16th bday LOL

 

I love my 64!!!!

And it only improved greatly after a few thousand rounds.......when I first bought the gun, I experienced quit a few jams....

but I learned .....

-smooth out the magazine and feed ramp with fine sandpaper,
-keep the gun clean after every shooting session (my sessions typically involve 300-500 rounds)
- let the gun break in for 1000-1500 rounds...the trigger really improved and the gun will shoot any type of ammo

I love the fact that it has a steel receiver .....something you don't see in semi 22's. The components inside the gun are simple and well made..compare it to a marlin 60 and you will clearly see the craftsmanship between the two. The wood stock is extremely nice also

I can easily shoot 1 inch groups with bulk ammo at 50 yards if I do my part. I'm sure accuracy would improve if I used match grade ammo,glass bedding, improved the trigger pull weight, But I'm not sure if a better barrel is necessary, I'm sure they are the same barrel blanks used on the mkii and no one complains about those...maybe a better crowning might help.

My only real complaint about this gun is the magazines release absolutely sucks, I wish there was a quick release

Other then that I am surprised this gun is not more or just as popular, as the other two big semi rifles on the market

 

After all I have read and the fact I have a couple of savage Mod 11 Hog Hunters and a couple of FV-Sr 22's I bought a Mod 64 yesterday at Big Five. Got the sale price plus the 10% discount. I love the ugly green stock ,but the muzzle break will be changed out (it is the ugliest break I have ever seen, and the fact that they did not match the barrel dia (.640) to the break is beyond me). I will taper the break to match the barrel dia when I get it !

PS, the barrel is threaded 1/2x20 and there are 1/2x20 to 1/2x28 adapters available, so all is not lost !

I already bought a cotton moss green sling, a new bolt release and new magazine release from DIP.

I will put a Allen butt pouch on it and put a bore snake and a couple of extra mags in there.

I have a Bushnell 4-12x40 Trophy scope that will work fine with this gun I'm sure.

This should make a nice bounce around plinkster, small game gun. I very much like the fact the receiver is steel and not cast.

wll

 

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Thanks for all the great input on the 64---will advise the friend and will most likely get one myself!!:t

 

1/2-20? Must have been threaded by a Chevy mechanic. Is the barrel long enough to cut and rethread properly? If so, I can send you proper 1/2-28 barrel threading diagram.

 

LOL, LOL.

The barrel is 16.125 or so, that includes the threaded section. You would have to re thread, and I don't know if you can do that.

For me, I would go on line to Shooters Depot, and they have a 1/2 x 20 to 1/2 x 28 adapter. I would install that and then go from there, IMHO.

wll

 

I love my Savage 64, but it could use some improvements

1) It could use better magazines and it is something that Savage could easily provide. I don't know if needs a petition or what but as owners we should complain to Savage in a letter or something. They could make a ton selling new magazines and I would be fine with that

2) The magazine really, really, really sucks. Again, something that could easily be fixed if Savage would make a simple change. I saw someone on another forum which machined his own. I have been unable to find someone to work with me in making something that could work.

3) I to would take an after market barrel.

I really believe this could be a better rifle than what Savage has provided us and the design needs an update.

 

1) It could use better magazines

2) The magazine really, really, really sucks.

I have sent several hundred problem-free rounds through four different magazines. Why do yours suck so bad? I'm shooting CCI Mini Mags and RWS, if that makes a difference. (People told me the CCI would jam, but not one has failed to feed or eject)

 

Sorry those magazines aren't working. That is frustrating I bet. I've never had a problem with my magazines. The magazine release is a poor design, but thankfully, DIP has a new solution for that. Just gotta get my hands on one.

The Mark II magazines have a reputation for being finicky, although I've never had any problems with those either.

 

I have about 800 rounds through mine and it just keeps getting better. The trigger is smoothing out a bit, it cycles flawlessly, and it's a fast shooter when you need it.

I'm gonna check out the bolt release knob and mag release products mentioned previously. I wish the mags had a follower knob to depress the follower when loading rounds. I have four mags and they all work flawlessly, it's just hard to load the last couple of rounds.

It would be nice to see barrel options out there, and some larger capacity mags for fellow enthusiasts in other states.