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Savage B Mag blew up

11K views 39 replies 22 participants last post by  danbosch3469  
#1 ·
I just had my savage B mag blow up on me this past Saturday while shooting the hornady Vmax 20gr the back of the cartridge blew out releasing the pressure straight down through my mag and lower receiver blowing the bottom of the gun completely out. Not a pleasant experience. I have only shot maybe 150 rounds total through it and yes I cleaned it. I took the spent casings and boxed the rifle up sent it back to savage hoping to resolve the issue. For me I believe the halfmoon bolt that is open by the extractor is a real concern and prone to case failure here due to excessive pressure. If you have a bolt action look at the mating surface to the cartridge where the extractor is and Observe the spent cartridges if there is any noticeable defect I'd raise concern with the manufacturer. This is a hot hot round and had a very close call this past weekend. Hopefully they can resolve this issue quickly personally I think there needs to be a recall on them and the issue addressed before someone gets seriously hurt.
 
#3 ·
Welcome to RFC new guy. :bthumb:

Sorry about your gun and glad you weren't hurt. :bthumb: That said your case is extremely rare and hopefully Savage will make it up to you.
 
#4 ·
Sounds as if the design of the receiver functioned as intended.
Blast was diverted down, not back into y'er face.
Did you find all the parts of the brass?
It will tell you if it was an out of battery rupture or a weak rim on the brass.
Deformation of the side of the case, above the rim flare, is out of battery.
If the rim itself was blown loose, that's weak brass or overcharged cartridge.
Yeah, been there, dealt with that. :(
 
#5 ·
I sent the brass in and several spent rounds, and as I have read I'm not the only person this has happened to. I love the round and did find all the parts but would love to see an improvement on the bolt. Needless to say early on in this relationship I've already developed trust issues. I believe we have all been down this path, may take some counseling sessions to get through what she has done to me but I'm willing to give her a second chance 😂🤣😂🤣
 
#6 ·
Not trying to start any fuss here as I myself have been studying the 17 cal stuff but from what I read there is a lot of issues with brass QC. This prompted Vudoo to move along without trying to put a model out and I read Volquartsen just left the area with Ruger just before.
I have just read that another guy had a case head blow, set off the round under it and blow out the wood stock side and mag. No injury but lots of damage and questions.
The main thing I'm hearing is brass QC varies enough to cause issue and maybe slam fire if the bolt is ran home hard with a high case head.
I just got here and not sure if any of these stories or issues are true so I wanted to make a post to follow this here.
Let it rain now! :D
 
#7 ·
...Let it rain now! :D
I think everyone wanted the 17WSM to work and I think that in their haste to make a splash Winchester moved too quickly. I see our own Teddy Bear Rat has long tried to make more than a few rifles in 17WSM shoot, with little luck.

I tried to love the 17WSM ammo was cheap and plentiful mine is long gone!
 
#12 ·
But when it works it's a lovely thing, mines back at the Gunsmith for threading but this is a three shot group at 100 yards he shot after bedding my rifle in a Boyd's stock.

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and the rifle...

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If this one blows up I'm going to be one PO'd rascal. :mad:
 
#13 ·
Mine is one of the original skinny barrel models. Groups like a shotgun, nothing good to say about it.

I have a MGM barrel for my Contender that shoots well, but really prefer bolt guns, so don’t shoot it much. Thought about a Ruger, but may have missed the boat on those. Been using my .22 mag and .17 HMRs, which covers the bases pretty well.
 
#15 ·
My Savage B Mag blew up today. Not a pleasant experience. I’m on a prairie dog hunt. Using Winchester ammunition. Gun was purchased 3/25/21. I cleaned the rifle when I received it cleaned it after sighting it in and before I left for the hunt just to make sure it was clean. I shot 150 rounds thought it today started on my forth box when the explosion occurred. Just wondering who I should contact first?
 
#17 ·
My Savage B Mag blew up today. Not a pleasant experience. I'm on a prairie dog hunt. Using Winchester ammunition. Gun was purchased 3/25/21. I cleaned the rifle when I received it cleaned it after sighting it in and before I left for the hunt just to make sure it was clean. I shot 150 rounds thought it today started on my forth box when the explosion occurred. Just wondering who I should contact first?
Twere me both would be contacted post haste.
 
#18 ·
Rob01 quotes me
Originally Posted by Baby Automag
Not trying to start any fuss here as I myself have been studying the 17 cal stuff but from what I read there is a lot of issues with brass QC. This prompted Vudoo to move along without trying to put a model out and I read Volquartsen just left the area with Ruger just before.
Rob01 reply
Vudoo does offer a 17HMR model.

Rob01
My comment was in respect to the 17WSM as that is what the main topic category not just all 17 cal firearms here.
Maybe I should have wrote "Not trying to start any fuss here as I myself have been studying the 17 cal stuff but from what I read there is a lot of issues with brass QC "of the 17WSM". This prompted Vudoo to move along without trying to put a model out "in 17WSM" and I read Volquartsen just left the area with Ruger just before.

But I ASSuME you would have realized this thread was only about the 17WSM, guess I was wrong for thinking people would have read the category title to understand that the threads would be about that topic and not all firearms that go bang. Sorry my fault for not being more concise and clear. :rolleyes:
 
#33 ·
I've had this happen while testing a pistol powder under a 20gr VMAX. Fortunately I saw a video earlier in the week and during testing never load or seat the magazine. My case blew out with 6.5grs of CFEpistol. Burned my arm and imbedded powder in my skin probably a second degree burn. Fun. Nothing like a detonation to wake you up.
 
#34 ·
Wow. Luckily the gun's design sent the overpressure out the bottom rather than back out the bolt like some old rifles used to do. Nobody likes getting singed, but I'll take a blister on my arm over a firing pin in my eye any day.

The only gun "Defect" that would cause this is excessive headspace. The brief look at the blown cartridge sure looks like bad brass rather than the characteristic ballooned case head from excess headspace. Possibly the case was not annealed or was drawn too thin and it weakened in the rim, allowing the rim to rupture while firing. Could also be that Winchester is loading them on the hot side to meet published velocity numbers.

This isn't the forst time 17 caliber cartridges had difficulties with cases holding up, but it is particularly nasty compared to the usual split case necks and gas cutting from cracked rims.