Quick update on the rifle.
It is settling in and the more I shoot it the better it shoots. It has a distinct preference for standard velocity ammo such a cci and eley. Also as I can't afford to spend more money on my hobby at the moment I tweaked the stock a bit to make it more comfortable by adding a homemade cheek riser, made from a strong piece of lawnmower grass deflector, and I epoxied a one pound lead ingot inside the buttstock to make it balance properly. Finished it off with a khaki paint job and I can live with it until I can afford to purchase the boyds.

10 rounds each at 50m, and I called the flyer... My finger was cold and I pulled it .
You can see how much it prefers the standard over the blazer.

50 rounds at 50m shot at a pretty fast pace.

I usually dont bother to measure my groups, but I figured rather than referring to the thumbtack again... Minus the bullet diameter this 9 shot group is a hair under 1/2" at 50m. Thats sub MOA baby... If you can ignore the 10th shot flyer that i knew i pulled. Not a reflection of the gun, but the cold shooter lol!

Considering what it does with the peep sights, I'm curious to see what it could do with a good scope!

 

Congrats on the rifle and good review. I look forward to seeing more from you and your rifle as you get to know one another. :bthumb: I like the stock changes and am sure it works better for you that way. I also had to do a little to the comb area on mine to raise it up a little for my scope.

 

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Really glad to hear you got such a good rifle.

The CCI Standard Velocity shoots pretty good in most Savages, try some Wolf MT or SV, in most, they shoot even tighter groups. It's really nice it does so well with the CCI though, cheap shooting.
You will find the more it breaks in, the better it will shoot.

If the mount for the front sight just a screw on ?
I put peep sights on my BRJ and have the clamp on adapter, I'd rather have the dovetail, even if it meant D&T.

I ended up using a Williams rear sight becuse I had one laying around and the quality is not quite s good as the Lyman, but they work excellent, I have zero complaints about mine.

I'd really like to get that clamp off of mine for the front sight, I think it's hurting the harmonics of the barrel.

It does look like you could put a Lyman 17A on the front if you wanted to, just measure the height.

You shot some excellent groups, especially for a rifle not yet broken in, Congrats and enjoy. I kinda figured it would be far better with the comb piece, I never could figure out why they came with such a low comb.

My best, John K

 

Really glad to hear you got such a good rifle.

The CCI Standard Velocity shoots pretty good in most Savages, try some Wolf MT or SV, in most, they shoot even tighter groups. It's really nice it does so well with the CCI though, cheap shooting.
You will find the more it breaks in, the better it will shoot.

If the mount for the front sight just a screw on ?
I put peep sights on my BRJ and have the clamp on adapter, I'd rather have the dovetail, even if it meant D&T.

I ended up using a Williams rear sight becuse I had one laying around and the quality is not quite s good as the Lyman, but they work excellent, I have zero complaints about mine.

I'd really like to get that clamp off of mine for the front sight, I think it's hurting the harmonics of the barrel.

It does look like you could put a Lyman 17A on the front if you wanted to, just measure the height.

You shot some excellent groups, especially for a rifle not yet broken in, Congrats and enjoy. I kinda figured it would be far better with the comb piece, I never could figure out why they came with such a low comb.

My best, John K

Thanks, i wish i could find any target grade ammo where i live. Im a 2hr drive from the nearest dealer. Nice Rifle you have there! Is that the stock it came with from factory? Or is that aftermarket boyds?

The front sight base is actually dovetailed into the barrel. I had thought about using a lyman 17A, I will probably go that route down the road. For now the williams works just fine!

I see what you mean about the barrel clamp... You could probably cut a dovetail in that barrel if you were really carefull about it. I've done it to a couple rifles with a triangle safety file and needle files. You just have to prep, prep, and prep some more. When you think its perfect, double check again and then start cutting. Check fit, cut, check fit, cut, check fit, cut etc... till it goes in.

As for the cheap stock... I heard they only cost savage $11 each, and you are paying 100% for the barreled action, they throw in the bad stock just so they can sell it as a complete rifle. Thats why the rest of the gun is of such high quality.

 

Very good review and great shooting!

 

Thanks Mikeystew, I appreciate the co-operation.:bthumb:

 

You will not find the Wolf/SV ammo at most stores. I order mine from Champion Shooters Supply, they have most of the good ammo there at decent prices, the Wolf is $4.90 a box, the carry the CCI also.
They have a great shooting hat also cheap.
The shipping like most places runs a little high, I bought a brick and a half and it was $15.00, so try to put in a larger order if you can. They offer a lot of high end precision shooting supplies, good people to do business with.
Other places are not much better though.

I could cut a dovetail at a friends shop very easily, but didn't want a dovetail. Looking at the picture again, I forgot the dovetail adapter just screws to the adapter, so maybe I'll just do it that way and D&T. Maybe I'll throw that adapter on the mill and remove some weight from it. It's aluminum, but I could still lighten it. I kept the screws just tight enough to hold it on so it would not move, so I doubt I'm putting the squeeze on the barrel.

You may want to order the heavy bottom metal from DIP, a sponsor here and their one piece scope mount is the best going. That bottom metal will allow you to really adjust the torque on the action and hold it, the stock plate tends to bend, about the same quality as the stock. You can transfer the heavy bottom metal to another aftermarket stock also.

If it ever warms up, I want to try it some more before doing anything, it got cold before I had a chance to shoot it much and right now we are getting dumped on big time by snow.

My Best, John K

 

Thanks for the info about DIP, i'll see if they ship to Canada. Sadly most good suppliers do not. The ammo im sure i could find mail order though... I'll give that a try sometime. Im a fairly informal target shooter though and for now the CCI standard is doing good enough for me... and i have a few bricks laying around. I shot a 298/300 at the 50m opensight benchrest match today at my club with it!

Cheers,
Mike

Ps, love the Moose!

 

Your rifle looks pretty OK with that home made cheek riser. That's some good shooting!

 

Thanks for the write up MikeyStew. I should be receiving my Savage MKII FVT from the gun dealer this week and look forward to shooting it. I like your idea for a cheek riser to get a good stock weld.

 

DIP who is one of the sponsors here sells a very nice cheek piece. I think they are back ordered now, you may want to find out when they will be in, they look and work excellent.

Just be sure to have the piece all the way down against the stock and drill your holes at the very top, this will allow for all the lift of the cheak piece you may want.

I think you will enjoy the rifle. Doing some stiffening of the forend helps, there is a thread on this.
The Peep sights are really fun to shoot. I used to just shoot scopes, I now enjoy the peep sights much more and they are very accurate with some practice.

The Merit #3 adjustable aperture rear aperture I have on mine can be bought from Champion Shooters supply, they are great, especially in different light conditions, they also come with a rubber ring that fits around the sight to help keeep light from bothering you when you are shooting.
The Champion catalog is just $1.00 and has a lot of sighting options, well worth getting, good ammo prices also on match ammo.
www.championshooters.com

My Best, John K

 

I finally picked up my Savage MKII FVT from the gun shop. I fired 80 rounds through it so far. With the rear sight elevation bottomed out, the shots were hitting high at 50 yards. I noticed that the action screws were a little loose. I also noticed that the screws holding the rear peep sight mount to the side of the receiver were loose as well. I had to move the front sight base to the right to zero the windage and keep the rear sight adjustment centered. After I tightened up the action screws, the point of impact dropped about 2" at 50 yards.

Once I got the rifle sighted in I fired one 5 shot group with CCI Blazer 40g and one 5 shot group with Wolf Match Target at 50 yards. The CCI Blazer group printed a 3/4" group with a called low flier and the Wolf Match Target printed a 3/8" wide x 3/8" high group. The groups were fired from the prone position with my left hand resting on top of a sand bag. I was getting a little too cold to keep shooting, so I called it a day.

I believe the rifle has a lot of potential. The accuracy is on par with any other 22 rimfire I have fired to date. CCI Blazer will be good enough to practice offhand and Wolf Match Target should be good enough to shoot at matches.

Sorry, I can't post pictures.

 

Looks like you got a good rifle.

The one thing I have found is that the Wolf shoots quite a bit larger groups when the temps are cold. So once things warm up, your groups should get better. Also, after 500+ rounds, your rifle will shoot even better. I'm sometimes surprised more people don't shoot peep sights than do. We have some excellent peep sight shooters on the site.

I absolutly have fell in love with peep sights. They offer more challange than a scope, you can shoot some very small groups with them with practice.
I have a bunch that are just one small hole at 25 yds, I tend to have my groups open a little at 50, but that is just a matter of practice on my part.
I just started shooting the peeps last summer, and our summers are short, winters long

I'd like to have younger eyes also, but that's just something you adapt to and adjustable rear apertures help a lot also. I have found that getting the right combination of sights on the rifle can make a decent difference and is well worth spending few $$$ on to get the set up that is right for you and your eyes.
Enjoy, Congrats, keep us up to date on how things are going.

Try the CCI Standard Velocity and Automatch for lower priced practice ammo also, I have found both shoot better than the Blazer. Champion shooters sells the CCI SV in 50 rnd boxes cheaper than buying it in the plastic boxes of 100, it saves enough to be worth buying it in boxes of 50.

I'm chomping at the bit waiting for warmer weather !

My Best, John K

 

I have a buddy that is looking at this gun, he's also a peep sight fanatic using them at my longrange matches. He's wondering if the Williams sight has enough travel to get to 200 yards.

We are using Anschutz, Redfields, Parker Hales and some odd ones on the Russian guns and can dial well out past 200 yards. Neither of us have a gun with Williams on them and don't know the elevation travel.

Thought maybe someone on here has tried it out farther.

Thanks

Topstrap

 

I have a buddy that is looking at this gun, he's also a peep sight fanatic using them at my longrange matches. He's wondering if the Williams sight has enough travel to get to 200 yards.

We are using Anschutz, Redfields, Parker Hales and some odd ones on the Russian guns and can dial well out past 200 yards. Neither of us have a gun with Williams on them and don't know the elevation travel.

Thought maybe someone on here has tried it out farther.

Thanks

Topstrap

I've got one of these that I used to use for 200 yard matches but it's been a while. I don't recall if the The Williams FP had enough adjustment to make that, but I would guess so if your Annies do. Has about the same height adjustment as some of my Anschutzs. Though I DO recall the overall problem was that the sight itself was a little twitchy and the screw to hold 'set' stunk. I remember that while I was able to slide an Anschutz eye cup over it, the actual iris had some up/down movement or shimy in it and I HATED that. Not sure if it was just mine but it didn't seem so when I asked around back then. Overall the target knobs and adjustments all just seemed a little TOO loose.

I went with an 11mm rail adapter that I had made for me and used some old Anschutz peeps I had laying around.

In fact I have a couple of new 11mm adapters on order from Lost Nation R&D that should arrive Monday for both this rifle and my youngest's Rascal. I'll probably post about them on the forum when I get a chance to test them next week.

One nice thing I DO recall about the sight set tht came with, was that my old clear front globe inserts from Champion Shooters Supply (now out of biz) for Anschutz 18mm front globes fit just fine and centered up with no issues, despite the normal inserts for this set being 17.2mm (ok Williams says .678"). I'd guess the ones from Champions Choice would fit as well. Lee Shaver makes a decent inset set I've heard as well. I have NOT tried those.

I know a couple of guys that have these and replaced the front globe with a Lyman 20.

As stated above, the stock is junk, though mine was not warped and was free floated correctly. Mine came with the scope mounts and screws from the factory as well.

Overall with a bit of trigger work the FVT is a decent enough rifle with a cheap stock, and smallish bolt handle. It is truly in need of the one from the faux sniper model, but I thought that required WAY more work than I wanted to do back then as it might require headspacing.

I do not recall where you folks shoot, from your match reviews, but I'd be happy to haul this thing up for someone to check out @ 200 if anything is open in this season. I'll have to hunt up the Williams "fool proof". I know where it should be though. Drop me a PM. It can't be more than a 3 hour drive anywhere in the state from here, LOL. :bthumb:

 

Not sure how far I can sight in with my FVT1 but 25 yards i8s almost bottom of the scale on the Williams receiver sight

My FVT MK1 sports a ProVarmint stock filled mag cutout and I switched to a Lyman 90, more solid sight, solid feeling click adjustments.

KM

 

Pulled the FVT out tonight as the 11mm rail adapter arrived. Looking at it I remembered a couple of other things about the stock sight set.

The front globe took my anschutz screw-ins, not just the clear inserts I like. So I could use an Anschutz clamping disk if I really needed to. I had a spare one from some other sight set so I tested it this evening. Screws RIGHT in. That's kinda nice.

The front globe tightens to the dovetail adapter by means of an outside screw edge. this means you chew the heck outa the underlying dovetail adapter every time you tighten it down. sucks.

Front globe is like ~1.14" (28.97mm) bore to insert center. roughly .54" dovetail adapter top to insert center. ~0.9" bottom of the barrel dovetail to insert center. (I mic'ed it 22.99mm)

all measurements are approximations even with the micrometer because I'm rather lazy tonight about double zero'ing.

 

I use the Williams Globe and Lyman 20 front sights. Each uses the same insert or Lee Shaver which are thin enough to stack or combine inserts in the sight.
Williams and Lyman 20-93 globes differ in mountings so a range of methods to mount and heights above bore can be achieved.


Another rear sight possible upgrade is to a Redfield 75 as used on Remington 513T KM

 

Thanks for the review. Best I have found on the internet. I hope to order/pick up one next week. I am planning to shoot the CMP Smallbore quarterly postal in 3-psn and prone which starts this quarter - Jan 21 and the CMP Rimfire at traveling games. This rifle qualifies for both. Indeed, it is the rifle CMP offers to youth affiliated clubs at a much-reduced price. After your review, I have settled on this MKIIFVT - eventually with a Boyd pro varmint stock for the small-bore, and the standard stock for Rimfire games.