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Offhand Handgun Matches Scores and Discussion

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#1 · (Edited)
Well, I've got it running, I think. Here's a score from last month to use as an example:

***10-Yd IRONS ENTRY***

DATE:1/21/2021
SCORE:193 -- 1X
NAME: Ynned AGE 68:
LOCATION: N.E.Ohio
GUN:
GUN SETUP: ___Scope __x_Iron sights
AMMO: Federal Thunderbolt
INDIV TGTS SCORES:45 1X, 32, 38, 39, 39
NOTES, WEATHER, light snow, 35 degrees give or take, typical North Coast gloom

Have fun and happy shooting. Oh, and cut me some slack on the posting of the scoreboard, I'm no wizard, so it won't look real pretty, but the scores will be right.
 
#2 ·
So I got out today to shoot a few...

***10-Yd IRONS Practice***

DATE: 2/12/2021
SCORE:191 1X
NAME: Ynned AGE: 68
LOCATION: Dad's back Yard
GUN:Buckmark
GUN SETUP: ___Scope __x_Iron sights
AMMO:
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 36 1X,38,48,36,33
NOTES, WEATHER,29d F, sunny
 
#3 ·
***10-Yd Scope***

DATE: 2/12/2021
SCORE:217 1X
NAME: jsenick Joe AGE: 70
LOCATION: Indoor
GUN: S&W Victory
GUN SETUP: _X__Scope ___Iron sights
AMMO: SK PistolMatch
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 42, 43, 47 1X,42, 43
NOTES, WEATHER - A boring 72 degrees - no wind.
 

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#4 ·
***15-Yd Scope***

DATE: 2/12/2021
SCORE:190 1X
NAME: jsenick Joe AGE: 70
LOCATION: Indoor
GUN: S&W Victory
GUN SETUP: _X__Scope ___Iron sights
AMMO: SK PistolMatch
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 33, 38, 36, 44 1X,39
NOTES, WEATHER - A boring 72 degrees - no wind.
 
#5 ·
***25-Yd Scope***

DATE: 2/12/2021
SCORE:90
NAME: jsenick Joe AGE: 70
LOCATION: Indoor
GUN: S&W Victory
GUN SETUP: _X__Scope ___Iron sights
AMMO: SK PistolMatch
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 18, 23, 12, 21, 16
NOTES, WEATHER - A boring 72 degrees - no wind.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Good to see some scores already showing up. :gun4:

And great work covering all three ranges with the pistol Joe. That dot looks just right sitting on top of that Victory too!


***10-Yd IRONS ENTRY***

DATE:2/13/21
SCORE:230 4X
NAME: Signmaster - Bob AGE: 58
LOCATION: Va Beach indoor
GUN: Ruger Mark II
GUN SETUP: stock iron sights
AMMO: Federal Automatch
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 49 2X

NOTES: Shot on three targets, but wish I could have kept up that first 5 target pace! Should have taken more targets to work on 15 and 25 yard, but got some centerfire pistol shooting in as well. I actually felt kind of shaky today, but my score went up. I'm wondering if I've been leaving more points on the table due to the (even cheaper) bulk ammo I used the last couple of practices.

I've got plenty of ammo for testing, might send some of the good stuff down the Ruger as I improve.
 
#9 · (Edited)
Joe,

I changed to a 6 o'clock hold because regardless of which A23 I print, it's just a black dot for me as well. The lower hold lets me get front sight contrast on the white, since I have limited light indoors where I shoot.

They do make A23 targets that have a white center (I think it's through the 9 ring) but I don't have any I could print. And in some cases, ordering targets is as cheap or cheaper than printing them off your printer, depending on ink costs.
 
#8 ·
As I feared, I'm out of my league here, but that's not gonna stop me.
Guys, we talked about shooting as much as you want, then posting the best effort. It's only about half way into this month, so I don't know whether these are entries or practice...i.e., do you want me to post them? If we get a bunch of interest, I'm not gonna want to wade through the month looking for the best of several reports for very many people. Maybe mark them practice or entry? However you want to do it, but let me know whether to post them on the scoreboard.
Thanks,
Dennis
 
#10 ·
As I feared, I'm out of my league here, but that's not gonna stop me.
For me this is all about personal improvement. I have no doubt some very good to great shooters are going to find this and humble my scores. I'm good with that, as it proves I have something to aim for with my goals. With all the variations in hardware, experience, ammo, shooting conditions, vision, etc.... all I can do is try to improve myself.

I'm personally hoping that some of the top notch guys show up so we can learn from them.

Guys, we talked about shooting as much as you want, then posting the best effort. It's only about half way into this month, so I don't know whether these are entries or practice...i.e., do you want me to post them? If we get a bunch of interest, I'm not gonna want to wade through the month looking for the best of several reports for very many people. Maybe mark them practice or entry? However you want to do it, but let me know whether to post them on the scoreboard.
Thanks,
Dennis
For mine, I marked it as an entry since I want to work on differing things later this month. But I will roll with whatever way you want to do it. It seems to me just declaring it as practice or entry should make it easier for your scoreboard if things get busy.
 
#11 ·
Man, I suck at this.

***15-Yd IRONS PRACTICE***

DATE: 02/14/2021
SCORE:115 - 0X
NAME Ynned, AGE: 68
LOCATION: Dad's Back Yard
GUN:Buckmark
GUN SETUP: ___Scope _x__Iron sights
AMMO:
INDIV TGTS SCORES:19,21,30,23,22
NOTES, WEATHER: 22°F, partly sunny...IOW no excuse except ability
 
#14 · (Edited)
The people that suck at this are lucky to have a couple rounds hit the paper to score. With the short barrels of handguns that most of us own, it's always going to be a challenge. It gives us something to build on with technique, sight picture and adjustments, and the whole sequence of when we squeeze off the round.

..snipped..

That's my view as well. In the rifle matches, there's a tier of a few guys who turn in some scores that are all the more amazing once you've tried and failed at lesser goals. It isn't an equipment race either; I've found focus and technique to be what limits me.

I've picked up tips generously offered by them. This has allowed my to improve, but that top tire is really an order of magnitude better. I'm OK with that.
We are both on the same page here. I can only hope to shoot the scores some in the rifle matches are shooting, even if I upgraded hardware. Most of it is pure dedication and skillset in the case of that top tier.

At any level, we can absorb what the others do and see if it works for us. Also agreed on the hardware aspect. Unless a person is shooting pure crap hardware, the overall technique usually overcomes high end hardware in the hands of someone less skilled. And at some point we have to learn from our mistakes as well, and that might include hardware blame when it isn't the hardware.
 
#13 ·
***15-Yd IRONS ENTRY***

DATE:2/14/21
SCORE:199 0X
NAME: Signmaster - Bob AGE: 58
LOCATION: Va Beach indoor
GUN: Ruger Mark II
GUN SETUP: stock iron sights
AMMO: Federal Automatch
Notes and excuses: They sure do get smaller quickly as you add distance!

I improved 1 point over the last time I shot 15 yards in practice. Still using 6 o'clock hold. After shooting for score, I used a piece of building foam for a rest and shot a 45 on the same target, so it's me and not the weapon or adjustments.

More work to do at this and longer ranges, but I'm having fun with it.
 
#22 · (Edited)
Got out again today. Pretty windy, but it's above freezing and the snow's melting so I'm happy, even though my feet got cold and wet.

***10 Yd Irons***
DATE: 2/23/2021
SCORE: 188 2X
NAME Ynned AGE 68
LOCATION: Dad's back yard
GUN: Browning Buckmark Nickel
GUN SETUP: ___Scope _x__Iron sights (Williams Fire Sights)
AMMO: Armscor Precision
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 39 1X, 34 1X, 43 39, 33
NOTES, WEATHER, mostly sunny, 42* winds 20+/- gusting to 30





 
#24 ·
Tried again

Sunny (kinda) again today, so I went out to Dad's and slopped around in the slush and snow and mud. No improvement.

***10 Yd Irons***
DATE: 2/24/2021
SCORE: 171 0X
NAME Ynned AGE 68
LOCATION: Dad's back yard
GUN: Browning Buckmark Nickel
GUN SETUP: ___Scope _x__Iron sights (Williams Fire Sights)
AMMO: Armscor Precision
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 30, 42, 34, 35, 30
NOTES, WEATHER, mostly sunny, 45* winds 10+/-

***15 Yd Irons***
DATE: 2/24/2021
SCORE: 115 0X
NAME Ynned AGE 68
LOCATION: Dad's back yard
GUN: Browning Buckmark Nickel
GUN SETUP: ___Scope _x__Iron sights (Williams Fire Sights)
AMMO: Armscor Precision
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 23, 17, 20, 30, 25
NOTES, WEATHER, mostly sunny, 45* winds 10
 
#25 · (Edited)
You guys got me all excited, I shoveled a 10 yard path to the bern. Hung 5 NRA TQ-3/1 targets and proceeded to perforate them with my GP100 which just came back from Ruger. First 3 targets looked like a chimp was behind the trigger. 4 was OK and 5 was what I was expecting. Think I should have waited after shoveling the 30” deep wet snow. More to follow.
Target 5
2-7’s
2-8’s
1-9
5-10’s
No X’s

Tomorrow try again, no shoveling required.
Great fun, can I use the 1911 or rim fire only?
1- 38
2-74
3-74
4-84
5-89
Total-359

Only a first run, will conform to the scoring format. Just good to go out and shoot. I’m 72 and prefer Iron sights.

Rich
 
#26 ·
You guys got me all excited, I shoveled a 10 yard path to the bern. Hung 5 NRA TQ-3/1 targets and proceeded to perforate them with my GP100 which just came back from Ruger. First 3 targets looked like a chimp was behind the trigger. 4 was OK and 5 was what I was expecting. Think I should have waited after shoveling the 30" deep wet snow. More to follow.
Target 5
2-7's
2-8's
1-9
5-10's
No X's

Tomorrow try again, no shoveling required.
Great fun, can I use the 1911 or rim fire only?
1- 38
2-74
3-74
4-84
5-89
Total-359r

Only a first run, will conform to the scoring format. Just good to go out and shoot. I'm 72 and prefer Iron sights.

Rich
Rich,
I had to look up the TQ 3/1 target, and it says it's the same as the A 23, so you're good to go there, we shoot 5 rounds each into 5 bulls for a total of 25 shots. Read the rules here, and join the fun. I was over ruled about the other calibers, it was thought the larger hole gave a scoring advantage, so rimfire only. In the rules thread, you'll find an entry format I'd appreciate you use, it makes it way easier for me to tabulate at the end of the month. I also included a printable target if you want it.
Later,
Dennis
 
#30 ·
************10 YD IRONS ENTRY*********

DATE:2/26/2020
SCORE:213-5x
NAME: Purple Bikerr (61)
LOCATION:Blue River Gun Club, Blue River, Wi
GUN: Ruger MK III 22/45
GUN SETUP: ___Scope __x__Iron Sights
AMMO: CCI Blazers
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 40-0x, 47-3x, 42,1x, 42-1x, 42

Mostly sunny, wind 15 mph (+-) from 6 o'clock. 'bout 12" of snow on the ground.

Ynned, thanx for setting up this match. I have been shooting the "Off-Hand Rifle Match" for 5-6 years. This gives me a "purpose" to get the Ruger and the Browning Challenger II (scoped gun) out of the house more often. I usually shoot steel. This will test my skills.
 
#33 ·
***10-Yd IRONS ENTRY***

DATE: 2/27/2021
SCORE:234-8x
NAME: Mike3838 AGE 61
LOCATION: N.C. Illinois
GUN:Ruger MkII
GUN SETUP: ___Scope __x_Iron sights
AMMO: Fiocchi SV
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 47-2x 46-2x 46-1x 47-1x 48-2x

Best target attached.
 

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#34 ·
***10-Yd IRONS ENTRY***

DATE: 2/26/2021
SCORE:212. 2X
NAME: Rich, 72
LOCATION: SW Mich
GUN:Ruger GP100
GUN SETUP: ___Scope __x_Iron sights
AMMO: Greco
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 43, 45 1-X, 44, 41, 39 1-X

Can’t wait for the snow to melt so I can get back to the offhand rifle. I had to shovel a 10 yard path to the berm for this one. Will give it a try with a center fire as I’ve always tended to shoot the bigger calibers better. Would tell my cohorts it’s the cheap Polack in me..........they cost more so I have to try harder.
My wife wants to give it a go but says she’s not a member, told her that’s not a factor.

Rich
 

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#36 · (Edited)
Yay! I broke 200 on the last day. No Xs, But a couple decent groups.
Edit: Dang! No, I screwed up. 193







***10-Yd SCOPED ENTRY***

DATE:2/28/2021
SCORE:193 - 0X
NAME Ynned AGE: 68
LOCATION: N E Ohio
GUN: Buckmark Nickle
GUN SETUP: ___Scope _X__Iron sights
AMMO: Armscor Precision
INDIV TGTS SCORES:29, 42, 44, 35, 43 0X
NOTES, WEATHER: Gloomy, drizzly, moderate winds
 
#37 ·
Yay! I broke 200 on the last day. No Xs, But a couple decent groups.
Edit: Dang! No, I screwed up. 193

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***10-Yd SCOPED ENTRY***

DATE:2/28/2021
SCORE:193 - 0X
NAME Ynned AGE: 68
LOCATION: N E Ohio
GUN: Buckmark Nickle
GUN SETUP: ___Scope _X__Iron sights
AMMO: Armscor Precision
INDIV TGTS SCORES:29, 42, 44, 35, 43 0X
NOTES, WEATHER: Gloomy, drizzly, moderate winds
Hey, that doesn't look so bad Dennis.
Kind of looks like my 50-Yd rifle attempts, with one exception---all your shots are on the paper !
:)
Cheers
Bob
 
#39 ·
OK, the February scores are up, Let me know if I screwed something up, or I didn't wait long enough for you to post, or whatever.

For those who didn't get in on the early discussion, score compilations are a sticky thread at the top of this forum:
Here's a link.

Later,
Dennis
 
#43 ·
Thanks for getting this rolling Dennis. Hopefully it will grow as time goes on. The spreadsheets look good to me, but you did leave jsenick's name off the one entry on 15 yards.

And it looks like so far, Rugers are outnumbering non Rugers by 2 to 1!

Also good to see you hit a new high score. I had a few bricks of that Armscor stuff, and really had few problems with misfires. But I suspect your scores might
go up when you find something else.... the stuff I had was really inconsistent and could throw some crazy fliers now and then. Here and there I would get lucky and get 10-20 rounds that were sort of consistent.... but not often.
 
#40 · (Edited)
A nice, bright, sunny day, so I went back out to Dad's and shot a box. My best this year at 15 yds, 157
4X. More remakably, actually, was the fact I shot an entire box of the Armscor Precision crap without a single dud. :D

***15-Yd Irons ENTRY***
DATE: 03/03/2021
SCORE: 157 - 4X
NAME Ynned AGE: 68
LOCATION: Dad's back yard on the North Coast
GUN: Buckmark Nickle
GUN SETUP: ___Scope __X_Iron sights
AMMO: Armscor precision
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 39, 20, 35 1X, 32 1X, 31 2X
NOTES, WEATHER, sunny, nice, 47*, no wind, no excuses





 
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#47 ·
First time I've shot this ammo at 25 yards, darn stuff went right where I pointed it :eek:

Shot at 25 Yards
DATE: 03/02/2021
SCORE: 181-0X
NAME: Gwelo (Nick) AGE: 75
LOCATION: AZ National Forrest
GUN: Colt Gold Cup Trophy with Nelson Custom .22 Conversion
GUN SETUP: UltraDot MatchDot
AMMO: Aguila Standard Velocity
INDIV TGTS SCORES: 36, 31, 38, 37, 39
2 Hand Hold, Unsupported
Awesome shooting, especially at 10 yards.

I'm happy to keep them all on target these days at 15. You did good my friend.

Arizona offers a lot of places to shoot. Good to see you found one.
 
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#52 ·
Hey, thanks all! I'll be going to Southeast Regional Park tomorrow, a nice range just outside Tucson. Be able to shoot at 15 yards and try again at 25. The A-23 target is ok at 10 and 15 but tough at 25 so will be a challenge. I normally shoot the B-16 which is the 25 yard "Official" NRA Slow Fire Pistol target and is a little more forgiving (hint, hint).
Nick :bthumb:
Gwelo,
You're not the only one to have made this suggestion. I really don't care if the general consensus is to go with the bigger target for the 25 yd distance, but I don't want to set up and keep track of another whole match or two. If you all decide to go that route, I can add that to the rules, and add a link for buying the targets, but realize there is already one or two scores in February and a couple or more in March that used the A-23 target, so it won't be very well correlated.

I personally haven't tried the 25 yd distance, because I doubt I can even hit the paper very often, so it doesn't matter to me except that we've already got started with the smaller target, but I'll go however the majority wants, as long as it doesn't get too confusing.
Thanks,
Dennis
 
#50 ·
yes

Thanks to Signmaster posting on the Ruger Mark II forum I visit. I am very excited about trying this out. Have been shooting just over 50 years and have never been to an organized shoot so this section of the forum gives me new purpose. I tried the 25 yards open sights a few days ago and scored 125 0X so there is much room for improvement. I normally use a sight picture at the bottom of the bullseye but used a center hold for this test as that is where the pistol was sighted in and it looked quite a bit different. Should I go ahead and raise the sights to get back to the bottom hold like I am used to? Since there is a couple of inches from the bottom to center of target I would think there might be extra error left or right if you are not perfectly vertical in your hold from shot to shot.

Just read all the pages on this forum and had an idea. In talking about multiple posts at the same distance for practice or record for the month, since we can edit our posts, you could almost put all of your efforts in the one post for that distance keeping your best info for the month on the top of your post. If I were shooting 25 yards only with open sight and red dot that would give me two separate posts for the month. Just an idea.
 
#51 ·
Thanks to Signmaster posting on the Ruger Mark II forum I visit. I am very excited about trying this out. Have been shooting just over 50 years and have never been to an organized shoot so this section of the forum gives me new purpose. I tried the 25 yards open sights a few days ago and scored 125 0X so there is much room for improvement. I normally use a sight picture at the bottom of the bullseye but used a center hold for this test as that is where the pistol was sighted in and it looked quite a bit different. Should I go ahead and raise the sights to get back to the bottom hold like I am used to? Since there is a couple of inches from the bottom to center of target I would think there might be extra error left or right if you are not perfectly vertical in your hold from shot to shot.

Just read all the pages on this forum and had an idea. In talking about multiple posts at the same distance for practice or record for the month, since we can edit our posts, you could almost put all of your efforts in the one post for that distance keeping your best info for the month on the top of your post. If I were shooting 25 yards only with open sight and red dot that would give me two separate posts for the month. Just an idea.
Jazz,
I had to ponder this a while, and while I appreciate your suggestion, I think it'll keep my job easier (something I value highly) to keep each entry in it's own post.
The post numbers are about all I can use to keep track, and if you keep editing the same post, I'll have to keep going back to it to see the latest score you've posted. If you make a new post, all I have to do is check whether I've entered that post.
The main thing from my point of view is knowing that a post is an entry (using the prescribed format is very helpful for that) and once I enter that post number, I'm done with it.
Thanks for your interest, though.
Later,
Dennis