It's a Norinco. Unfired collector value is roughly $1.50.

Shoot the snot out of it.

 

It's a Norinco. Unfired collector value is roughly $1.50.

Shoot the snot out of it.

Welll...actually....

Some Norinco rifles are very good copies of Brno rifles, and some will shoot with them too.

So I'd say the value may be as high as $150. 😅

Unfired....I'm not a collector, and so I think the "unfired" thing is a joke.
If it's unfired....Does it even work? Will it even group?

And....people CLAIM unfired. But how does one PROVE unfired? I don't buy that claim at all.

 

Thought so.

 

Shoot it!

 

I will shoot it, I typically shoot 3 to 4 days a week.

 

I bought a JW15 from an older member of my club who used to for many decades to win quite a few matches against guys with big bucks guns. Mine is a tack-driver and fun to use.

 

Now if it was a 1911......

 

Norinco's vary a good bit, the good ones can be quite good and poor one's generally are plinker grade only...

 

I've seen a lot of very nice Norinco 1911s but, you are correct, it is a crap shoot. It is interesting to note though, to convert to a 460 Rowland, they name specific guns that have proven to be reliable and strong enough to handle the power of the cartridge and Norinco in one of them named specifically. I believe it is the only import on the list.

 

The Norinco JW-15 is essentially a Chinese copy of the CZ-452 or even earlier BRNO Number 1 or 2 rifle. In general, the JW-15 barreled action is well made and capable of shooting good groups. Where most of them lack is in the stock which is made of chu wood, a light and very soft wood that isn't the best for rifle stocks.

 

They used that same action (Brno copy), to make a really nice rimfire K98k model-

It was no ES350, but still a pretty decent Mauser facsimile . It even accepted an original bayonet, lol.

 

They used that same action (Brno copy), to make a really nice rimfire K98k model-
It was no ES350, but still a pretty decent Mauser facsimile . It even accepted an original bayonet, lol.

I would like to read more about this. Could you start another thread with some how-to details and your assembly experience. Cost and availability of parts. If available.
I guess if you did it all from scratch its not for me, but even that would be good-to-know.
Good Brno are hard to find and not cheap but roached out recent import Brno are an easy score.

 

My JW15 for no explainable reason is one of the most accurate .22s I own and I own more than a few.

 

I have a Norinco AK74 made in 1994 which is probably the highest quality AK I've ever shot. Which plant makes the weapon makes a difference. They have a huge military production plant just outside of Beijing that produces some good steel. Of course most of the wood I've seen from them looks like packing crate lumber.

Here is my crazy Chinese girl friend shooting mine. These are milled receivers with stainless steel bolts and chrome lined barrels.

 

Just reading and hearing the name Norinco being thrown around brought back some good memories of us service shop guys who bought and shot that stuff back in the day when it came out. What fun. The SKS’s, AK’s and all that 7.62x39 ammo. I scored on a Hungarian AK that is quite accurate. But was a rare find at the time. Have to break that out sometime soon. Majority of the shop guys were jumping on the Chinese SKS’s. Guy at the gun shop kept telling me he was gonna getting some Yougoslav versions of the SKS in so I held off for a bit. If they were all buying the Chinese version I wanted something different. Would have bought both if I were smarter. Anyway the Yougos came in and it is a great shooting $89 rifle. Will break both of them out when it gets warmer out and burn up some of that old Norinco ammo.

 

Have polish 5.56 akm, hungarian, polish 5.56 akm, Bulgarian akm, Romanian akm. Yugoslavian akm. Before I sold the collection I had a Yugoslavian m69 training .22 and the norinco jw15. Crude and relatively ugly to my eye. Both were shooters not plinkers. Not debating Gerald at all. Com block stuff can dubious. Too much drink bad day etcetera as to what you get. Once I got all the cosmoline out of yugo it was impressive. Thinking 1/2"at 50Y if I was doing my part. Norinco had more consistent results. IIRC jw15 is a copy of a bruno 2. Extremely helpful as it took cz 452 magazines. The norinco magazine was junked pretty quickly as the spring was bad. I de-burred it and replaced the spring. It was fine after a little work. It was fun at the range watching kids with pimped out 10/22 and cz ta

lking all manner of trash about their cool expensive stuff. Then pulling out and old unknown to them banger and pulling some really really tight groups. Things would get pretty quiet. You can still get new jw15 threaded barrels. If you're in Australia. Jw15 on left with tasco 3-9 I think m69 had a fixed 4x truglo junker that worked fine. M69 doesn't really had a scope rail you have to get creative. Hungarian akm 63d 7.62x39 clone.

kyber pass yugo folder with para military furniture. 7.62x39

polish fb radom beryl 5.56 in nato spec trim.

 

Love it.

 

My near stock JW-15. It has been refinished and some trigger work done. As others have stated, it shoots with the best of them. I really enjoy shooting it.
Not pictured, yet, is another JW-15 that has been converted into a BR-50 rifle. It has a Shilen barrel, an unknown match trigger, modified Win 52 stock and a very stiff firing pin spring to speed up lock time. I have never shot it against another rifle, group shooting shows very competitive accuracy.

 

Just put 60 rounds through it no issues grouped good at 50 yards, guess I will do something about the finish and keep shooting it. I paid $80.00 for it so no harm no foul.

 

I've had three JW-15's, one ran with the average Brno/CZ452, the other two weren't bad, just not good enough to keep...in the end an overabundance of rimfire rifles moved them all on. Not knocking them.

 

Some no cost options that would possibly help with accuracy would be making sure the barrel is floated, experimentation with torque settings of the action screws and perhaps a spring change on the trigger.

 

I have just started playing with torque settings on my guns looking for a little extra, tightened up my groups on my 10-22.

 

I've never owned a JW-15 Norinco but long-time friend, no longer w/us had one that he spoke very highly of, and he was quite the knowledgeable gun buff and shooter. He moved it on as his health deteriorated but was quite fond ofvit, as I am of a couple of model 69 Romanian trainers that shoot way over their heads, appearance wise, and are ugly ducklings like seen in some parks... where you near find yourself feeling sorry for them. Had I the chance to buy a clean JW-15 at a reasonable price, I'd throw the dice w/o blinking and see what comes up. My friend's was a dandy shooter and gave him a lot of satisfaction while he had it.

He had a way of staying ahead of the curve... and few deals escaped him. I miss his wisdom but gosh he left a lot of good footprints... all over the net and for significant FTF encounters that were never not great fun as well.

Bride is fixin' us some seared country style pork ribs w/canned Franks™ Kraut and pickled beets for the side. It's perfect Friday fare... and I've just been summoned.

Not many days until Fat Tuesday and in Daytona Beach bike week has unofficially already begun.

 

I wish I had picked up a Norinco JW15 and K98K back when they were inexpensive. Great guns for the money and their increas in value shows it. I currently have a H&R Pardner Security pump shotgun made by them. It's a Rem 870 copy but heavy duty. Functions as smooth as my 1970s Wingmaster but you could use it as a battering ram. Yeah lots of China stuff is crap but some of the guns are pretty solid stuff.

 

I wish I had picked up a Norinco JW15 and K98K back when they were inexpensive. Great guns for the money and their increase in value shows it.

Welllllll...not really. The increase is due to lack of supply, more than demand for quality.
I have a K98k, and a few other Mausers, Enfields, and Mosins.

The Mosin 91/30 was under $80 back in the day, and now it's over $300 and climbing. NOT due to the quality. Simply because they aren't making anymore, and importing them is hard.

Here are two of mine. I didn't do anything to them, this is how they looked right out of the store.

 

I had a JW-15 a few decades ago and slayed a lot of ground squirrels with it.
They shoot much better than you'd expect.

A couple years ago I saw an ad from the next town over for a Norinco .22, I just assumed that the guy had a JW-15.
The rifle I ended up buying from him was a Norinco EM-322.

Made from tooling that Norinco bought from Steyr in the late 70's/early 80's, the action is tight and nicely blued, and has a rotary hammer forged barrel.
I thought the feature on the stock that holds two extra mags was cool, but the yellow Chu wood stock was not cool, so I replaced it with a Circassian Walnut stock from Poly Technologies.

Whereas the Jw-15 is a copy of the Brno/CZ, the EM-322 is more a blend of the Anschutz 64 and the Suhl 150.
It will group most subsonics into less than 1/2" at 50 yards., my best group with Eley Club was 10 shots into .360" at 50.

 

The EM322 is new to me. i found some more reading here:

Chinese EM322- like NS522 | Rimfire Central Firearm Forum

 

The NS-522's that the guys in the Commonwealth countries have access to usually had much nicer stocks, and the NS-522 had a heavier barrel.
The stock I bought from Kengs (Poly Technologies in Atlanta) was meant for the heavier barrel NS, so I have a good 1/8" of air around my sporter weight barrel, free floating for sure.
You can see some nice grain if you look closely, I think a refinish with darker stain and some Tru-oil would bring out that grain, the light stain and sprayed on poly finish it currently has doesn't do it justice.

The NS-522 has the spirals from the rotary hammer forging process, they turned those barrels down to put on the EM=322 so mine doesn't have the spirals.
The first time I looked down the bore I was impressed, the rifling looks as sharp and precise as any I've ever seen.
The triggers on these seem a bit crude but work. Mine was around 4 lbs. and had excessive pre travel.
I put a pop can shim in with JB Weld to reduce the creep and changed out the spring for the safety pin, now the trigger is short and sweet at 1.5 lbs.

The weird grey finish that Norinco used on the floor plate, mag base plates and the magazine holder for the stock bugged me, I finally got around to putting some Midnight Black Cerakote on them.

Original stock with the mag holder:

 

The NS-522's that the guys in the Commonwealth countries have access to usually had much nicer stocks, and the NS-522 had a heavier barrel.
The stock I bought from Kengs (Poly Technologies in Atlanta) was meant for the heavier barrel NS, so I have a good 1/8" of air around my sporter weight barrel, free floating for sure.

As I recall, the NS-522 was imported by Kengs (Atlanta, GA) as a barreled action and then put in a Bishop stock. I bought one new in 2000 and still have it although I haven't shot it in years.

 

I bought a few norincos back when they were still being imported.
New in the box sks was 65 bucks individual and 55 bucks if you took the entire case.
Only .22s I bought were some browning copys.
Still have one, gave a couple away years ago (for what the cost now wish I held on to them).
Was a long time ago but when wally would put them on sale, was something like 65 bucks as well!!!!
From what I understand atleast not to long ago they could still be bought new in Canada of all places !?!?!?
Whare did all the u.s. suppliers go🤔🤔🤫?????
By the way, everyone I owned or shot worked very well as long as they were initially well cleaned!!!

 

The U.S. suppliers haven't got any because of the import ban on Norinco products.
Shooters in Australia, New Zealand and Canada have been able to buy Norinco stuff all along.

 

Definitely the case!!!
Apologies it was my poor attempt at sarcasm 😅!!!!