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New 2024 Winchester Ranger Lever Action

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27K views 153 replies 55 participants last post by  Hopkins man  
#1 ·
2024 Shot Show special / introduction...

guess the 9422's are going to be worth a LOT more money now (after seeing these :eek:).
It will be interesting to hear the buzz and feedback about them anyway
 
#5 ·
As undesirable as this aluminum wonder might be to me, the truth is 95% of the buyers at this price point don't care where it's made, what it's made out of, or how much greater the 9422 might be. Aluminum, zinc, steel receiver? Most don't know the difference or care. The only questions are, does it work all the time, and can my kid hit that tin can with it? If so, the cheaper the better. Most customers can't really see the differences in fit and finish, either. Look how popular the zinc alloy Henry rifles are?
 
#11 ·
The price along with the added,
"The Ranger can be separated in two by removing one action screw. This allows you to easily clean the action and run a patch through the barrel from the chamber end to prevent damage to the rifling. The rifling is also protected by a target-style muzzle crown."
may make this worth watching as a good pack takedown rifle if the accuracy is reasonably good.

We are in a different era where affordable steel/walnut offerings are a thing of the past and changes do not always mean its not as good.

As an old guy I still have a love for the older 60's and 70's muscle cars as those cars were sleek and had a soul and character todays cars totally lack BUT yet todays cars last a lot longer for normal use and mileage in general, get much better fuel mileage and 4 cylinders today are putting out more horsepower than a lot of yesteryears smaller v-8's.
And the big thing I do not miss on the older cars is walking across a stores parking lot and trying to make sure I did not step in the oil buildup spots in unoccupied parking spaces that were common in every parking lot in the 70's but you never really see that anymore.

Getting back to the new Winchester Ranger .22lr would I trade my early 70's model 39a for one, well no but on that same note I do not see myself going out and buying a new equivalent Marlin 39a as that early 70's gun if it were available new in 2024 at probably a price point which would be around $1500 to use as a squirrel getter either.

So yes these new guns have a place and be honest most younger shooters are not as nostalgic about steel/walnut blued firearms as us older guys either so the manufacturers are not building these to appease to us old guys but a new generation of buyers.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Remington's alloyed receiver 572 production began in the 1950s. there was probably naysayers then too.
We've had three 572s made from early 60s to early 90s, all good guns
I had a 70s era alloy receiver Marlin 60 no telling how many thousands of rounds I put thru that rifle.
Steel is nice I like my Marlin 39A's but the alloy Ithaca and Henry run just fine
 
#17 ·
From the Winchester site,
"What makes the Ranger different is the receiver, which is precision machined from a billet of solid aluminum and durably black anodized. The receiver is lightweight and contributes to the balanced feel of the rifle between the hands. It's also strong and the precision construction helps ensure longevity. The top of the receiver is grooved to accept optics mounts. "

Sounds like this is a one piece receiver and being made from billet Aluminum , come one guys we are talking pressure loads from a .22lr here not a .300 WM!
They are talking the rifle weight being 5lbs 4ounces so no doubt light enough for a walk around rifle.

At this point if the accuracy reviews on these pan out as being good I can definitely see one beside my rimfire Marlin and Henry in the near future as soon as you can actually get them!
 
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#28 ·
I doubt there will ever be anything close to the 9422s or 39s. Now the main focus is building it the cheapest way you can to earn more profit. I have four 9422s, one being a magnum. No interest in buying any other lever action. Of course that's just me. I take that back, the Ranger would be a nice gun to carry in your pickup and not worry about scratching up.
 
#32 ·
I actually own a 39a and a Henry., in the past I had a 9422m as well and honestly if Ruger/Marlin were to reintroduce an actual 39a you can bet you will probably be looking at close to three times the price of this new Winchester Ranger.

If I had to pick one thing I dislike about the standard Henry rimfire lever guns it would be the painted clamshell design receiver cover held on by 4 screws rather than a solid receiver.

Winchester has addressed this issue with their anodized one piece receiver and done it in the same price range the Henry sells for!
For a .22lr there is no reason to need a steel receiver over the machined billet aluminum alloy they have chosen to use and honestly for a field rifle it will be lighter than steel which is a plus.

Of course need to see some reviews on feeding /reliability along with accuracy from a number of examples of the production guns but if those check out I bet Winchester will be selling all of these they can get out the door.
I do plan on being one of those buyers from what I see so far!

And I can bet you a dead squirrel is not going to care whether it was shot with a Marlin 39a, Henry H001 or one of these new Winchester Rangers as it will still be just as dead!
 
#40 ·
It's just a shame to see a once top tier firearms manufacturer not offer a top shelf rimfire in their product line.
Honestly as consumers we do not have access to the sales numbers from the manufacturers as to what actually sells at a volume which makes it continued production financially profitable for the company.
When it comes to a rimfire lever gun I am sure overall there is a price ceiling where generally above that you start seeing sales numbers fall off drastically.

As you are seeing multiple manufacturers seeming to produce lever action rimfires centralized more in the $450-$650 price ranges I would guess this is the sweet spot where a reliable and fairly accurate rifle can be produced with decent profit margins and the volume of units sold will be at its best.

Above that price point level yes, you have a few admirers or collectors that are willing to pay the price but at an overall low numbers volume level which reduces the profitability down to a much more insignificant level with the higher production cost and fewer numbers actually being sold.

Remember for a manufacturing company doing a production run on something laying on a warehouse shelf for 6 months or longer waiting to be sold actually reduces the amount of profit seen on that item on the books.
For maximum profitability they need to make the product this week and have the product shipped out of the door already sold next week, not months from now.