Isn't it ironic that the cartridge with less powder costs more money?

 

Like the mini Pepsi cans.

 

The one's with less powder or rather no powder is the original colibri. Which has like a 490 fps velocity.. This cartridge is still in production and available from Agulia. From midway to target sports etc.. I plan on getting a whole case next week. This is separate from what I shown in Pic.


In my Pic is the super colibri which is believe contains a small powder charge at 590 FPS velocity and I believe is also out of production. I'm not sure why this shop had it priced at $12 dollars per box.. it's just a store that is above MSRP on everything to begin with like a gun show. If you read the whole post this shop didn't know there out of production nor did they know what a colibri is. He tried telling me that was the caliber. Which gave me total brain freeze.

 

Isn't that funny? I used to go to gun shows to get a good deal, now I leave the gun show and go to the big box gun shop to buy the gun I want for cheaper.

 

If you're speaking purely from components sake I get where you're coming from. When I first bought these or the first time from rural King I paid like $5-6 bucks maybe. I can't remember. But closer to normal market value of .22lr

Where the shop gets $12 from I have no clue. It actually makes sense as it's out of production. But at the same time. They didn't know that, nor know what a colibri was. So just random. A 500 box of norma tac22 was like $100 bucks. Another shop down the road $60 bucks. There isn't always a rhythm or reason where shops get prices from lol.

 

From when I got these originally from rural King till now was maybe 5 years.


Like I said. The first time I got them I didn't know what I was buying. Never realized you don't need hearing protection for either colibri.. After using the product and learning what it was I had been in the market for it over the last few weeks. Only to find out that only the original colibri is still available. Which I never tried. I've only used and have this out of production super colibri. I am going to buy a case of the regular colibri so I can plink in my garage. I will post results when I do.

 

There is no expensive 22lr ammo if, your chasing utmost accuracy in a qaulity rifle and the ammo you buy , achieves that.
You lapua X-Act and RW50 are sought and used by many at $28-$32/50 round box.
And yep.
It can be a measurable difference on a benchrest competition.
But lol.
It might not lol

Gotta love a 22lr

 

Honestly a nice pellet gun would probably better serve your needs. Probably a lot cheaper in the long run too.

I shot some of the super and regular colibri back in the day when you could get it for 3-5 cents a round. After a few boxes our curiosity was gone and we moved on.

I have a few boxes left, might be something to train grandkids to shoot rimfire with until they get a few rounds of experience.

 

There is no expensive 22lr ammo if, your chasing utmost accuracy in a qaulity rifle and the ammo you buy , achieves that.
You lapua X-Act and RW50 are sought and used by many at $28-$32/50 round box.
And yep.
It can be a measurable difference on a benchrest competition.
But lol.
It might not lol

Gotta love a 22lr

I totally get that part. I guess for me it would be achieving this from centerfire cartridge.

I would just buy a decent pellet pistol and call it a day. I have shot them both. Probably a few boxes left in the ammo cabinet. I haven't had the urge to shoot any in years.

A quality .22 caliber air gun will do anything that ammo will do and much cheaper.

The reason they have the stuff is they are ridiculous on their price. It’s your call, I just think you have better options.

Here are a couple old boxes of super and regular from a long time ago.

I already have a pellet air rifle in .177

Problem is it hits supersonic and is louder than these colibri. It's also too powerful to shoot inside. I used to shoot it in my backyard before new homes were built all around me. Colibri is still semi novelty. Main purpose is plinking a little at home when I don't always have time for range trips. I'm trying to make a shooting gallery in my house. Like back in the day with .22short in gallery guns at the fair lol

 

Sorry I edited my post but the original sent and was quoted before I got the edit done.

Good luck on your search. 👍

 

Another bonus I just thought of is I can set my sights on all my .22 platforms from home. Check for point of impact.. Which I really need to do with my heritage rough rider.

I can probably get 30-50 yards from my backyard for testing. I just need to get the regular colibri for this to be quite.

The velocities from either colbri product only compare to BB guns and come much lower velocities than pellet air guns which often can go super sonic. Even the colbri that has gun powder has a velocity below pellet rifles compareable to bb gun velocities and is still sub sonic.

I've had neighbors wondering what that crack was from the sonic booms from my .177 going supersonic. I think it's louder for the people around it then when I shoot it because they hear the sonic cracks better.

 

Colibre is utter garbage imo. If you want low sound there are tons of good to great subsonic rounds available. No way would I shoot colibre.

 

Unless you're shooting them out of a suppressor it's still likely not safe enough to use no hearing protection.

It's also much higher velocity making it unsafe for home shooting.

This is where people have to make up their minds for themselves. If I were to have used another subsonic ammunition recommended to me where I live. I could end up with legal issues.


Not to mention my neighbors will complain if I shoot what you recommended. With colibri they won't even know.


You kind of did what the shops that don't have colibri did by trying to upsell some other quiet subsonic ammunition. It's like dude I still can't shoot them in my house.

One shop knew exactly what I was doing when I asked for colibri and tried to upsell me on a suppressor lol.

 

When it comes to buying .22 ammo, I usually stick with good quality SV ammo, like CCI SV, which makes up the biggest part of my ammo stock.

But I also try some other brands if I consider something to be interesting, e. g. two packs of SK Standard +, which I purchased at a local gun store some weeks ago.

Then, I also treated myself with a box of CCI Quiet Segmented 710 fps they had in stock. I considered these to be quite exotic and interesting for testing, as I'm not a hunter, and only shoot paper targets or steel plates.

For this box of 50 rds I paid 10.10 Euro, what equals 11.90 dollars. Yes, super pricy here in good old Germany, and my most expensive box of 50 rds of .22lr I can remember recently.

Usually, my preferred price range is 4.50 to 9 Euro for a box of 50, the equivalent of 5.30 to 10.60 bucks. Anyway, it's close to impossible to find anything cheaper here.

For my rifles, I sometimes buy slightly more expensive ammo like RWS Rifle Match or Eley Club, although my proven CCI SV should be precise enough for me. I'm not a good enough rifle marksman to really notice and enjoy the benefits of even mid tier ammo. But it gives me a better feeling, because it might be better than standard, and these are still within my acceptable price range.

 

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The super has a small charge of powder. The regular colibri has zero powder and is just primer compound. I

What's you're most expensive. 22lr ammo you bought or use.

There was a recent thread about Colibri's where someone pulled apart a Super Colibri and posted a picture that showed that it did indeed contain a small amount of powder. The old ones however did not; just extra priming compound (like a magnum primer). The box had "sans poudre" printed on it.

The Colibri's and Super Colibri's IMHO are special rounds that have special applications. I have a few that I use on occasion in a single shot pistol for dispatching small animals at very close range. Sometimes I shoot Colibri's and Super Colibri's in a revolver. They are good for just checking a gun to see if it will fire. And I like to save the empties for use as snap caps because they don't expand on firing. So, IMO they are not garbage, just very limited in use.

In my ammo stash I have a little of everything except the very most expensive rounds. I have blanks, Colibri's and Super Colibri's, CB's, and on up. I mostly shoot standard velocity. I even have some BB Caps, but I don't shoot them.

Probably my most expensive ammo is SK Long Rang Match, which I don't recall what it cost. The cost as I recall was not excessive in relation to what other things cost and considering that in my advanced maturity, quality is paramount.

Once upon a time long ago, I pulled the bullets from some Colibri's, put in some 4F back powder, reseated the bullets, and fired them. They produced a little more smoke but fired just fine with not much noise. Thought about it but never tried reloading some of them with a bit of pistol powder. Just no need, I guess.

 

Me... I am not sure I am the one you want to ask. It depends...

Purpose, Conditions and Context .... if the error variance of the rifle is higher than the ammo there is often no need for ammo with more fine a precision. My off-had error variance makes anything past "moderate" unnecessary.

Poor conditions, off-hand or steel speed.
Tac-22 - it shoots moa in most of my firearms. If the wind or environment is such there is no need to use more precision than the context will let me see.

Moderate conditions where I need decent precision. The ammo will improve the precision but not sufficiently to readily see the last bit of ammo precision of the more expensive ammo.
SK, Eley Team/Match

Decent conditions where I believe I can identify the added precision of the ammo.
Lapua Long Range, Center-X, Midus+. If I thought it would be noticeable X-Act or RWS.

Gun... While my Mossberg 152k will shoot moa at 50-yards, the use of ammo above SK rarely improves things. My Anschutz 1761 MSR I can see a difference so depending on conditions and purpose the better of what I have.

Just my approach.

 

I'm always curious as to the "why" when something is claimed to be 'utter garbage'. It may be, but seems like you can't just toss that grenade without some explanation @PewPew!

 

I been shooting this stuff today around my house with a heritage rough rider. Shot some old bud light tall boy with the colibri for 4th of July.

Does for me exactly what I wanted. I will probably buy more super and regular.


This is not a primary brand of .22 I buy either. I have many varieties of different .22 ammo. This is just fulfilling specific niche roles.

 

Interesting. i wish my semi autos could fire these. my quietest set ups are Ruger charger 10/22 with cci quiet 710 fps and TX 22 with cci quiet 835 fps. Both suppressed , put a smile on my face but way too much for indoor. I can’t find any ammo slower or quieter, not even “ CCI suppressor “ 970 fps.
I wish these 2 setups could shoot something like colibri just so I could hear it.
most expensive ammo I keep around is CCI stingers.