I have some cheapo two piece rings on my 144 T-bolt, they work fine.
That said, I believe there are better all steel rings out there. But you'll have to do some searching. Brownell's come to mind.............! Midway or others? Burris may have steel rings.
Probably run you $50-$60 bucks?

You might also do a WTB here in the trading post.

Pardon Our Interruption...

 

I think Leopold makes steel tip-off rings. I have a set on one of my rifles.

 

These BKL rings from Havlin's work really well, especially since the mounting area on the 144 is small. Ginormous El Paso Weaver scope was a gift from Rosscoe, what a guy!

 

Yes and they are offset so you get more eye relief adjustment than standard rings.

 

These offset rings from Havlin's ITEM: 274M work great, I think they are Aluminum.

 

Is that scope mounted with the rear sight still in place?!?! I want to do that!!!! I've been trying to get around to doing that for decades. Last time I took off the rear sight to mount a scope, I lost it for 30 years. Not doing that again!

 

No they are aluminum, sorry.

 

Years back in my teens, I had a 144 and removed the sights and put a 6X weaver in tip off rings. It was my squirrel sniper.

 

This thread came just in time to save me some searching. I got my first Mossberg ( a 144 LSA ) being shipped tomorrow.

 

My 144LSB for years wore a 2x-7x for gopher hunting but now wears a target scope. It is the top rifle in both pictures.

 

Headhunter2,

Is that a dovetail-to-picatinny mount on the second picture of your 144LSB? which one did you use, if I may ask? I bought a Monstrum (I know: cheap). It has insufficient clearance for the curvature of the dovetail.

I;d love to put a 30mm-tubed scope on this rifle. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

jb

 

Mine with older Weaver 4X and cheap rings! Notice the Butler Creek flip up scope covers.
Funny, when I shoulder this rifle, it fits like a glove!

 

Thanks for the help all! Lots of good ideas. Looks like those steel Burris rings are just the ticket! That K10 looks right at home on it IMO, can't wait to mount mine.

 

Thanks for the help all! Lots of good ideas. Looks like those steel Burris rings are just the ticket! That K10 looks right at home on it IMO, can't wait to mount mine.

Make sure of height and eye relief needed.

 

Use a stack of washers or coins with your 3 hands to get the proper height to clear the objective bell and measure the stacks.
Ive had a couple rifles that I went as thin as a dime between barrel and bell, a business card seemed just too thin but was probably ok.
Fwiw, I put a Lyman All American PermaCenter 10x on my dads sporterized 46M(b) after trying the M4d scope & proper side mount. Yes, the M4d was an improvement over the iron sights for me but I felt like the rifle wanted to shoot better. Wow! With that 10x it really showed what it is made of.
Just today I dropped the Lyman and installed an old Tasco World Class TS 8-32x44; waiting for decent weather now.....

 

PM me if you're going throw out/trash the Lyman 10X PermaCenter?

 

Ok so I just ordered the Burris high 1" blued steel rings and I know they will fit perfectly with my 144. As I stated before, I am mounting an all steel Weaver K10 scope to this rifle. I just didn't want aluminum on a rifle with all walnut and steel, even if it was a good set up. I know, I know, if it works it works it. It's a hard mentality to break even when I understand the strength of aluminum. I'll report when it comes in but there is nearly no way it won't be correct. I've used low and medium rings thus far and the medium is ever so slightly too short, it nearly fits but the high will work for sure. Thanks again for the help all. The next step is to find a original or reproduction hand stop for the rifle. Everything else is present and intact but that.

 

Ok so I just ordered the Burris high 1" blued steel rings and I know they will fit perfectly with my 144. As I stated before, I am mounting an all steel Weaver K10 scope to this rifle. I just didn't want aluminum on a rifle with all walnut and steel, even if it was a good set up. I know, I know, if it works it works it. It's a hard mentality to break even when I understand the strength of aluminum. I'll report when it comes in but there is nearly no way it won't be correct. I've used low and medium rings thus far and the medium is ever so slightly too short, it nearly fits but the high will work for sure. Thanks again for the help all. The next step is to find a original or reproduction hand stop for the rifle. Everything else is present and intact but that.

High rings? The lower, the better.

 

Unlikely Ross, but one never knows
Funny thing about that scope, Everything Ive ever put it on has liked it.

 

Now NOT to do it. Drill and tap.

 

Fwiw
For years, decades actually, I followed the low scope mantra and did more than just Ok in field and some 'competition'.
Then I had a whiplash injury that prevented me from shooting at all for some years. Finally was able to return but am not near as flexible in the neck as before.
Surprise, a higher mounted scope is much more comfortable and my score and hits went up from bench to offhand.
If what you want is holes in the right place use the equipment and process that does it For You

 

I just bought a set of 274M offset scope rings from Havelin to mount an old Weaver Challenger scope. It's a long tube scope and put the scope right where I wanted it but didn't have much room to bring it back much further. Nice rings, better than the no name aluminum rings I usually see but they're not what I'd call 'vintage' but they're cheap and they're solid. I usually get Weaver steel rings for vintage rifles but I've never found anything similar in an offset

 

Whelp, I bought two set of Burris steel rimfire "tip-off" rings for grooved rimfire rifles, and wouldn't you know it, neither of them fit. The dovetail on the reciever is ever so slightly smaller. So I dug through 30+ years of random odds and ends of scope rings and each of the rimfire scope rings were the exact same.... Too large by a smidge... Looks like I'll be keeping this with iron sights and putting the K10 back on the M44. Thanks for the help though! I do have the Havlin side mount on that one so I will be able to use old steel Weaver rings to round it out. All in all, it's not so bad having one rifle for shooting with peeps and another scoped... Thanks again for the input all.

 

If they are the airgun rings there should be two extra clamp plates in the package. A set for 3/8" dovetail, and a set for 11mm dovetail. If so, try switching them.

 

Smaller, huh, whats the measurement across the tips of the grooves?

 

I was wondering same thing? Some rimfire rings have a sharper grip on receiver...........!
I wouldn't think the dove tail would be wrong sized??

 

Not sure but I understand some European rifles have a different size dovetail. I did have a Brno #4 that I bought in Europe but I never scoped it.

 

Issue with dovetailed grooved receivers is that they are 'nominal', not exact.
Then there is the measurements, are they taken across the tips/lips or down in the groove.
For quite some time now the 11mm on Euro and 3/8" on US has been close enough that usually just flipping the little lockplate gets the grip (also note that the 3/8" and 11mm use a different angle of the plate).
Some older Euro guns used (iirc) 13mm and 15mm, so one must know which to order/buy, not just go by the brand of rifle.

 

I got the BKL set back from Havlin and they showed up yesterday. Put them on my 144 LSA that I got a few weeks ago, with a Grand Slam 6x20 that I found last week. Did some measuring and comparing as I set them up, and the whole setup will slide off and also work on my Win 69A with just enough room to clear the 80A peep.
Also got a single shot adapter insert from rinardman that semms to work good.
Waiting for good weather.

 

I got the BKL set back from Havlin and they showed up yesterday. Put them on my 144 LSA that I got a few weeks ago, with a Grand Slam 6x20 that I found last week. Did some measuring and comparing as I set them up, and the whole setup will slide off and also work on my Win 69A with just enough room to clear the 80A peep.
Also got a single shot adapter insert from rinardman that semms to work good.
Waiting for good weather.
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Scope looks superb on it. Single shot adapter or short adapter?
I didn't know about rinardman, please tell more.

 

A few years ago one of the 144 series rifles I purchased had what I first thought was a nicely home made or gunsmith made single shot adapters in it.
I discovered it was a feed ramp from a Mossberg 320 series single shot rifle someone had cleverly installed.The Mossberg part number for it is #1291. In these photos from the Damguy stickies it is number 33.
If you decide to install one of these I believe it will take a bit of judicious bending to work correctly.

 

It was a mount I had for a long time so don't remember make. I suspect it was a Chinese knock off. I have worried it was not a good mount but my 100 yard targets show good results. I could not find a 100 target to show you but found a 55 yard with my early 144LSB (no serial #) using peep sight and bad eyes..

 

Next time I show a target, I'll have to use a Loony.

 

I'll have to use a Loony.

That's what some of the neighbors think I am.

I do like this rifle. It's very satisfying to shoot it,

My eyes have issues too but I do like the 144LSB. The scope mounted one was my third Mossberg (early '70s). I first used it with the peep, then put a 2-7 scope on it for shooting gophers but now just use it for target shooting.

 

That's what some of the neighbors think I am.

 

Dudes! Timely information...I've got a 144 T handle coming next week! It's good to be a grown up instead of kid during these "wait for the thing" periods. I've learned to appreciate the anticipation as part of the whole experience, instead of hating it.
I haven't yet checked the old scope stash and bucket o' rings, but I'm hoping I have something decent to put up on there!