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Kimber 82 Government. Do I want this?

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#1 · (Edited)
A friend of mine who owns a local gun shop has offered me a Kimber 82 G for what he gave for it at an estate buy. ($500) I've held the rifle and it all seems to be original as far as I can tell. Condition seems to be 90+% with only a few minor handling marks on the stock (along with the infamous razer cut) Bluing is 95%. Bore looks bright and shiny. Factory sights are intact (although there are no spare front sight inserts) The gun has 3 spacers on it. Serial number is GM00240x. I have zero "need" for this rifle as my days of shooting offhand with Iron sights are long gone due to age and diabetes. I have "a few" CZ 457's, Bergara B14's and a Vudoo 360 that will shot well under MOA when i do my part too. . Still, I wonder if I could fix/replace the trigger, if that massive barrel would make for a decent benchrest rifle starter kit. The idea of a single shot again kind if intrigues me too.
I know there is a ton written on these rifles but I'm just looking for a few quick thoughts. I'm likely going to commit or pass within the next day or two before it goes out on the shelf.
So:
Is that a fair price?
Are parts ( repair or upgrade) still readily available? ( Mostly concerned about trigger upgrade and bolt repair parts)
Is it worth investing in this rifle with hopes of sub MOA groups ( with match ammo) at 50/100 yds or is that optimistic. ?
Anything specific I should be cautious of?
 

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#3 ·
The price is good if the sights etc are there. I only did a spring change in my trigger and it's actually pretty nice. No creep etc and breaks well under 1#. Some are great shooters and some are just ok. Unfortunately mine hasn't impressed me but I think most are happy with how their's shoot
 
#8 · (Edited)
This is really inline with all I have heard. it is not a Winchester or Anschutz. The sights make the price attractive and could be resold if you dont care for how it shoots. The stock would be a nice project.

I had the same opportunity a few times and took a pass. I payed more for the other two names. In the end buying 2nd choice is little saved. I did not even know about the triggers. . Same for H&R I get the two mixed up. For some reason, seems like some of the Kimber barrels varied more than you would expect for this kind of rifle.

If not love at first sights, now you have time to walk away.
 
#12 ·
I bought an 82 G from the CMP that managed to evade the box cutter blade which I cleaned up and put away in the safe. As I recall the trigger wasn't bad, however, I never did any work on it. My plan was to scope it and shoot it off the bench. Years later something came around that I felt I could not do without and it became trading material. This is one that I should have kept. o_O To me, it's one of those iconic rifles that belongs in a collection of classics. ;)

Around here the 82 G's are selling in the $1,000 - $1,200 range which is way more than I would be willing to pay and most do not include the box, paperwork, missing extra front sight inserts, and spacers in some cases. Based on the price mentioned you shouldn't lose anything on your investment depending on trigger modifications "if needed" along with the cost of optics. As already mentioned - some are great shooters others are not as great.

I'd say the decision weighs on your desire to have one in the collection alongside the CZ 457s, the Bergara B14s, and the Vudoo 360. I know you like to tinker a bit so you need to factor that desire into the equation. It's time to plant another seed - You need to add an Anschutz to your collection. I was fortunate to come across a preowned 54.18 MS - It is the baseline "all" my other rimfires are measured against. :D And you know I like my CZs as well as the other brands in the corral. That makes me feel a little better about letting the 82 G go . . . but that itch is still there. :unsure:

Let us know what you decide.
 
#14 ·
I bought an 82 G from the CMP that managed to evade the box cutter blade which I cleaned up and put away in the safe. As I recall the trigger wasn't bad, however, I never did any work on it. My plan was to scope it and shoot it off the bench. Years later something came around that I felt I could not do without and it became trading material. This is one that I should have kept. o_O To me, it's one of those iconic rifles that belongs in a collection of classics. ;)

Around here the 82 G's are selling in the $1,000 - $1,200 range which is way more than I would be willing to pay and most do not include the box, paperwork, missing extra front sight inserts, and spacers in some cases. Based on the price mentioned you shouldn't lose anything on your investment depending on trigger modifications "if needed" along with the cost of optics. As already mentioned - some are great shooters others are not as great.

I'd say the decision weighs on your desire to have one in the collection alongside the CZ 457s, the Bergara B14s, and the Vudoo 360. I know you like to tinker a bit so you need to factor that desire into the equation. It's time to plant another seed - You need to add an Anschutz to your collection. I was fortunate to come across a preowned 54.18 MS - It is the baseline "all" my other rimfires are measured against. :D And you know I like my CZs as well as the other brands in the corral. That makes me feel a little better about letting the 82 G go . . . but that itch is still there. :unsure:

Let us know what you decide.
Like you, I've had a few trades I regret. these days it is the trade of my minty Anny 1903. I gave it up when I stopped with indoor 50 off hand shooting. I never did scope it and now I wish I had, That said, I my replace it someday. I just need to find the right rifle at the right time. I may even sell my Vudoo and finance a new one.
 
#15 ·
82G for $500 where is this store please tell me and I already have one. in 4 years I have not seen an 82G go online below $1000 and locally not one below $900. My Kimber 82G shoots like this in 0 degree weather when testing Lapua Biathlon Xtreme. There was snow and ICE on the ground and I was shooting outdoors.
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#17 · (Edited)
I was going to advise to buy it and if he didn't like it I'd do the favor of buying it.

Worse case scenario - buy it and flip it for a profit.
I bought a biathlon basic in a very similar fashion and it is a keeper.

Mine has the box cutter X2 and the barrel / action was crooked in the stock. Shoot great anyway. I recut the crown because I have the tools anyway. I shoot from position and not a rest, point being it's not a benchrest rifle even though you can adapt it. It is very easy to reconfigure the rifle from bipod / scope to sights / sling. Very enjoyable rifle for me. Not the ultimate .22LR but very much a ton of rifle for the price.
 
#19 ·
The contract acceptance criteria at 50 yards for the 82G was:

3 consecutive 10 shot groups,
measured center to center,
required to average 0.7" or less,
with no group exceeding 0.8".

Kimber found some barrels shot significantly better than that, pulled them from contract delivery, added the 5 pointed star above the serial number, and offered them for commercial sale.

It was built as a position rifle, not a benchrest gun. Refit with the XTSP trigger, it can certainly be a competitive rifle at a club level. I have done that with one with a star barrel. I outfitted it with a Harrell's tuner and Don Stith BR stock. It shoots well, but will not outclass purpose built RFBR rifles like Turbos, 2500X, or high end production guns like Anschutz & Walther.
 
#21 ·
Thanks for the input, I got tied up today and couldn't get by the shop but will stop buy for one more fondle. Based on what I've picked up here, I figure even after tax's ( $535) it seems like a decent deal since it's all original and unmolested. ( No star BTW) Worse case, if it's not a great shooter , I can flip it and get most ( if not all) my $ back . Best case, ill turn it into something to shoot USBR targets with even though I don't have access to local BR competitions. I'm thinking I'll go for it and after a quick range test make it a winter project ( like I didn't have enough already). thanks again, this has all been helpful.
 
#22 ·
Not sure about what its worth as I've been away from this stuff for awhile. But the price seems more than fair to me.

As to the gun itself, plenty of stuff on here that tells you what to do/look for if you want to tinker.

From my experience, if you want a cheaper rifle to shoot targets with, these can do very well. If that's what you're looking for here's what I'd do:
-Take bolt apart and clean well. (See stickies for info on how to do it). Keep the locking lugs and cocking screw greased. Very very important!
-Adjust the trigger with a spring swap. Again, look for info on here. Or, if it has the manual, look in there. Be sure to loosen the side screws on the trigger housing first or you'll strip out where the adjustment screws run through. Retighten when finished adjusting.
-Clean the barrel up real well and just go shoot the thing. Scoping it isn't an issue, so see how it does.

If it does ok, but you think you want better, recrown the barrel. These things are famous for not being so great in that area. It will make a difference. Play with torque on the action screws if you want, but first see how it shoots.

If you really want to go for the gusto, get the aftermarket trigger. It makes a world of difference if you're looking for that last little bit. But, I've shoot mine in sanctioned BR matches and done very well with just the factory trigger. If yours is really a shooter, stick a Harrel tuner on the thing and set it at ~125 and it might blow your mind.

You can do a little or a lot to these. They aren't custom rifles, they aren't Win 52's, 40x's or 54 Annies. But they shoot pretty well. Some shoot very well. Mine shoots about as well as any factory rifle I've owned. And I've owned a couple...

Not promising you the world, but they can be very nice guns for what you're looking to pay.

Good luck

Kenny
 
#23 ·
Not sure about what its worth as I've been away from this stuff for awhile. But the price seems more than fair to me.

As to the gun itself, plenty of stuff on here that tells you what to do/look for if you want to tinker.

From my experience, if you want a cheaper rifle to shoot targets with, these can do very well. If that's what you're looking for here's what I'd do:
-Take bolt apart and clean well. (See stickies for info on how to do it). Keep the locking lugs and cocking screw greased. Very very important!
-Adjust the trigger with a spring swap. Again, look for info on here. Or, if it has the manual, look in there. Be sure to loosen the side screws on the trigger housing first or you'll strip out where the adjustment screws run through. Retighten when finished adjusting.
-Clean the barrel up real well and just go shoot the thing. Scoping it isn't an issue, so see how it does.

If it does ok, but you think you want better, recrown the barrel. These things are famous for not being so great in that area. It will make a difference. Play with torque on the action screws if you want, but first see how it shoots.

If you really want to go for the gusto, get the aftermarket trigger. It makes a world of difference if you're looking for that last little bit. But, I've shoot mine in sanctioned BR matches and done very well with just the factory trigger. If yours is really a shooter, stick a Harrel tuner on the thing and set it at ~125 and it might blow your mind.

You can do a little or a lot to these. They aren't custom rifles, they aren't Win 52's, 40x's or 54 Annies. But they shoot pretty well. Some shoot very well. Mine shoots about as well as any factory rifle I've owned. And I've owned a couple...

Not promising you the world, but they can be very nice guns for what you're looking to pay.

Good luck

Kenny
Who left the back door open?

Long time no words Kenny!
 
#25 ·
$500 is a great price, even with the wear you describe. I bought one from CMP. It was brand new and has the slice, but I put Tru-oil in the slice and then ran the back of my thumbnail down the slice, which closed the cut and it is invisible.

I bought it for one reason only -- it was US-marked, with provenance, and fit into the US part of my military training rifle collection. It shoots well but my Remington 40X USMC rifle shoots better. It is no slouch though.

Kimber original parts are scarce and expensive when you can find them. Aftermarket parts I cannot say, but from the comments sound available. The scope blocks on the barrel are Kimber proprietary and the screw holes are not a match to the classic Unertl standard. Mine wears its Kimber sights or a Redfield 3200 target scope in Kimber of Oregon rings.
 
#27 ·
I’ve shot mine a good bit and really like it. Probably the best deal I ever got from the CMP. I don’t know what the value is these days. A friend bought one last week for 1000 bucks , I told him for a gun of that quality it’s worth it.
 
#29 ·
Would those of you in the know mind explaining to me what this "razor cut" is that some of you are referring to? All I can think of is unnecessary damage caused by an individual using a knife blade while removing the rifle from its packaging, or?

'Inquiring minds and all. Thanks :)
 
#31 ·
I don't have time at the moment to dig up more specific details but at one point the military had to inventory all the rifles and that included confirming serial numbers. The plastic wrappers were opened carelessly with a box cutter (or other sharp object) and most of the stocks were cut as a result