[RimFireGuy07]

I have a complete VQ custom 10/22.
As expected it is more accurate than most but not as accurate as I would like.
Not sure if my expectations are valid, but I am possibly looking to obtain a KIDD rifle to compare the too.
Anyone want to contribute to the KIDD fund and mail me some money?? I will surely let you in on the results.

 

[esfromNY]

Volqi

I made the giant step and got myself a Volqi .. I was concerned initially on the price vs. value.

Kidd was what everybody talked about and I even priced one .. price ended up being the same as the Volqi on a similar set up.

I never shot a kidd myself ... so a comparison may not be fair. I've been shooting Annies for many years and I have been spoiled from their consintency, simplicity, quality and accuracy.

This Volquartsen look good and to my very pleasant surprise shoots good too. After two trips to the range, I am feeling better and better about the purchase.

The pic is from day 2 at the range - less than 200 rounds with her so far, but she did good. A few groups in the red, a couple one holes BUT for what ever reason I get a flyer on #5 shot each time [1/2 inch off POA]

this is the better looking of the groups:

5 shot group, Wolf match Extra, 14x power. The circle is 1 inch diameter. Shot in low wind, rainy & cold day in NY at 50 yards

this is the set up

I am pleased with the Volqi .. quality in the built is there - stock weight and feel is great, quality in the parts is there .. the barrel .. a short and very light one .. but seems to be doing well .. trigger .. well .. early to judge .. not as good as the annie [or maybe it is - it is a matter of getting used to it, like anything else]

 

[ShakeyHand]

I wanted to bump this up to 2017. I have a Volquartsen being built. I won't see it until the fall. I was going to give it to my 2nd grandson. I gave the first grandson a 2014 Browning SA-22 Grade VI because it was the 100th anniversary of JMB's SA-22 and was the year that my first grandson was born.

I didn't know about Kidd when I ordered the Volquartsen even though I live pretty close to Seguin. I have been watching some of the .22 matches on the Long Range Shooters of Utah YouTube channel and there were these semi-auto rifles actually doing better than some Anschutz and CZ's. Turns out they were Kidds. Of course, the shooters had a lot to do with the results but it showed that a good shooter could get excellent results with the semi-autos.

Fast forward and I'm think about also getting a Kidd for my grandson and keeping the Volquartsen.

I would love to hear some opinions about these two fine 22s especially how the 2017 models compare.

 

[elh0102]

I recently bought a Kidd Supergrade. It is the new generation with the longer barrel extension and quick detachable barrel mounting system. I owned a Volquartsen also. I'm hesitant to make this comparison, because my Volquartsen experience is dated, before he was making his own receivers and bolts, so, full disclosure. It was a quality build, and it shot well. The Kidd shoots better, and, as previously mentioned, Tony's trigger is the current state of that art. The new barrel mounting system allows quick and easy removal, either for switching barrels, or cleaning (I find that very handy, much easier to remove and clean the barrel separately than accessing through the rear hole, but you have that option.). I expect the current rifles would compare very closely in performance, with the deciding factor likely to be the individual barrel. The trigger and barrel mounting system of the Kidd, and the tang mounting point, gives makes it the choice for me. One potential disadvantage, the new receiver is considerably longer to accommodate the longer barrel shank, and with the rear tang, bedding in a stock will require some additional mill work.

 

[ShakeyHand]

Thanks and very interesting info. I see Tony is still selling the classic supergrade that is threaded into the receiver. Any thoughts on the accuracy difference between the classic supergrade and the new supergrade?

 

[elh0102]

Thanks and very interesting info. I see Tony is still selling the classic supergrade that is threaded into the receiver. Any thoughts on the accuracy difference between the classic supergrade and the new supergrade?

I have no experience with the threaded receiver Supergrade. But I cannot believe it can be more accurate than my new generation version. With one lot of 10-X, it shoots 50 yard, 5-shot groups that average about .3". I was skeptical, but I believe the longer barrel shank more than offsets anything given up by using locking screws rather than threads. I have had mine completely disassembled several times, including removal of the scope, using Leupold QRW rings, and the POI did not change, which says a lot for the precision of the machining. And the greatly increased ease of maintenance is great, as well as changing barrels if that is in your plans.

 

[supersharp]

Thanks and very interesting info. I see Tony is still selling the classic supergrade that is threaded into the receiver. Any thoughts on the accuracy difference between the classic supergrade and the new supergrade?

I have both Kidd rifles the Supergrade threaded barrel and quick release . I would say both barreled actions have similar accuracy .The only big difference I can see on my original Supergrade it came with the McMillan Sporter stock as to where the new Supergrade comes with a Magpul x22 .I use the McMillan with a front rest whereas the Magpul is used with a bipod and is probably not quite as comfortable .That might give the edge to the original Supergrade for overall accuracy but both rifles are first-rate.

 

[ShakeyHand]

Thanks for the answers!

 

[Ledslnger]

Both are impressive and will make everyone who purchases happy. I buy both, like to support VQ because they are from Iowa. 90m from my childhood home. Great work ethic in Iowa, know that's a fact. If you ever want a 22 pistol for steel challenge VQ beats out Kidd..... ?

 

[Flash_80]

Does Kidd even make anything for pistols?

 

[Ledslnger]

No they don't, just a little joke.

 

[elh0102]

I have both Kidd rifles the Supergrade threaded barrel and quick release . I would say both barreled actions have similar accuracy .The only big difference I can see on my original Supergrade it came with the McMillan Sporter stock as to where the new Supergrade comes with a Magpul x22 .I use the McMillan with a front rest whereas the Magpul is used with a bipod and is probably not quite as comfortable .That might give the edge to the original Supergrade for overall accuracy but both rifles are first-rate.

I wasn't sure I would like the X-22 stock, but I really do. With the additional comb risers and other accessories, it offers a lot of flexibility. I think any difference in accuracy between the new and old Supergrades would probably be traced to the individual barrel.

 

[ShakeyHand]

Lots of good information here so thanks! I don't think I could go wrong with either of these rifle makers. Both will shoot better than I can although maybe they will help me shoot a little better because I can definitely stop blaming it on the gun.

 

[rwadley]

Does Kidd even make anything for pistols?

They make 10 & 12" barrels for Charger type pistols

 

[ShakeyHand]

I will be able to provide some insight in about a week. My Volquartsen arrived today - three months earlier than I expected. I also ordered a Kidd new style Supergrade match rifle today and was told it will be here probably next week or in two weeks at the latest.

I can't wait to take them to the range and put them through their paces.

The Volquartsen is a thumb hole laminate target stock with a snake fluted bull barrel and forward blow compensator. The Kidd will be about the same except no fluting on the bull barrel and a Magpul x22 stock. Ought to be very interesting and a lot of fun to see how they compare.

 

[DrGunner]

I will be able to provide some insight in about a week. My Volquartsen arrived today - three months earlier than I expected. I also ordered a Kidd new style Supergrade match rifle today and was told it will be here probably next week or in two weeks at the latest.

I can't wait to take them to the range and put them through their paces.

The Volquartsen is a thumb hole laminate target stock with a snake fluted bull barrel and forward blow compensator. The Kidd will be about the same except no fluting on the bull barrel and a Magpul x22 stock. Ought to be very interesting and a lot of fun to see how they compare.

Does the Kidd have a compensator?

 

[elh0102]

Does the Kidd have a compensator?

I think it is about a $100 option.

 

[crackedcornish]

Does Kidd even make anything for pistols?

http://www.coolguyguns.com/Pistol-Barrels_c_15.html

 

[ShakeyHand]

Does the Kidd have a compensator?

Yes and it looks very much like the Volquartsen. The Volquartsen looks like the ports are angled a little more forward because it is a forward blow compensator. Volquartsen also makes a standard compensator that should be very similar to the Kidd comp.

 

[acechanley]

I would also throw in Tactical Solutions in the mix with Kidd and volquartsen. My recent build utilizes a tac sol receiver and bolt, Kidd ulw barrel & single stage trigger (the best!). The tacsol receiver is very nice and performs excellent with the Double spring. Fit and finish is great.
Ace


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