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Kidd vs Volquartsen

2K views 23 replies 13 participants last post by  Chief Dave  
#1 ·
How does the Kidd trigger perform as a replacement for the volquartsen trigger?
 
#2 ·
There is no contest the Kidd trigger is the best of the best as far as triggers go. I replaced my Volquartsen TG2000 with the Kidd. Don't get me wrong, the Volquartsen TG2000 is a good trigger group with a trigger pull of 2.0-2.5 lbs. The Kidd Super Match that replaced it breaks at 6 ozs. It took some getting used to a trigger that light but it has improved my shooting. Now you just have to decide if it is worth the extra bucks for you to own the best.
 
#3 ·
kenbo

If your building a match rifle, the Kidd is the way to go. Any other uses, plinker, hunting etc. I would suggest going other routes. The Kidd trigger is unmatched at this point with the Jewell being the only thing coming close.

Dave Z.
 
#7 ·
I have a Amt Custom Shop I went through two Jewel triggers under warranty the second one they refused to fix. They are a fundamentally flawed design, if I had known how they were designed I would never have owned one. Jewell makes good benchgun 2oz triggers but the 10/22 was a lemon. The kiid is engineered from the KISS principle it is not much more complicated than a Ruger trigger but it is an extremely elegant design mine has a 7oz 1st stage and a 7oz 2nd stage for a total pull weight of 14oz's. My rifle is suppressed and with a leupold 4.5-14x50 nad mildot reticle it is lethal on bunny's out to 150+m.
In 3550 rounds I have never had a trigger malfunction.
Tony Kidd's trigger could best be described as a work of art/engineering.

Cheers,
Craig.
 
#8 ·
comparing a Kidd to a VQ is like comparing Dale Earnhardt's Monte Carlo to a Yugo for speed. :D

there is no comparison, VQ makes a nice trigger group, but the Kidd is even nicer. Both have their reasons for existing and applications though.
 
#9 ·
What I think has been missed mostly in the responses so far except for GMSFixer is, unless you are wanting the ultimate target\competition gun, The extra money for a KIDD unit is mostly a waste. The VQ is a very good unit and great for hunting\plinking purposes. I would argue that the KIDD has too light of a pull for hunting puposes but maybe that's just MHO
 
#10 ·
Hi Dude,
I only use my KIDD for hunting and I am completely happy with a 14oz trigger on my rabbit rifle. The Mcmillan STC stock is very nice to shoot with and I can't hit rabbits off hand with any other rifle trigger combinations. As I move onto target I am already taking up the first 7oz's and when mr bunny rabbit sits still it is very easy to apply the last 7oz's and send him off to bunny heaven. This makes hunting much easier where you have figgity rabbits that won't sit still for long.
 
#14 ·
I have a couple of Kidd's and all I

can say is that it makes shoot'in a 10/22
a whole lot 'sweeter'. :)

After work'in all the home remendies
on the factory triggers and buy'in more than my share of all the after market
parts,along comes the best trigger ever
made.

Wish I had have gotten one sooner. :)

One thing about the Kidd,you can never
go back.

Well you can, but you are not going to
like it. :D
 
#15 ·
Hey CraigV

I am completely happy with a 14oz trigger on my rabbit rifle
Like I said, maybe it's just a personal thing but I don't want a trigger that light on gun I'm going through the woods with loaded. I'm glad it works for you and glad we all have options.

When I do my own version of the "Ultimate 10/22" it will have a KIDD unit in it but I won't be toteing that gun around in the woods.

Out of curiousty, have any of you tried to slam fire 10/22 with a Kidd unit? (butt fire - what ever you want to call it, basically, take your cocked 10/22 with a round in the chamber and slam (within reason) the butt of the rifle against the ground). I've heard a lot of horror stories about guns with light triggers going off by being bumped hard. Maybe they were all home done trigger jobs?
 
#16 ·
Dude said:
Hey CraigV

Out of curiousty, have any of you tried to slam fire 10/22 with a Kidd unit? (butt fire - what ever you want to call it, basically, take your cocked 10/22 with a round in the chamber and slam (within reason) the butt of the rifle against the ground). I've heard a lot of horror stories about guns with light triggers going off by being bumped hard. Maybe they were all home done trigger jobs?
Dude, :eek: Safty test with a live round in the chamber??? Are you trying for this years Darwin award or what?

I also hunt with my KIDD equipt 10-22, finest trigger on the market.... mine is set a little heavier than that, at 20 oz, but to say that you would'nt be in the woods with a trigger that can be adjusted from (directly off the KIDD website)
6oz up to 3.25 lbs. makes me wonder about how heavy you need a trigger to be to feel safe in the woods???

Yes I have cocked the rifle EMPTY and rapped it on the ground, no fires, safty also performs as suposed to.

Don't nock a product till you've at least done a little reaserch to see what it's really about.

Kevin
 
#17 ·
First off numbnuts (Kevin) you had no reason to get snotty so screw you! :mad:

Dude, Safty test with a live round in the chamber??? Are you trying for this years Darwin award or what?
- Who said anything about a "Live round"? I don't dryfire my guns, maybe you do? (not that I care what you do with your guns) Maybe your right, a spent round is not really needed for this test but it amazes you couldn't just express your opinion without being an @sshole about it :rolleyes:

can be adjusted from (directly off the KIDD website) 6oz up to 3.25 lbs. makes me wonder about how heavy you need a trigger to be to feel safe in the woods???
- First off what would make me feel safe would be knowing idiots like you weren't out there with loaded guns. Barring that, I still see no need for a trigger lighter than 2-3lbs for a hunting gun. If you do, maybe you should practice some more? The KIDD unit can be adjusted to 3.25lbs? Wonderful but who the hell wants to adjust their trigger every time they go hunting? If you were going to leave it adjusted in the 2-3lbs range, than why not save some money and buy the VQ?

Whatever, do what you want but I felt the original poster needed to know he didn't need a $300 trigger for his purposes. The VQ is more than good enough for his needs.
 
#18 ·
Easy there Dude. I follow you, but after reading your post regarding slamfire, I too thought you meant live round. Ordinarilly, the use of the word "round," refers to live ammo. When refering to a spent round, "empty," "case," & "spent round" are used.

I did not see Kevin's post as a flame, more of a little ribbing. I'm sure that this can be handled a little smoother than it is going. We try to have fun here..not kick each other in the jewels.:t
 
#19 ·
Dude said:
First off numbnuts (Kevin) you had no reason to get snotty so screw you! :mad:

- Who said anything about a "Live round"? I don't dryfire my guns, maybe you do? (not that I care what you do with your guns) Maybe your right, a spent round is not really needed for this test but it amazes you couldn't just express your opinion without being an @sshole about it :rolleyes:

- First off what would make me feel safe would be knowing idiots like you weren't out there with loaded guns. Barring that, I still see no need for a trigger lighter than 2-3lbs for a hunting gun. If you do, maybe you should practice some more? The KIDD unit can be adjusted to 3.25lbs? Wonderful but who the hell wants to adjust their trigger every time they go hunting? If you were going to leave it adjusted in the 2-3lbs range, than why not save some money and buy the VQ?

Whatever, do what you want but I felt the original poster needed to know he didn't need a $300 trigger for his purposes. The VQ is more than good enough for his needs.
# 1 just saying round, you "have" indicated a loaded and ready to fire cartridge. the emphatic combacks you see to some things that are regareded as unsafe, may not be directed completely at you! We get a lot of lurkers here, that are young and impressionable, and in reading your words could very easily become confused to your intent! as to dry firing, I don't, BUT for Rugers, due to thier design it is safe, it will not damage thier firing pin.

Your right, my reply may have been a litttle harsh, some of it was jest, I believe that most of us here are inteligent responsible adults, my concern is for those who may happen upon this post, who don't know better, do some trigger work on thier own, and thinking it is appropriate, load a live round and try the above test.

Dude I appologize for offending you personally, but remember, there are alot of people here, seen and unseen who take the advise implied and unimplied

safe shooters protect us all

Kevin
 
#20 ·
Kevin,

I accept your apology and offer my own. I felt that you were personally attacking me and I responded in kind. I see now that was not your intent so I apologize for "flying off the handle". If we knew each other or were talking in person, this probably wouldn't have happened. Just one of the downsides of internet "discusions".

I will also apologize for the wording of my description of a "slam fire test" (is that the correct term?). I don't doubt that it could be taken the wrong way.

Thanks moorespeedr for your input as well.

Dude
 
#21 ·
Dude, I agree, alot is gained from this internet, but alot is lost as well :( sometimes it's an unfortunate misunderstanding of nothing other than wording from one part of the counrty to the other, or facial expressions that can't be read.

I just posted this to another thread, and it applies here as well, I've made some good friends here, from around the country and the world, that come into my livingroom to share information, but unfortunatly I can't take any of them shooting :( pro's and cons I guess

Kevin