Take down? Under 5 lbs.? Crosman 392 variable pump .22 is light and compact/short but not really take down. I know you said rifle but I'd also consider the Crosman pump pistol. Accurate enough for squirrel and easy to pack. Jmho

 

I did not know they made pump pistols, thanks will check it out.

 

Not a springer or piston so maybe not what you are looking for, but...

Have you thought about the Marauder Pistol?

It comes with a stock that makes it into a carbine. As a "pistol" it fits into a pack. It is light and depending on how you tune it can be good for 16 to 24+ shots before you have to recharge it. Minute of squirrel out to about 30 yards or so.

 

It is the perfect size but not self cocking. Thank you

 

Check here. .22 cal. and available shoulder stock.
http://www.crosman.com/airguns/pistols/1322C
Mine in .177 is very accurate.

 

I used an old Sheridan Blue Streak for many years that did a nice job on both squirrels and rabbits. It's still made, of course, but it's a 20. The otherwise similar Benjamin 392 is a 22, though.

I like the Marauder pistol recommendation. I shoot the Marauder in the rifle and love it and have been eyeballing the pistol. The pistol version gets you some serious velocity and that optional stock gets you your TD feature. Just a matter of whether you want to deal with the external air supply.

 

Thanks I will check out the Sheridan as well.

 

ive got the marauder pistol with a collapsible ar style stock on it and really like it. You can get a doubletube added to it to increase the number of shots or to dial up the power and still get a reasonable number of shots. Mine is super accurate with the right pellets (it seems to like the larger headed pellets).

 

I think that is a really cool pistol but could it stay charged for 7 to 10 days?

 

More options . . .

The Chinese QB 57 in .22 bore is take-down springer and is NOT light, about 7 lbs. Breaks down into a satchel sized package though, I call it an urban hunter.

This is it assembled.

I think that 392 above sounds really good, especially if peep sights are installed on it. Very light package. I have a Crosman 1377 as well - the stock really does help with accuracy as stated above.

Good luck with your choice.

 

Hi PGTMG,

I am an avid hiker had have harvested game with airguns for years. The 392 is supreme, yet my Sheridan Blue Streak (.20 cal) with aperture sights is amazing.

My .20 Beeman P1 pistol is a delightful meat-getter. Spring-pistons are fussy and a little high-maintenance and it is kept in a ziplock bag while hiking/backpacking.

Recently picked up a 1322 and plan to modify it with a flat piston & valve. The trigger is crude and sights are not as nice as the P1 or Peep on the Sheridan, but it can take more rain than the P1. A stock is available for the 1322.

The .20 cal P1 is quiet, powerful for its size and capable of accurate pellet placement--even wild turkey.

"Practice, practice, practice - the search for accuracy never stops!"

Keep us posted.

Swampy'

 

Check out the crosman doomsday kit it basically a 1322 with a longer barrel and a quick detach stock add a flat top valve and piston and you should be good to go

 

Due to weight and the easy remove butt stock I think this is it. I saw a Trail NP pistol but this kit a 22 and has proven history.

Thank you all for you responses :bthumb:

Now what does a flat top valve and piston do for this rig?

 

It increases the power. Check out crosman air pistol owner forum for a ton of info on the 1377 family of airguns

 

One other possibility is the 2400k or one of its many variants. It is a small, light pistol that can take a detachable shoulder stock. You can have the barrel length made to order. It is a C02 gun but it gives enough shots per cartridge that a couple of cartridges would do all the shooting you would want with CO2 to spare on an overnight trip (30 or so shots a cartridge). It comes in .22 or .177. Both can dispatch rabbit and squirrel sized game. It can also be customized with a power adjuster to make it more powerful.

http://www.crosman.com/custom-shop

The Marauder Pistol will hold a charge indefinitely when the gun is in working order. However, 20 shots or so is all you can get without adding an extra air reservoir.

 

IIRC the above QB57, in 22, has a mild mannered velocity of 550 pfs...close shots on live game would be a must with this rifle, but it is a springer.

 

Sounds about right, its definitely not a 'high stepper' in velocity category. Its about on par with my Daisy 822 or Mendoza RM-200, if judging on sound of pellet 'smack' to target. Keeping it within 20 - 25 yards would be a good idea.

 

My next air gun purchase will be a flat top valve and piston for my 2289 if not a steel breech for my 1377.

I'm tellin' you, this air gun addiction may be more insidious than was my CZ addiction.

 

Take a look at this one from Crosman. They seem to have been reading your mind.

http://www.crosman.com/airguns/rifles/pump/30061

 

Crosman Backpacker

I don't think they are made anymore, but still being sold used. The backpacker was essentially a 1377 in .22 cal with a larger cocking handle, longer barrel and quick disconnect / reconnect stock via a spring loaded pin.
I had one that someone had modified a bit to hold and incorporate the pressure of a few extra pumps.

I like the idea of something that can break down and be packed away out of site in the back pack. A gunstock sticking out of a backpack might bring varied responses from those you pass on a trail.

As much as I am completely converted to PCP's I like the idea of only being limited to the number of shots I can take by how many pellets I have with me..

 

Back in the day the Beeman C-1 (Webley manufactured) was the shizzy! Good power in .22 and very compact. Difficult to find these days, but worth the hunt. Yes, it's a bit into the upper end of the scale with regard to cocking force, but you get used to it. No seals to leak out (like PCP), and quick follow-up shots. (No pumping multiple times)

http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2009/05/beeman-c1-part-1-rifle-that-created.html

 

I have a C1, but its the .177 version, a safety on the left side of action. Great little lightweight springer, but its not a take-down model. Pretty accurate little guy.

I had no idea there was an earlier version - I appreciate that link above, I learned a lot about C1s.

 

Pack Pistol

Many a squirrel, quail, and other edibels dropped with this pistol. Had a levi pant leg I made into a shoulder holster...Ahh the memories! Pete

Just google" Benjamin pump pistol Pics" you'll see the white pearl style handled one I packed as a Kid in the 60's........

 

Under a thread title of 'springer or piston"

I am researching for a good air rifle for hiking and kayaking ...
Here are top priorities.

Reliable
Rugged
Powerful enough for rabbit sized game (.22)
Iron sights
Capable of minute of squirrel.

Would like.

Shortest possible over all length.
Reasonable weight (less than 5lbs)
Take down ability

Let's look at this logically:

Steel is heavier than air. Advantage: pumper [not "piston" They're called pumpers.]

Spring-piston ["springers"] air guns favor [almost require] lighter pellets. Pumpers can effectively utilize heavier pellets. Hunting needs favor heavier pellets. Advantage: pumper

Reliability: it's a wash. Advantage: both/neither.

Accuracy: Ammunition dependent. Take your time on testing & be willing to $pend your money on the right pellet for your air gun. Advantage: neither

Iron sights: Find something w/ a 11mm or 3/8" dovetail rail so you can choose from among many aftermarket airgun or rimfire sight options. Most mass-market airguns & rimfires come with what can at best be described as "basic" open sights, but a decent peep sight w/ repeatable settings can be had for <$60. Advantage: everyone

Take down ability: This is the kicker. Since we've already pretty much eliminated springers, I'll come right out & say it: about the only airgun I'm aware of that really satisfies your criteria are the Crosman 1322 pistol w/ their detachable rifle stock, or the "Bugout Kit" 1389 [recently reintroduced in the past year after being OOP for a few years.]

Save yourself the hassle of cobbling together your own kit & just look for the 1389 Bugout kit [I got one last summer on special from Academy Sports, but I'm sure you can find several sources at this time of year, altho' it's too late to get one under the tree for Christmas by now, I should think...]

The Crosman 13xx/22xx series of guns have a couple of decades worth of modding & aftermarket support for them, so you can customize them almost as much as a Ruger 10/22. The difference btw the 13xx and the 22xx series is that the former are pumpers and the latter are CO2-driven, but they share a lot of parts commonality, such as stocks, receivers, barrels, sights, etc.

Crosman makes a steel receiver [standard equipment is plastic, to keep the original purchase price down] that has dovetail grooves and a flat mount for their accessory sights as well, but there are plenty of aftermarket vendors offering more of the same, to the tune of receivers alone costing more than the complete original gun. Do your research: it's entirely possible to BYO out of purely aftermarket accessories, if you wanted to go that route.

But for your needs, the 1389BK should satisfy your requirements out of the box, with the options to upgrade the receiver, sights and barrel length [1389s before they went OOP came w/ 14" barrels; the re-released models come w/ 12" barrels to keep the power down so they can be sold in Canuckistan w/o requiring licensing. Gas-driven airguns typically benefit from longer barrels (greater expansion ratio) so an 18" barrel might be in your future if you want more power.]

Best of luck in your decision, but as Pig Buttons pointed out, it seems that Crosman has already targeted the requirements of your particular market segment. :bthumb:

 

Seems that, if you want a springer, the QB57 shown above in the plastic case is the gun. I'm 60 now and have lots of experience shooting smokeless powder firearms and hand loading etc, and I have a tough time getting a springer to not **** me off to the point of throwing it into the bushes. Should never have bought the magnum level Crosman Phantom. However, I have CO2 rifles and multi pump rifles and pistols that are tack drivers. For me, then, I would consider the Crosman Bugout Kit. Iy comes with a Model 1322, but with a longer barrel (I think a 12"?), and a new rifle stock. The normal rifle stock attaches with 2 screws that the pistol grips use. The Bugout model is a quick release system. Very slick. It also comes with a cheap backpack. Now, the sights on the 1377/1322 series work all right when using these guns as pistols. But, when I installed the rifle stock to my 1377, it brought the sights much closer to my eyes and that makes the rear sight gap way too wide. I tried the Crosman Intermounts and put a BSA dot scope on it. But the barrel will rotate a little with a scope on it. It is shootable and can even be accurate. The real fix would be to buy the steel breech and replace the plastic one with that. Then you have many options for scopes and mounts and open sights.

There is also the Crosman Custom Shop. You can go to the web site and choose components for either a pistol or rifle that is CO2 powered. I have a Custom Shop carbine that is a tack driver AND I took a trouble making rooster with one shot at about 15 yards with a Crosman Hunter .177 pellet. A brain shot. It ran about 15 yards and dropped dead. Roosters are hard to kill, but my carbine did the job.

Or the Crosman 2300T CO2 air pistol, which already has the steel breech. It's a .177 caliber though.

If you are proficient with springers, then I am jealous. Maybe I'll get it some day.

 

I agree, birdmove. I can only shoot springers fairly well if I get in the same position and hold the gun the same way each time. With a pump or CO2 gun, I can shoot more accurately in almost any position and holding the gun however is needed for the position.