Mine is Fine!

gun freak00,

I purchased mine about 6 months ago with the magnum cylinder.
Compared to the Ruger it does look like a less expensive pistol BUT after shooting it it doesn'r seem any less than the Ruger. If one takes care of it should provide many years of good service. I'm still testing mine for accuracy using various 22 long rifles bullets and haven't tried the magnum cylinder yet. If your pocket book is tight I see no reason why you shouldn't consider the Heritage Rough Rider revolver. On the other hand I too have a Ruger Super Single Six revolver and it's a rock solid pistol that'll last just as long. Both will last longer than you and I anyway and after were long gone it won't matter. No need to respond. I'm ready for te holidays.

wmrimfire,22

 

hey thanks for the info,barrowed my brothers single six today and took my son to the range by ourselves (manly day) and he did very well with it .A single action is the way to go. Since you have a rough rider, how much do you think it could be shortened. I can cut the barrel and move the sight myself to lighten it up or would it be worth it? The only one's Iv'e seen are in the 6 in. size or do they make them smaller? It is nice to hear somthing about it rather than flying blind. I gladly accept help and thank you for your time

 

hey thanks for the info,barrowed my brothers single six today and took my son to the range by ourselves (manly day) and he did very well with it .A single action is the way to go. Since you have a rough rider, how much do you think it could be shortened. I can cut the barrel and move the sight myself to lighten it up or would it be worth it? The only one's Iv'e seen are in the 6 in. size or do they make them smaller? It is nice to hear somthing about it rather than flying blind. I gladly accept help and thank you for your time

They do make four-inch barrel version.

Dad's Heratige would consistently misfire on one spot in the cylinder. It seemed as if the shoulder was cut too deeply and the shell wasn't being reached by the firing pin.

The firing pin also marked the cylinder where it hit, which made me wonder who much abuse the pin was taking.

I would say that a Heratige would be a decent buy for a kid, but there's a huge leap in the difference between it and a Ruger, IMO.

 

This pistol is poorly made from very cheap materials.

They will last a 100 round a year shooter a lifetime but they will not hold up to constant shooting.

Compared to a Ruger Single Six they are JUNK.

 

I looked at the Heritage revolvers. They are nice for the price. A Ruger will cost a lot more money and both are good shooters from what I have been told. I prefer the Ruger Single Six with the adj. sights. But it costs a lot more money than the Heritage. My 2c.

 

Jimmy Mack,
They will last a 100 round a year shooter a lifetime but they will not hold up to constant shooting. Compared to a Ruger Single Six they are JUNK.

How do you know this? Have you had one or any real experience with one, or are you a ruger fan and nothing else will do? Not trying to be a ******** but I need people for good or bad have owned one or shot one alot. I know they are cheap but that's why I am thinking about getting one for my little boy. If it will last safely for a few years then I can get him a ruger, but for now let him beat up a cheap gun. If it is a total peace of sh**, I can start looking at other alternatives.

 

Ruger Single Six

gun freak00,

IMHO, your best bet would be to look for and buy a good used "Ruger" Single Six....! ! There are lots of them 'out there', and they maybe had for about what you would pay for the Heritage....! !

I have seen them at gun shows for ~ $150. in very good condition...! !

 

Originally posted by gun freak00
How do you know this? Have you had one or any real experience with one, or are you a ruger fan and nothing else will do? Not trying to be a ******** but I need people for good or bad have owned one or shot one alot. I know they are cheap but that's why I am thinking about getting one for my little boy. If it will last safely for a few years then I can get him a ruger, but for now let him beat up a cheap gun. If it is a total peace of sh**, I can start looking at other alternatives.

No I do not and have not ever owned one. As a part time gunsmith and experienced shooter and a man of average intelligence I know a POS when I see one and so I know better than buy one.

I know of too many other people that have problems with them and I have seen enough of them come into my shop with broken parts.

One of our local dealers has sold several of these things. He got tired of people bringing them back and complaining so he will no longer stock them.

I really could care less if you believe me or not. You asked and I responded with the truth.

They are not a long term gun and will not hold up to a lot of shooting.

 

i put atleast 1000 rounds through mine every year. i will go on a binge shooting it alot, then it will sit in the gun cabinet and not be fired for 6 months. for the price i don't think you can beat them. have only shot about 500 rounds through the magnum cylinder. i like mine, but wish i would have gotten the one with adjustable sights. the only problem mine has is if i lower the hammer slowly i can get it to stick in place. but normal firing it doesn't stick. decent gun for a decent price.

 

jimmy mac

Now this is the kind of advise I was looking for. If you have seen a good amount of bad ones and your dealer quit selling them, this makes sense. The kind and conciderate (not) dealer in the area where I live said he quit selling them and would give me a heck of a deal on the last one he had. He said they just weren't selling good and he wouldn't order one for me. Did not mean to piss off, if I did it wasn't on purpose. I thank you for your time and info.

 

big mike

I also would like to thank you for your 2 cents. In your case it is worth $50. You are a gentalmen and well respected member of this fourm. Mushy crap aside, I looked at SGN, gunlist, auction arms,gunbroked,called all gun&pawns,checked the last 5 gunshows and have yet to find a used one cheaper than new. Are the old ones made of gold or somthing The gun we barrowed from my brother,turns out to be a 99%3 screw flat top(what ever the hell that means). He got it from his neibor when her husband died for $100. Now he doesen't want us putting hundreds of rounds through it, imagine that.

 

For around $100 to $125 you can find an older used H&R revolver.

A 30 year old H&R with 50,000 rounds through it will out last a new Heritage and is better quality in EVERY way.

They are not known to be target grade pistols but for plinking with your son they will do anything you need them to do and later if you trade it in for something better you can get your money back out of it.

If you can't find a reasonably priced used Ruger the old H&R will work.

 

I have a HERITAGE single action in a gray color with adjustable target sights. It's auccuracy is fine and hasn't given me any problems as of this time. Don't know about others but I like mine just fine, think I got a good little revolver for the price. It has the alloy frame but will last with care. HERITAGE has a steel frame for a few dallors more which should make them better able to compare with higher priced ones. The RUGER is a nice one can't be denied. It cost considerly more but hearing a lot of owners say accuracy be luck of the draw. I hear a lot about not being able to hold any kind of pattern with any brand of ammo. Some day not to long I hope I'll get me a ruger single six but will still have my Heritage as long as it does'nt fail which don't see that happen at this time. Has about 2200 rounds of lr and about 1000 rounds of 22mag through it and is better than new. Just broken in I guess.

 

TeePee...Was the luck of the draw statement you made about accuracy with the Ruger or Heritage? Cause I've got a Heritage .17hmr and so far it hasn't been able to hold a pattern at all with CCI or Hornady, needless to say I'm starting to get a little worried. Going to try the Remington ammo with it and cross my fingers. My buddy said that I should have waited until I had enough for the Ruger Single Six but I did'nt want too.

 

squawkc it was the RUGER. I'm not professing to be an expert at this are anything else. Just my opion from those I know that have are have had a RUGER single six(a good one is a very nice one ) . Of the three that I have had experience with , were not my own, two were accurate with in 20 to 30 yards. One was not as it had a 1 to 3 inch spread at this distance. 2 out of three I know ain"t bad. My be the same or worse with the Heritage. Don't know about the 17. Although it's a rimfire I think it's of a differnt proportion. Just to say mine (a Heritage) is well worth the price I paid so far. Another 1000 rounds could change my mind.

 

Quality

The quality is remembered long after the price has been forgotten. Pay the price, get the Ruger single six with 2 cylinders. Get the one without adjustable sights. Mine shoots to the point of aim, no problemo. I plink at fired shotgun shells and hit them frquently. Beer cans are easy. What more do you want? Every time I "cheap out" I end up buying the more expensive one later. You won't save money buying the cheap one. Alternatively, get a Bearcat.:t

JM

 

Three Screw Rugers

gun freak00,

Are the old ones made of gold or somthing? The gun we barrowed from my brother, turns out to be a 99% 3 screw flat top(what ever the hell that means).

In 1973, Ruger redesigned the internal lockwork of their single action revolvers to make them more "idiot proof", ie, they put a hammer block safety transfer bar into the system, so that the hammer does not contact the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled. This is to make the revolver "safe" to carry with all six rounds loaded. 'Old timers' all know that you never carry any single action revolver with a loaded round under the hammer; so, it is effectively a "five shooter"...! !

Therefore, the earlier revolvers with the "Colt" type lockwork are considered more authentic, and therefore more valuable...! ! These are the "three screw" Ruger's...! ! I have never heard the term "Flat Top" used with a Single Six; it applies to the Blackhawk centerfire revolvers, of which, I have three "Flat Tops"...! !

The 'new & improved' lockwork has two pins in place of the "three screws". These revolvers are fine shooters, and much safer to handle than the early "three screw" models, especially for a new and young user.

Hey, it is all in how you were trained.....! ! I never had any problem with the Winchester M94's with the 'half-cock' position on the hammer. Today's M94's have a "Safety", as do the Marlin 336's....! !

Hope this helps....! !

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Good or Bad

Hello to all,

I hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving day and at least one day after. Getting back to this revolver issue. I have no idea how long mine will last in the long run however my opinion is that I've seen many revolver and pistols that regardless of the cost wether it be expensive or not can give outstanding service with out being sent back for repair. Let's face it even Ruger has made lemons! That's what happens in a production gun. Look around you. Every factory. Company or Corporation has cut there staff where we are all doing two jobs for the same pay. That makes every gun factory gulity of making a revolver with some form of defect much higher than before. Simple rule. If it's broken send it back to the factory to be fixed. One will never know until you try it.
Your call. It's your pocket book and no one elses.

wmrimfire,22

 

Economical Revolver

I purchased a new EAA Small Bore Bounty Hunter in blue steel with both 22 LR and 22 WMR cylinders earlier this year for $199 in a local gun store. (I think EAA's suggested retail price is about $270.) The gun is German made with very good fit and finish, and I have now put about 2000 rounds through it with no problems. My gun has a 6.75 in barrel and 6-shot cylinders, but EAA offers options including a shorter barrel, 9-shot cylinder, and nickel finish.

I also recently purchased a used (1990) 6-in Taurus Model 96 in very good condition for $175. This gun is a clone of the the S&W Model 17 K-frame 22 revolver. You can't really go wrong with a used Taurus because they have a lifetime warranty that Taurus stands behind.

 

You mentioned it was for your young son so I'll add one other note about the heritage. It has an external safety right beside the hammer. Other lesser known brands may have one but this is the only SA revolver that I for sure know has one. By the way, $120 for a boxed Heritage Rough Rider will be hard to beat. I bet if you look, you'll find a coupon for some free ammo in there too. Some even ship with a holster if your dealer orders them that way.

 

SIX SHOOTER !!!

I've had about 10 to 12 of these guns .22lr , .22mag. & .17 cal. The guns hve done all i have ask of them , plus made me some money ! Not all people are going to spend the money to have a Ruger six shooter ! I think from all i know about them they are a good buy for the money !!

OLDMAN56

 

big mike

Thanks for the safty info.Neither my brother and I did not know about the safty issue. Granted I'm one of those guys that cant bring myself to holster my guns for fear of ruining the finishes, but none the less it is nice to know. My grandfather holstered his 1911at the gun range and in the woods for as long as I could remember and dam neer rubbed the finish off, but he carryed it in the war (ww2)and till the day he passed it was on his nite stand. Luckly grandma gave it to me, I took it to be refinished and the smith refused to do it,he said it would deminish the value because it is a war model 1911 made by the singer co. I have never heard of that co. making guns? So I left it how he did and it still shoots good.

 

Singer 1911

gun freak00,

"Singer", as in the 'Singer Sewing Machine Company', made 1911's for the US Gov't.....! ! They are one of the most collectable of the 1911's, as there are so few 'real' "Singer" 1911's...! !

If you think about it, who could better make all the small parts required for a pistol than a sewing machine company, just as IBM, a typewriter company, made M1 .30 Carbines during WWII...! !

"Smith Corona", another typewriter company, made 1903A3's for the War Effort...! !

"Guide Lamp", a lighting division of GM, made the Liberator Pistol, a single shot .45 ACP, and the M3 'Grease Gun', a .45 ACP SMG that cost less than $5. at the time.....! !

The list goes on.......

 

so I guess I should not keep shooting it then? It still shoots pretty well (imsure it's more accurate than I). Guess I'll go back to the .22's. As always thanks mike.

 

Singer 1911

gun freak00,

If you would like more info on your Dad's Singer 1911, may I suggest you visit Jouster's CSP 1911/1911A1 Pistol Forum [< Link] and ask the experts....! !

Note all the markings on the slide and frame, and the SN as 12345XX in your Post. You will get a lot of good info, and, of course, a few "wacko's" will reply....! !

Hope this helps...! !

Good Luck...! !

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