If you have tried them, how are they? Are they reliable? I saw 2 sizes available.
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I'm testing the PM 22 round magazines (2) right now I've just started my test runs but I have a few thoughts I'll share with you now.
1. Quality. These magazines are cheap. I won't be breaking them down for maintenance or any other reason.
2. There's a "hitch" that I've encountered everytime I load these magazines. I'll load a few rounds (7-11 more or less) into the magazine when I'll encounter strong resistance trying to keep me from continuing the reloading process. The solution is to overcome this resistance and continue to reload the magazine.
3. Both magazines will load to their capacity (22 rds).
4. Both magazines have performed very well, no FTF, etc. after 88 rounds each using CCI Blazer and Aquila Super Extra ammunition.
5. Inexpensive. $11.99 each.
So guys.... that's my initial thoughts and impressions so far. If I don't get back to you with my results...at least I got you pointed in the right direction.
1. Quality. These magazines are cheap. I won't be breaking them down for maintenance or any other reason.
2. There's a "hitch" that I've encountered everytime I load these magazines. I'll load a few rounds (7-11 more or less) into the magazine when I'll encounter strong resistance trying to keep me from continuing the reloading process. The solution is to overcome this resistance and continue to reload the magazine.
3. Both magazines will load to their capacity (22 rds).
4. Both magazines have performed very well, no FTF, etc. after 88 rounds each using CCI Blazer and Aquila Super Extra ammunition.
5. Inexpensive. $11.99 each.
So guys.... that's my initial thoughts and impressions so far. If I don't get back to you with my results...at least I got you pointed in the right direction.
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Update on PM22 Magazines.
I was thrilled by the performance of the Promag PM22 that I ordered two (2) more from Bud's.
Upon receiving my order, I began to load each magazine with ammunition and discovered I could only load 6-7 rounds in each magazine.
I sent a email to the company and they responded less than 12 hours later. So far, Promag is working with me to resolve my problems.
I'll keep you posted on the progress I've made.
I was thrilled by the performance of the Promag PM22 that I ordered two (2) more from Bud's.
Upon receiving my order, I began to load each magazine with ammunition and discovered I could only load 6-7 rounds in each magazine.
I sent a email to the company and they responded less than 12 hours later. So far, Promag is working with me to resolve my problems.
I'll keep you posted on the progress I've made.
... because they were defective. I'll ask Promag for the reason (s) why after they've inspected them.
Appears the top 6-8 rounds are a double stack and then they have to line back up for single stacking the rest of the magazine. maybe that is where you get the increased resistance when loading?
Your observation is correct but something is stopping the follower from continuing. I looked at my first two fully functioning magazines for anything that could help me...but no luck.
The increased resistance, etc. was noted in my initial post.
Promag has replied to my email and will replace the defective magazines once they've received them.
The increased resistance, etc. was noted in my initial post.
Promag has replied to my email and will replace the defective magazines once they've received them.
Replacement sounds good! Other than the shipping cost. Folks were having similar problems with a few brands of 30 round mags a few years ago. Had to take a tool and scrape the excess plastic from the mold lines inside. Can these Promags be taken apart for cleaning?
Yeah, i have...
I have the 8rd, 22rd, 30rd, 55rd & 70rd.
Here's my 2 cents... Or rant about promag mags...
The 22rd have some problems loading it, quickfix; stick a screwdriver into the Hole where the magasin mounts it to the well of the rifle, and the following rounds will follow suite... ..but you have to have some tool to load over the mentioned barrier of this mag, and thats just bad...and sad.. have ONLY tried IT with viper, seems to cycle good, but not perfect with this ammo.
30rd; well, every bad thing said about this mag is true. enough Said.
55rd & 70rd drum, has a spesial way loading, where you have to drag the drum while feeding it, so it even says in the manual, yes IT comes with a manual (just a regular piece of papir explaing how to feed the mag bullets..
Easly done really..
..but the worst part is the plastic, i repeat, the worst part is that this "great" polymer plastic is brittle. mine broke under The pressure while i was loading it (according to the manual, i might add), i fixed
the broken top with a small 1,5mm drill bit, glue and a piece of metall
But on the drum, inside, there was a piece of soft plastic, holding the "plastic-bullets" (which pushes the last bullets out) that also broke of when the top broke and the bullets flewed out.
So i had to open this fu.. ..so i opened this drum, which is pretty darn difficult without breaking it (again, the "great" polymer plastic is verry brittle).
Not an easy fix on this part...
So..
I contacted promag through mail about getting sent replacement part, Even offered to pay shipment, since i live in norway, the Reply, well i have not gotten a reply yet, but its ONLY been like three months..
Im thinking of getting the plastic top of the 55rd (the part that goes in to the rifle) replaced with a metall part, but i need to get it drawn in 3d cad (or scanned in 3d), and made in either aluminium or some other sort of metal.. ..so its a long project... And not done yet. Hopping this maybe will make that mag better... But im not holding my breath.
Why is there no one making aluminum/metal mags with 22rd capasity is beyond my understanding..
Long story short;
plastic/polymer is NOT great.
Ipso facto drum is not great, and 30rd is not great, 22rd is not great...
I hope promag will go bankrupt for selling, what is defently a good looking piece of crap mag (specially the 55rd, size-wise looks good om the rifle, (better then the 70rd). I might be overreacting you think, but i think its a reasonable reaction when you get your mail just ignored...
I would recommend this about promags: dont by it, its crap, if you have to have a high capasity, buy just one 22rd, and wait for some entrepeneure to stake his claim with a metal made magazine...
Sorry for my poor english, IT is not my first language.. 🙂
I have the 8rd, 22rd, 30rd, 55rd & 70rd.
Here's my 2 cents... Or rant about promag mags...
The 22rd have some problems loading it, quickfix; stick a screwdriver into the Hole where the magasin mounts it to the well of the rifle, and the following rounds will follow suite... ..but you have to have some tool to load over the mentioned barrier of this mag, and thats just bad...and sad.. have ONLY tried IT with viper, seems to cycle good, but not perfect with this ammo.
30rd; well, every bad thing said about this mag is true. enough Said.
55rd & 70rd drum, has a spesial way loading, where you have to drag the drum while feeding it, so it even says in the manual, yes IT comes with a manual (just a regular piece of papir explaing how to feed the mag bullets..
Easly done really..
..but the worst part is the plastic, i repeat, the worst part is that this "great" polymer plastic is brittle. mine broke under The pressure while i was loading it (according to the manual, i might add), i fixed
the broken top with a small 1,5mm drill bit, glue and a piece of metall
But on the drum, inside, there was a piece of soft plastic, holding the "plastic-bullets" (which pushes the last bullets out) that also broke of when the top broke and the bullets flewed out.
So i had to open this fu.. ..so i opened this drum, which is pretty darn difficult without breaking it (again, the "great" polymer plastic is verry brittle).
Not an easy fix on this part...
So..
I contacted promag through mail about getting sent replacement part, Even offered to pay shipment, since i live in norway, the Reply, well i have not gotten a reply yet, but its ONLY been like three months..
Im thinking of getting the plastic top of the 55rd (the part that goes in to the rifle) replaced with a metall part, but i need to get it drawn in 3d cad (or scanned in 3d), and made in either aluminium or some other sort of metal.. ..so its a long project... And not done yet. Hopping this maybe will make that mag better... But im not holding my breath.
Why is there no one making aluminum/metal mags with 22rd capasity is beyond my understanding..
Long story short;
plastic/polymer is NOT great.
Ipso facto drum is not great, and 30rd is not great, 22rd is not great...
I hope promag will go bankrupt for selling, what is defently a good looking piece of crap mag (specially the 55rd, size-wise looks good om the rifle, (better then the 70rd). I might be overreacting you think, but i think its a reasonable reaction when you get your mail just ignored...
I would recommend this about promags: dont by it, its crap, if you have to have a high capasity, buy just one 22rd, and wait for some entrepeneure to stake his claim with a metal made magazine...
Sorry for my poor english, IT is not my first language.. 🙂
Welcome to RFC Johnny! :bthumb:
Message received loud and clear and your written word is much better than some of the natives here.
I doubt anyone will make a metal drum mag because of the co$t.
I agree with your assessment 100%. I've written about my "adventures" with Promag...and in the future, I'll spend my money and time somewhere else.
P.S. ... don't worry about the language, I can understand you completely...and I know that your English is much better than my Spanish. 😏
I know this is an old post but I could not help myself.
Picked up a PM22 from Bass Pro the other day for $19.99.
Got home and loaded it up. I got to 6 rounds and could not load any more. I looked at it and the only thing I could think of was the follower, well a previous post already spoiled the surprise but you push on the follower through the mag catch cutout, load the round, then there are no more points of resistance for the follower. I think it's because that is where the mag transitions from straight up and down to the banana curve but thats just a guess. The PM22s stack the cartridges much narrower compared to the factory mag, that's why when you put 10 rounds in, it's already below where the factory mag bottoms out. I figured that if i kept loading and unloading the mag my problem would go away as if it was a defect or burr or something but it did not.
What I did try was putting some gun grease on the back side of the follower through the mag catch cutout, because you cannot take these mags apart. Load a few in, grease the follower with a Q-tip through the hole, then load another to get to more of the follower. The result is that there is now a crisp resistance that you overcome by just forcing a round in, no screwdriver needed. With the grease on I unloaded it and loaded it back up several times and repeated the results. I have not even shot this thing yet so I don't know about long term but this seems like it could be a fix.
Hope this helps.
Picked up a PM22 from Bass Pro the other day for $19.99.
Got home and loaded it up. I got to 6 rounds and could not load any more. I looked at it and the only thing I could think of was the follower, well a previous post already spoiled the surprise but you push on the follower through the mag catch cutout, load the round, then there are no more points of resistance for the follower. I think it's because that is where the mag transitions from straight up and down to the banana curve but thats just a guess. The PM22s stack the cartridges much narrower compared to the factory mag, that's why when you put 10 rounds in, it's already below where the factory mag bottoms out. I figured that if i kept loading and unloading the mag my problem would go away as if it was a defect or burr or something but it did not.
What I did try was putting some gun grease on the back side of the follower through the mag catch cutout, because you cannot take these mags apart. Load a few in, grease the follower with a Q-tip through the hole, then load another to get to more of the follower. The result is that there is now a crisp resistance that you overcome by just forcing a round in, no screwdriver needed. With the grease on I unloaded it and loaded it back up several times and repeated the results. I have not even shot this thing yet so I don't know about long term but this seems like it could be a fix.
Hope this helps.
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