I'll be going back this weekend and I'll get some more facts.

Funny H&R would put S/N's on a low cost rifle prior to the GCA68.

 

H&R 765 "Pioneer"

Well, I finally got he H&R 765 "Pioneer" today. It needs a few parts but it should clean up real nice.

The serial # is 11xxx, hope that can help me pin point a date.

My 1976 "Modern Gun Values" book says it was introduced in 1948 and dropped in 1954.

The barrel was loaded with dust and fouling, so probably hasn't been used in many years.

It needs:
Extractor
Extractor Plunger
Extractor Plunger Spring
Firing Pin

Next thing I'm going to do is see if Numrich has them. I know the extractor parts they have, not sure about the firing pin, I didn't know it was broken till I got it home.

I paid $56 for it.

 

This is the revised list of parts I will need to bring this old gal to life:

Extractor #19
Extractor Plunger #26
Extractor Plunger Spring #25
Firing Pin #16
Firing Pin Striker #17
Rear Sight Elevator #11
Bolt Guide Screw #96
Loading Platform Spring #10

Does anyone have H&R parts lying around that they want to sell?

 

BTT --- Numrich has these parts but I'm still hoping for something from one of you guys.

 

My parts have been sent and I hope they get here by the weekend.

I am trying to date this rifle. My literature says the 765 Pioneer was introduced 1948 and discontinued 1954. However, the serial number does not have a prefix that would conform to this chart.

Beginning in 1940 all H&R firearms have a letter prefix that will determine the date of manufacture.

A 1940 Y 1962
B 1941 Z 1963
C 1942 AA 1964
D 1943 AB 1965
E 1944 AC 1966
F 1945 AD 1967
G 1946 AE 1968
H 1947 AF 1969
I 1948 AG 1970
J 1949 AH 1971
K 1950 AJ 1972
L 1951 AL 1973
M 1952 AM 1974
N 1953 AN 1975
P 1954 AP 1976
R 1955 AR 1977
S 1956 AS 1978
T 1957 AT 1979
U 1958 AU 1980
V 1959 AX 1981
W 1960 AY 1982
X 1961

So, can anyone help me date this rifle with serial number 11xxx?

I am guessing first year of production but would like to have some more definitive information if available.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!! :F

 

My parts have been sent and I hope they get here by the weekend.

I am trying to date this rifle. My literature says the 765 Pioneer was introduced 1948 and discontinued 1954. However, the serial number does not have a prefix that would conform to this chart.

So, can anyone help me date this rifle with serial number 11xxx?

I am guessing first year of production but would like to have some more definitive information if available.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!! :F

Dont mean to hi-jack your thread but I recently got a H&R Model 765 "Pioneer" bolt action .22 for free and I took it apart and found no serial number on mine. But I need one major piece that Numrich`s diagra that you posted does not show. The take down screw stud that snaps into the breach part that the bolt action assembly slides into (the bolt action assembly housing? Not sure of correct term) but the stud was pulled out and I have tried welding it on and didnt get the weld too good but got a good piece welded on the front and some of the side but after getting it assembled moving the bolt back and forth caused the weld to give. Going to try again to repair it but I dont know if you happen to know the name of this part I am refering to or if Numrich even carry this part.

Besides that I thought this was a multi shot at first that the spring loaded bullet "tray" pushed down and held 3 or so .22 bullets didnt know it was a single shot till I read some on it tonight looking for this part. But it is a nice gun though its very simple and looks good when it was still in one piece with the restained and varnished stock. Not sure if I would want to fire the gun though since I dont think the weld will hold the take down screw stud in place. Just dont think it would be safe cause as you can tell on yours thats the only screw that holds the barrel to the wood stock.

 

Are you talking about part #6:

6 286970 Bolt Guide Screw ?

I got one for mine too. They are nice rifles.

 

Not the bolt guide screw, its the back half of the barrel you have to knock the pin out to remove it, its the housing the bolt and the bolt guide screw fits into.

Its the piece with the snap in (I assume the piece snaps in) that allows the stock to be bolted to the barrel. Mine is all screwed up and I just cant seem to get a good enough weld on it to fix it. Figured finding a replacement would be better.

 

On my rifle I only have to unscrew the take down screw and the action falls away from the stock, exposing the take down screw stud. Is there a metal fitting in the stock that I am forgetting about? Maybe so.

Can you take a picture of what you are referring too?

 

Sure here is a photo that I took the liberty of using paint to outline the part I am needing in red.

As you can se the snap in location for the take downscrew stud was messed up and I have tried welding it (put two welds on it and the piece still came out, going to try again one more timebut going to grind it smooth and weld all the way around the piece).

 

Oldwolf,

Is the first "1" in the serial number an "I" by chance?

 

Oldwolf,

Is the first "1" in the serial number an "I" by chance?

You know, I wondered about that so I looked at it again. It is a "1" alright. Doesn't make much sense.

 

You are talking about the receiver. The "Plainsman" may have used the same one as our "Pioneers". So you might look for one of them also.

 

Here is a receiver for you.

 

Thanks, that looks simmilar have to email the selling though cause it looks like the take down screw stud is afixed to the barrel instead of the receiver.

But I took and ground the bottom flat and I put a beter weld on the stud this time and thankfully it is staying together and works great. Would consider getting a back up just in case.

Only question I have thoghnow is how stiff is the bolt action on yours. Does it take lot of effort to lift up and move the bolt back or is it real smooth. I am wondering because mine moves back and forth smoothly till I hook the firing pin latch, the trigger and the bullet craddle then it gets stiff. Just curious if this is normal or not.

I also got a photo of this gun and the Mod 60 I got, just cant post them now the pc isnt recgonizin the digital card.

 

My bolt operates smoothly. Of course it takes more effort to lift the bolt up because the spring is being compressed with this motion. Pulling the bolt back is real easy too.

One thing I noticed is that if the feed ramp spring is too tight it is hard to push the bolt home plus the cartridges don't feed well into the chamber. I relieved the spring some so that now the bolt glides over the ramp and the cartridges find the chamber without problems.

 

I will have to look into it. When I just had the bolt assembly installed it glided very smoothly. So smoothly that without the lever and end cap just the main assembly I could make it slide back and forth by shaking the gun without much force. Once its assembled it requires a good amount of force. I will break it down and try to weaken the ramp spring some I think this is the cause of the stiffness. But then again It gets stiff just putting the firing pin latch and the trigger in place. Guess its just one of those things I need to just try different things to see what works.

 

I have a question for you about the extractor spring on your 765.

I am wondering how easy it is for you to flex the spring and extractor in and out on your bolt.

Mine moves very easily and I am wondering if that might be why sometimes the extractor does not pull the spent casing out of the chamber.

The extractor is new but the spring is the old one that was on the rifle...I guess it is 60 years old.

Anyway, if your extractor spring is strong and the extractor is easy to flex, I'll bet that is why my casings are not always pulled out of the chamber.

 

Looking for help, I have a H&R "Pioneer" 765 and the load spring is broken. I have a new on but for the live of me figure out how it goes. Does some one have a picture of how to install it? Thanks a lot.

Mike

 

Mike, I sold my 765 but you should be able to try to fit the spring in one of four possible ways.

With the pin loops either up or down and
With the closed end of the spring either facing forward or back.

My guess is that it fits 180 degrees rotated as shown in the picture, with the fingers fitting up into the cartridge lifter portion.

Did you see this part image at the Numrich website?

 

Yeah I ordered the parts from them, Still don't get it. I should lower the loading ramp and you open the bolt and raise it as you close it. So I'm thinking it has to connect to the sear some how.

 

Are you talking about part #10?
You have to remove the stock and install the spring from beneath.

 

Yeah #10, and yea I have it torn down.

 

I got it now, The pin that should have been in the stud was a piece of wire, so I replace it and how I see how that works. Thanks for the help.

Mike

 

i have a model 765 pioneer I got from my father when I started hunting small game it was his when he was young the letter on it is a M. over the years the bolt broke on the handle and got misplaced somewhere over the years and cant find it im trying to find a complete bolt for it but cant find one in stock also one that wont cost a arm and a leg. would like to get it working to hand down and keep in the family as a tradition.

 

I will be looking for a complete bolt too, the bolt is seized and the handle is broken off. this rifle has no letter prefix either could they be pre 1940?