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Good enough tires.

3.8K views 96 replies 42 participants last post by  Rosscoe  
#1 · (Edited)
Original crummy tires on my 2019 4Runner with 40K miles on it needed replacing. Buddy said I should get a particular BFG off-road tire. Nope. I drove his Jeep 1000 miles with those tires on it when I helped him move to Colorado, and noise on the highway was terrible.

Yeah, says he, but they're great off-road and in snow. Yeah, says I, but 95% of my driving is gonna be on pavement, and where I live only gets about 12" of snow total in winter. Your fancy BFGs cost $350 each.

After some research, I bought these Coopers yesterday...


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They review well and for my use, I think they'll do the job. $165 each at Walmart, and I got out the door for $816.

Guy who checked me in said that these are light truck tires, and their compooter told him I should get passenger tires for my 4Runner. I told him I'd take a chance. :)
 
#42 ·
My VW Jetta had Cooper tires on it when I bought it, and I really liked them a lot, so when new tires were needed early last year I purchased a new set of Coopers, and they're even better than the first set! I had never owned Cooper tires before, but now they're my favorites!
 
#3 ·
Those look like good ones. I just had to replace the tires on my truck. I only got 36K out of my Firestones that were on it. They were rated to go much longer, but wore out faster. I decided to go with a cheaper set this time and got a set of Falken brand tires. So far no regrets
 
#4 ·
I was looking at the same tire as a replacement in the near future. I’ve heard mixed reviews. You can only buy that Cooper tire at Walmart. You’ll not find it anywhere else for sale. I’m really interested to hear how well they do after a few thousand.
I can get 10% off on those tires since my son works there. Give us a review after you drive em a while.
 
#6 ·
I just put a set of these on my 2013 Ford F150. Bought the truck new. Have about 56k miles on it. Hoping these tires will last. Only have about 1,600 miles on them.Keep after maintenance. Where I live in PA road salt and corrosion a big problem. On my way this AM for annual oil undercoat treatment. Like most other stuff these days, I buy stuff for the rest of my life including shoes, undies, jeans etc. We’ll see. Well maybe not bananas… yet!
 
#10 ·
There’s a small garage across the street from me that specializes in alignments. They can’t do one, and get it back to you with the steering wheel straight.
The old timers that used rods to measure, and align are all gone. I don’t know who can do a good alignment these days.
 
#7 ·
I have bought E-Rated (light truck) tires on two separate occasions and have sold them them within a month or two.

The ride in LT tires is, simply put, horrifyingly bad. DO NOT buy these tires as you are going to regret it.

Listen to the guy at the store and buy passenger-car rated tires instead. They will flex far better in off road situations. The only time you should be buying E-rated tires is for heavy on-road work, like towing big loads when you have the cab loaded down. Do you have a baseball team in your 4Runner daily? LT tires may be the right choice for you.
 
#28 ·
I have bought E-Rated (light truck) tires on two separate occasions and have sold them them within a month or two.

The ride in LT tires is, simply put, horrifyingly bad. DO NOT buy these tires as you are going to regret it.
I've owned eight light trucks and body on frame SUVs (light trucks without a bed). All of them either came with LTs or were replaced with them at the first tire change. I've never regretted buying any of them.
 
#11 ·
Coffee, firearms and tires , I tend to be a bit of a snob about.. wether you’re driving a 4x4 with wagon axles front and rear or a Lamborghini or Ferrari it all comes down to a shoe sized footprint on the pavement,don’t skimp.

I’ve been running these, can’t say enough about them. On my Tbird, wife’s edge and daughters Pilot.
https://tirespace.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Michelin-CrossClimate-2-Rebate.png

Rich
 
#12 ·
NEVER buy the Goodyears from Walmart, they are unadulterated garbage. Replaced a set with less than 20k miles they were so bad. They were completely unsafe in any amount of rain. I have great luck with Nexxen brand, I have 80k treadwear on our Flex and 70K E-rated on my van, and the Kia Soul is getting a set soon. This is the 2nd set on the van, the first set lasted 70k loaded-down miles. I got the last set of E-rated Nexxen for my van for ~$600 ordering online from Walmart & having them shipped to the store. I have used Firestone, Hankook. Goodyear, General, Uniroyal and the Walmart brand I can't remember the name of and will only use Nexxen going forward. Was going to try Michelin but they were twice the cost and certainly were not going to last twice the miles.
 
#16 ·
Having owned Michelin, Uniroyal, Firestone, Goodyear, Pirelli, BFG and a few other low end tires from companies like General and Falken, i have to give the nod to BFG.
BFG tires have been the longest lasting, with the best traction on varied surfaces, on and off road, and have proven the most durable in resisting damage from road debris and off road hazzards. Yes the KO's are expensive, and the tread pattern does make some road noise, but running twice as long as the next brand more than makes up for the extra expense. Plus im young enough the road noise doesnt bother me... theres always the radio if it starts to.
Goodyear and Firestone were the worst, only took one time with each to learn that they werent interested in making a quality product, simply getting them out the door was enough for them.
 
#44 ·
Having owned Michelin, Uniroyal, Firestone, Goodyear, Pirelli, BFG and a few other low end tires from companies like General and Falken, i have to give the nod to BFG.
BFG tires have been the longest lasting, with the best traction on varied surfaces, on and off road, and have proven the most durable in resisting damage from road debris and off road hazzards. Yes the KO's are expensive, and the tread pattern does make some road noise, but running twice as long as the next brand more than makes up for the extra expense. Plus im young enough the road noise doesnt bother me... theres always the radio if it starts to.
Goodyear and Firestone were the worst, only took one time with each to learn that they werent interested in making a quality product, simply getting them out the door was enough for them.
I've seen a few YouTube videos on the KOs, and they always mention how difficult they are to balance.
 
#17 ·
We run Cooper AT3 in LT models. They are an excellent compromise between HT and AT tires. Do well in dry or a downpour or snow. They get me around the farm with ease. Have not tried any mud boggs or billy goat trails. They are a little louder than HT but much quieter than the BFG k02. They ride well in loaded and unloaded heavy halfs and 3/4. The suburban is the lightest vehicle I've used them on, zero regrets. Many friends have installed them on plow trucks and jobsite trucks without complaints. The question is how much did walmart change the AT3 to get the All Terrain tire model.
 
#30 ·
We run Cooper AT3 in LT models. They are an excellent compromise between HT and AT tires. Do well in dry or a downpour or snow.

The question is how much did walmart change the AT3 to get the All Terrain tire model.
From what I read in my research before buying (but have no way of verifying it), the Walmart ones are a previous iteration of the AT3 with minor styling changes.
 
#19 ·
My '04 Jeep GC Freedom Edition 4x4 came with Goodyear AT's and they were only so-so at best, at least for me. I don't do much off roading and rarely if ever towing since I sold my boat so when they needed replacing our local tire dealer highly recommended Firestone Destinations LE2, I've been really satisfied with them so far.
 
#21 ·
I have had great luck with Yokohama Geolanders on my ram and GMC 1500s. They were nowhere to be found last winter when I needed a set so I got Firestone destinations A/T 2s, they are passable but, I'll pay the extra for geolanders everytime.
 
#31 ·
I go by the Tire Rack reviews, both consumer and tests they run on their site. So far, they have been spot on.
Yeah they're helpful. When I used their tire decision guide's "find the right tire" function and checked off all my wants/needs, they came up with three matches for me and my vehicle. One of them was a similar but more aggressive (and $70 more expensive) Cooper.

So being cheap, off to Walmart I went. :LOL:
 
#23 ·
Coffee, firearms and tires , I tend to be a bit of a snob about.. wether you’re driving a 4x4 with wagon axles front and rear or a Lamborghini or Ferrari it all comes down to a shoe sized footprint on the pavement,don’t skimp.

I’ve been running these, can’t say enough about them. On my Tbird, wife’s edge and daughters Pilot.
https://tirespace.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Michelin-CrossClimate-2-Rebate.png

Rich
Another two huge thumbs up for these. Summer, winter, anything in between. Superb.

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Have you tried them on a heavier, full size vehicle? Curious if they have the sidewall integrity or roll over.
 
#26 ·
I had to buy tires unexpectedly a few weeks ago. My front tire developed a hard pull from a belt separation.
I ended up buying 4 of the Discount Tire Rocky Mountain AT tires. So far I've been pretty happy with them Decent looking tead and quiet on the highway.
These are on my 2006 1500 2wd Suburban.

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#29 ·
Except for motorcycles I haven't had anything under a 3/4 ton pickup since '98, a "nice" ride is not spilling my coffee. Not all lt truck tires are E rated, that's the old 10 ply and usually have to make sure that's what you're getting if that's what you want. I believe great traction, mileage and ride don't come in the same package, maybe good enough does. If you want a great ride and good traction you're not gonna get excellent mileage out of a tire. My '98 came with Michelins and after they hardened off I had a hard time with wet grass but weren't even close to being wore out when I swapped them, for pavement only they were good. Since those I've run Coopers, Bridgestone Duelers, [my favorite before they changed], and now a set of Toyo on the 3/4 and really, these were all pretty good for my type of driving, daily driver and pushing snow. Did they last for a ton of miles? Nope. but they rode good and got good traction. The one ton sports Continentals and they are good, not an aggressive tread but I did plow snow with them when the 3/4 was down and I couldn't have asked for more. You'll like your Coopers.
 
#38 ·
That's all I run on my 2 SUV's is the Cooper AT3. Here in Missouri, you can still buy them at Dobb's Tire and Auto. The month of October is Buy 3 and get 1 free. Free road hazard and free rotation. I highly recommend the 4 wheel alignment.
 
#45 ·
Alignment shop called me saying they had a cancellation, asking if I wanted to come in today. I did. $75 and out in half an hour. That's the cheapest and quickest car work I've had done in a long time. :)

Same guy has owned this small shop for at least as long as I've been in the area (~35 years). Business opened in 1925. Has always done me and my friends a good job.