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Go back to a 64? Or keep my 54?

2.5K views 17 replies 12 participants last post by  GregP74  
#1 · (Edited)
A couple years back I had this idea that I needed to upgrade my 1416 HB BT. Nevermind that the gun shoots 10x better than I would ever be capable of. Something bit me on the butt and I decided I needed a 54 action.

I ended up selling it to a guy who worked at my favorite shop and got a 1710 HB D.

So here I sit two years later and I've hardly shot this beast. It's kinda heavy for me for offhand shooting, and there's no way I'm going to ever use it to it's full potential.

Am I better off just listing it on Gunbroker and going back to a lighter 64 action, like the one I had before? (Or even a used one?) I'm guessing the difference in prices could probably buy one of the vintage 22 autoloaders and pump actions I'm looking at also.

Edit: Acutally looking at some 64 action rifles. Let's say I wasn't planning on adding a suppressor right away, but maybe someday in the future. What kind of accuracy would I lose by getting a gun with the 18" threaded barrel as opposed to the 23" regular one?
 
#6 ·
GregP74,
I almost sold a perfectly good 1712 because the wood stock kept shifting with atmospheric changes.

Long story short, I put the barreled action in a MPA LSS Gen 2 chassis and it was like getting a new rifle. I sold the wood stock and had enough money for the chassis and some left over.

If a rifle doesn't live up to its accuracy expectations it doesn't hang around long with me. I don't care how pretty it looks.
 
#7 ·
The sad thing is the 64 that I had before was just fine for me. I was perfectly happy with it.

Then the owner of my LGS texted me one afternoon from an estate sale where they had this NIB 54 at a good price and asked if I wanted him to pick it up for me. Naturally I said yes without really thinking about it.

The 54 is an AMAZING 22. It's better than the 64, but that was able to shoot 100x better than I can. I'm the weakest point in this system and I feel like the 54 is really overkill. And I was just more comfortable with the 64 before.

I may just end up buying another 64 and keeping both, but I have a feeling I won't be using the 54 as much. If I can find a new home for it with someone who will appreciate it and use it to its potential I won't feel bad though.
 
#14 ·
My one and only...................

Anschutz, that is! I picked this one up from Gunbroker a couple of years ago and am completely happy with it. It is just light enough to be fun to shoot offhand, has sights that seem to work well with my aging eyes and even has reasonably nice wood! This is an early 64 action that was marketed as a "Junior Varminter", later to become a 1416. Probably dates to somewhere between 1955 and 1958 based on the markings, etc. Probably the most accurate .22 rifle that I own! No, it is not for sale!
 

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#16 ·
If you don't mind searching a bit, you could look for an early 1422 or a 1423. Still a 54 action, but they are a much slimmer, lighter rifle, more like a Brno model 1 or Mauser mm410b. If you were so inclined, you might even find one with double set triggers. To me, they are the best of both worlds, very nice field rifle.
 
#17 ·
Spot on. If I was Right Handed I would own many 54 action repeaters. As it stands mine are all LH 64s because they never made a repeater in LH besides the recent Fortner action Sporter one I have. It has the medium heavy barrel and is a pretty heavy gun but a fantastic shooter.

There is nothing wrong with a 64 action, but I do really like the 54s I have a little better.
 
#18 ·
I've been busy and haven't been around to check on this thread.

I have enjoyed playing around with the short barrel 1416 with the heavy barrel and beaver tail stock that my buddy from the shop let me borrow.

It feels like that thing is about 7 lbs with the scope. (Ok, I looked it up. It's 6lbs 4 oz without the scope, so probably between 7-7.5 lbs scoped up.)

Something a bit heavier would be better for bench work, but even with that big stock it's decent for shooting offhand. Obviously nothing's perfect for every application, but honestly this one seems more in touch with what I'm going to be doing than my 54 does. I've managed to shoot it pretty well both offhand and with the bipod. Mrs. P seems to have fallen in love with it too, which worries me.

It makes me feel bad because I'd be taking a step backwards but it just feels better to me than the 54. But for what I'm going to be doing the 54 also feels kind of like buying a range rover to plow driveways. It's more than I need.