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Geco Match, disappointing to say the least

16K views 22 replies 17 participants last post by  Litetrigger  
#1 ·
A few days ago I took a gamble and ordered a case of Geco Match 22lr. that supposedly is made for bolt action rifles. Hey it says it on the box, it must be true. Target Sports had a sale at 6 cents a round and free shipping. Hey, German made Match ammo at 6 cents a round, what could go wrong? Well mine is still in transit but I was at the range this morning, as was a friend of mine, and I had my LabRadar with me. He had just received a couple of bricks of Geco Match and was there to test it out and he gave me a box to test.

The results were very disappointing. I was shooting my 453 Lux which’s very accurate. Out of six 5 round groups at 50 yards the best I could do was a 1.79 inch group. All the others were in the high 2’s with one in the 3’s, he wasn’t doing any better and the LabRadar data was backing up our lousy results. 30 rounds produced an average of 1032fps, an Extreme spread of 80fps and an SD of 19.1. I’ve tested worse...Golden Bullet and Thunderbolt, but that’s it. I’m hoping it was just a bad lot and that I won’t get that lot, but I’m not very hopeful. The fact that ammo this bad makes into Match ammo boxes makes me VERY skeptical 🤨 If what I get perfoms like this I’m going to raise hell with whoever it is that makes this stuff and has the nerve to brand it as “Match” ammo. Bad groups can be blamed on all sorts of things, but there is no arguing with actual data.
 
#2 ·
Forrest Gump said it best, "you never know what you're going to get". I have a case of it and it isn't spectacular, but it's decent enough for plinking and our local silhouette league. At 50 yards I'm getting five shot groups that range from .495-.995". That case ran me just $208 to my door. You may also have a gun that just doesn't like that ammo. Better to try some before ordering a case of it. What I do get with it is three or four shots in just about one hole and then a flyer. Sometimes it's two flyers and three in one hole. The word "Match" was developed by marketing people. It's meaningless. It only implies something, it doesn't guarantee anything. The upside is that they won't be hard to sell to someone else if you want to get rid of them. Lots of people shoot ammo like that all the time and don't even know it's not shooting well. Good luck with the case you're getting, it might do a lot better.
 
#3 ·
No surprise there, FF.
If it says match on the label, it probably ain't.
Think about it....RWS R50, Tenex, Midas+... doesn't have match on the box.
What it has is a cost commensurate with the quality control and testing applied.
If you want to use cheap ammo, expect less than stellar results.
If you want to shoot tiny groups with cheap ammo, do so at close range.
If you expect sub moa results from rimfire at 100 yards or more,
it's going to use up a bunch a time and money to produce a few decent targets.
 
#4 ·
Extremely pleased at the performance of Geco Match in both my 452’s. I have found it to be very accurate and consistent at 25-50 yards. Can’t seem to find much difference between it and SK ammo which also shoots good for me. Ironically my guns won’t tolerate CCI sv’s or Aguilas. Conversely my rifles doesn’t shoot Geco bolt very well. To say that I’m well pleased with Geco Match would be a gross understatement. jmho
 
#5 ·
The Geco Match doesn't seem to do as well as the Geco bolt action optimized marked that is doing very well for me. I also bought a case of the semi-auto marked Geco and it is louder than the other stuff I got from them but is doing as good or slightly better in some of my rifles than the bolt action marked boxes. I have plenty of 22's to choose from to find the ones that will shoot it good enough for my wife and myself to have a lot of cheap fun. I have heard of more accuracy problems with the match than the standard variety. Norma Tac 22 usually out shoots the Norma Match.
 
#7 ·
I am shooting some of the semi-auto in my Marlin cowboy silhouette gun. It seems to shoot at least decent. I haven't really tested it with a scope yet, just aperture sights. We need a little power in that game for knocking targets over at 100m, and even the semi auto seems on the mild side for that. No malfunctions in my semi automatic rifle.

I have a few boxes of "match" that I will try through my anschutz 54 one of these days. With mid grade rimfire ammo it always seems to be a roll of the dice. Hats off to lapua and eley for the consistency of their best products.
 
#8 ·
I’m .5 and less with Geco 22 lr optimized for bolt action out of my CZ American. It is my best all round ammo. Never tried the Geco Match grade. Geco Semi Auto works well also and gotten consistent hits on my three inch plates at 100 yds, MOA ground squirrel.
 
#9 ·
I Shot this for the first time yesterday and was happy with the performance. 15-25mph wind kept me at 25 yards. I only tested it in a Winchester 52 and it grouped well, as tight as SK Standard + but a few more fliers. I will try it in other rifles but in the 52 it’s good practice ammo at a good price.
 
#10 ·
Semi-auto (not match) update:. This ammo has a lot of lube which seems weird for ammo intended for semi-auto use. Anyway, my Marlin 60 looked terrible inside after a couple hundred rounds. Black gunk all over. But on the positive side, it was all soft and cleaned up easily. Also, the gun was still functioning fine despite the mess.
 
#12 ·
A few days ago I took a gamble and ordered a case of Geco Match 22lr. that supposedly is made for bolt action rifles. Hey it says it on the box, it must be true. Target Sports had a sale at 6 cents a round and free shipping. Hey, German made Match ammo at 6 cents a round, what could go wrong? Well mine is still in transit but I was at the range this morning, as was a friend of mine, and I had my LabRadar with me. He had just received a couple of bricks of Geco Match and was there to test it out and he gave me a box to test.

The results were very disappointing. I was shooting my 453 Lux which's very accurate. Out of six 5 round groups at 50 yards the best I could do was a 1.79 inch group. All the others were in the high 2's with one in the 3's, he wasn't doing any better and the LabRadar data was backing up our lousy results. 30 rounds produced an average of 1032fps, an Extreme spread of 80fps and an SD of 19.1. I've tested worse...Golden Bullet and Thunderbolt, but that's it. I'm hoping it was just a bad lot and that I won't get that lot, but I'm not very hopeful. The fact that ammo this bad makes into Match ammo boxes makes me VERY skeptical 🤨 If what I get perfoms like this I'm going to raise hell with whoever it is that makes this stuff and has the nerve to brand it as "Match" ammo. Bad groups can be blamed on all sorts of things, but there is no arguing with actual data.
In my KIDD barrel/bolt on my 10/22 I have had decent groups with the Geco Match .22, under an inch at least at 50yds/10 shot groups.
During testing various different types of ammo (14 types) it was in the mid to upper rankings but as the testing weeded out the largest groups it is no longer in the testing.
It isn't bad and would work for plinking but to slow, to much drop, for hunting IMO.
Just depends on what your particular barrel likes.

Darrell
 
#13 · (Edited)
I posted this info earlier in the CMP/Ely thread, but thought to repost it here as it includes testing w/ the GECO Bolt;

(Averages of qty.3+, 5-shot groups at 100 yds; shot after 10 'seasoning' rounds for each ammo type.)

Ruger 77/22 - factory sporter bbl
(An extraordinarily-accurate example, which has shown an affinity for the Norma TAC line in past testing.)
  • CMP Eley: 0.93"
  • GECO Bolt: 1.72"
  • Norma TAC-22 (49TI7, a known exceptional lot): 1.32"
  • Norma TAC-22 (50LI3, a known good lot): 1.52"
  • Norma Match-22 (untested lot): 1.34"

Remington 540 XR Target - factory heavy bbl
(a very accurate example; averaging just less than 1.0" with Wolf M/E in prior 100-yd testing)
  • Aguila SV: 2.38"
  • CCI SV (a known good lot): 2.05"
  • CMP Eley: 1.01"
    [*]GECO Bolt: 2.20"
  • Norma TAC-22 (49TI7, a known exceptional lot): 1.83"
  • Norma Match-22: 1.88"
  • SK Std+: 1.71"
  • Wolf M/T (a known good lot): 1.43"
  • Wolf M/E (a known good lot): 1.27"
Velocity Standard-Deviations for the GECO Bolt was 12 fps in the Ruger, and 16 fps in the Rem.540.

For the Eley, Velocity standard-deviations were 10 and 12 respectively.
The Norma TAC & Wolf/SK were basically tied with that.
Norma Match & Wolf M/E were both 9.

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I also did a test series of GECO Bolt vs. CCI SV in my two accurate Ruger MkII pistols (incl. a 10" model).
One pistol did slightly better with the GECO, while the other did slightly better with the CCI SV.

Needless to say, am quite happy with this adequate (if not exceptional) performance at $205 per case. :)
 
#15 ·
when it comes to 22 lr ammo it all about the rifle. one rifle will like one brand and hate others. the next rifle it will be the other way around. i been luckly with several 39a's that like the same ammo. i got a annie 64 silhouette that likes rws and hates sk/lapua. i got a annie 1712 that hates rws and loves sk/lapua.
 
#16 ·
Brand doesn't define results.
The quality and consistentcy of the ammunition does.
If the cartridges are not assembled correctly and won't maintain similar muzzle velocities
then the label on the box means absolutely nothing.
The rules of ballistics apply to rimfire as well as centerfire.
Rifles can be adjusted/tuned to fit quality ammunition.
Not even the best rifle in the world can produce good results from cr*ppy ammo.
Time of flight, gravity and aerodynamics rule otherwise.
 
#17 ·
My Annie 1710 likes the geco match.
See lot of groups .5” or less at 50 yards CTC.

My Annie don’t like wolf match extra or match target as well as geco match.. Tried several lot numbers.

May take some pics tomorrow with some geco fired st 50 yards if wind is light.

Shot some today at 44 yards out of the Annie. For price of ammo shoots good.
 
#20 ·
Like anything to do with rimfire cartridges, batch quality varies.
Some runs are decent, some ain't. The two boxes I tried were less than match grade.
80 fps ES for 50 shots, that'd be two inches of vertical spread at 100 yards
before wind and skill had any effect on results. At 50 yards expect about 0.6 inches of vertical.
 
#22 ·
Geco Match ammo

I tested a box of the Geco Match today & was pretty DISAPPOINTED.
The best from my Savage MK II with a Basix trigger set at 1.4# & a BSA Platinum 6X24-44 scope, was a 1.45" at 50 YDS. ( I don't need to spend $2G+on a set up to be competitive.)
Compared that with the WOLF MATCH TARGET that my rifle does like, .375 - .50 at 50 YDS. That's the old Lapua/Wolf that I purchased maybe 10 years ago for $29.99 a brick. Over 3 times that much now.