Fed automatch is my go-to round. I've never had this problem. My Glock is a conversion kit but likes faster ammo, I just don't like paying for it. $$$. For some odd happenstance my custom chamber reamer really likes automatch. So it's what I have most of. My Glock conversion doesn't have my chamber, it's whatever it came with.

I know this don't help much or at all, but I do blow through enough of that ammo that I can say it may be the batch of ammo you have. Sometimes a batch will be unusual from the average "Im used to" ammo.

 

Well I only have a couple of boxes left and then I have a bunch of CCI mini mag that I'm going to start shooting so I'll give it a real hard cleaning and see what it does with that. Only oter ammo I have had that leaded up my gun nearly this bad was some Winchester or Remingto and I can't remember which it was for sure.

 

I'm curious to hear you findings.

 

OK, I'll try to remember to post when I see if the situation changes with changing ammo. I will probably be a couple of months before I shoot up my Federal ammo and have a chance to give it a good cleaning.

 

Sometimes leading isn't the ammo, it's the barrel- especially when it's happening with more than one brand of ammo.
You might find that a polish with JB bore paste and coating your barrel with Eezox between shooting sessions may significantly reduce leading.

A bore scope can provide answers, that bore may be on the rough end of the friction spectrum.

DrG

 

Well I'm sure you know lots more about it than I do, but I'm going to be shocked if the barrel in a glock semi-auto is the cause but I guess it could be. Thanks for the advice.

 

I agree with the doc. I shoot 100 rounds of Federal Auto Match a week thru my Buck Mark and have never had any lead in the bore in all the years I have been doing this. What makes you doubt it could be the barrel? Have you bore scoped it?

 

No I have not. I just have not had any problems with other ammo in the past, and I just think that Glock produces better quality product than that. But, I am not able to determine exactly at this point where the problem lies.

 

FYI- I've moved this thread to "Open Rimfire". The Off Topic Lounge is for non shooting related discourse.

 

Thank you.

No, I have not tried the Federal in a different gun. The only other gun I have does not shoot Federal well. Lots of fails to eject and fails to feed so I don't fire it in that gun because it ends up with the striker banging on the barrel and it broke the stiker in two so I quit firing it in that gun. That gun is another brand and model.

 

Gotcha. What do you shoot through that gun?
And have you tried that flavor in the Glock?

I completely understand your assumption of a certain level of quality from a given manufacturer, but if you buy enough guns over a long enough period of time, you'll find that even the top manufacturers can have a bad barrel slip past QC.
I have a dozen .22 pistols, and have zero leading problems, but I feed mine a higher end diet of SK ammo.

 

If you have a friend with a bore scope, I would have him take a look at the bore after your cleaning. My experience, even with high end guns like Glock, is that when the rifling equipment is near the end of its useful life, you can get chatter marks in the bore that will accumulate lead. Glock uses polygonal rifling in its centerfire pistols, so the barrel on your gun may have been made under contract by a third party.

 

OK, thanks again for your inputs. The gun was bought new about a year after they first came out and I think made by Glock. I'll keep an eye on it and try some different ammo. I have shot several other ammo's through it and shot a good bit of the Federal too.

Thanks again, I'll keep watch on it. It's just a paper plinker so it's not critical and cheap to replace if I ever need to.

 

I thought everybody knows yer not sussposed to shoot lead bullets in a Glock? 🙀

 

Wow! He's right:

An Official Journal Of The NRA | Should You Shoot Lead Bullets in Glock Barrels?

With the cost of ammunition being what it is, I have had to go back to reloading my 9 mm practice ammunition using any components I can find. I got a really good deal on some hardcast bullets and picked up several thousand for current and future use in my Glock G17s, of which I have several...

www.shootingillustrated.com

Can I Shoot Lead in My Glock?

Have you ever wondered, can I shoot lead in my Glock? Here are the answers and some simple mods to shoot hardcast lead bullets in your Glock.

gundigest.com

These articles are talking about CF, but the same principle might apply....

 

Question: How long between each shot? Are you doing what they call mag dumps where you shoot as fast as possible? Where I am going (but it may not apply to a 22) is barrel heating due to rapid and sustained fire vs a second or two between each shot.

 

Not doing ammo dumps with the Mark IV, easily a second or more between shots with a stainless steel bull barrel. It’s impossible to ammo dumps with the Super Wrangler single action revolver.

 

4 pages of discussion on leading in Glock 44s here at Glocktalk forum:

Glock 44 barrel leading

I having a serious barrel leading problem with Glock 44. It does have a high round count near 12k rounds. The leading begins at 90 to 100 rounds and at 120-150 rounds I cannot get my cleaning rod thru the bore. Yesterday I fired 100 rounds of Winchester Wildcat copper plated and it took a 24...

www.glocktalk.com

 

Never had the problem and I use A-M in 6 rifles and 1 pistol.

 

I've had terrible luck with automatch in pistols. It's really random though. I had one box that shot fine and 4 that were FTE every other shot. I noticed the bullets seem to have some wiggle room in the case and I think they end up bending on the feed ramp. Occurs in both my MK4s and my MP22. And yes they were tending to deposit more lead. Again it may be more of a load angle issue. I have no issues with CC mini mags. CCI SV and AR22 are about 99% good unless my guns are dirty.

 

................... I noticed the bullets seem to have some wiggle room in the case and I think they end up bending on the feed ramp. ...........................

Consider that wiggle room doesn't wind up having room to wiggle when it's chambered and about to be fired. If the rifle chamber is halfway decent or better there isn't room in that chamber for loose wobblies.

And if your rifle has a chamber that engraves slugs, consider the chance any looseness has of remaining as slim to none.

 

Anyone else have a problem with Federal Automatch ammo causing heavy leading in the barrel of a Glock 44? When I use a JAG to clean out the barrel I get many shards of lead on the patch. In fact I often have a very difficult time even removing the jag from the barrel and sometimes have to take a hammer to it to get it to pass through the barrel and then often find 6 or 8 lead shards on the patch. Yesterday I complely destroyed my jag trying to remove it.

I try to clean it with a patch and patch holder to clean the gun, but it obviously does not really ge the barrel to come clean and even after running 8 or 10 patches through, I still have quite a bit of lead stain on the patch.

Does anyone else have a problem cleaning their 22, Glock or other gun, with a jag or getting it stuck in the barrel with lots of lead shards collecting on the patch from cleaning it?

I bought a threaded barrel from Glock for my G44 and it leaded badly. Luckily I had recently bought a borescope and could see the problem near the front of the barrel.
I bought a Tipton Felt cleaning pellet kit and JB Borepaste. Saturated felt pellet with solvent and a dab of borepaste then went to town. Repeated many many times and now that rough spot near the muzzle if gone and so is leading problem.

 

I use my G44 in speed steel matches. My ammo has been CCI Blazer and Fed AM. I just started using my last 325 pack of the AM. I've only had very minimal lead buildup using the AM ammo. Barrel has been easy to clean after the match which can run a minimum of 125 rounds on a good day. I soak the bore with a nylon brush and solvent then push out with a patch. Sounds like you need to have someone scope your bore to see whats going on.

 

I have shot over 30K rounds through 3 different glock 9mm pistols. ALL LEAD. I don't get leading. You have to run a bullet several thousands larger than the barrel. Since I switched over to powder coat I run the lead bullets the same diameter as jacketed. Now much cleaner and way less smoke.

Your barrel either is too large, or you have a defect in the throat. The only time I have ever had any leading in a 22rf was with the Blazers with the graphite coating. Never with the wax coated Blazers.

 

Step one for me is to use a sturdy brass cleaning brush. Usually gets the lead out in a few passes if it is there. I don’t even use solvent at that point. Then a few passes with a solvent soaked patch, then dry it. Done. Do this for my centerfires too.
I think the admonition about no lead in glocks does not apply at all to the rimfire, since there is no such thing as jacketed 22.
and as mentioned with a properly sized bullet leading even in the centerfire glocks isn’t a problem.a good percentage of my centerfire glock shooting has been with lead bullets with no problems.
when someone has an issue with 22, almost invariably they are running some cheap bulk pack stuff. Good to remember that anything bulk pack tends to be the lowest quality product produced, and many may not want to hear it, but spending an extra dollar per 50 rounds for ammo may be the quickest easiest permanent solution to such problems.
I have heard no end of complaints about various guns being inaccurate or unreliable and when details given, the associated ammo is bulk pack. Then I hear things like I won’t have a gun that won’t run cheap ammo, or “ they should all run on bulk pack”.
especially with guns designed or built in Europe, the Europeans tend to use the higher quality types of ammo like eley rws SK and lapua. This usually gives much better results. I will say most CCI products run well for me, and what I chose for casual shooting applications. I use Winchester Remington or federal only as a last resort, and expect issues as these brands are in federal case a step down in quality from CCI, and in the case of Remington and Winchester a couple flights of stairs into the cellar

 

Shooting Steel Challenge I have fired a lot of AM through my Smith & Wesson 617. Never a problem. I have also shot a lot of it through a TC Contender. Accuracy wise AM is not up to par with REAL Match ammunition, however it works fine in most non match applications. AND it is much cheaper to shoot than REAL Match ammunition.

Bob R

 

Is it the ammo, or the speed and amount at which you are running lead down a hot barrel? If shot fast enough, all ammos will lead up any barrel. As for cleaning, a good bronze brush and Hoppes #9. Of you have a nice pistol, get yourself a good short one piece rod to clean it properly. They used to make, and not sure if they still do, but it was called gun scrubber. It came
In a can like spray paint. It would detail be all the lead from handguns. Especially those who shot non jacketed bullets. Good stuff.

 

I was able to clean the lead shards out of the barrels but it took some work. And, I do have pictures of the lead removed from both bores. As for the heating of the barrels, my Ruger Super Wrangler is a single action revolver so impossible to overheat. My Ruger Mark IV is a Target model with a stainless steel bull barrel. So I really doubt that overheating is an issue here either.

 

I've experienced "leading" in the bore of my Ruger Super Wrangler. After cleaning, I can fire three to six cylinders (six rounds per cylinder) just fine, then it starts to tear/keyhole the target instead of clean, round holes. I cleaned the gun and found several large and long shards of lead. Got the barrel back in shape and tried it again with the same results. Automatch will not go back in this pistol. I tried the same ammo in my Ruger Mark IV Target and after six magazines (sixty shots) it did the same thing to the target - tearing/keyholing. I cleaned the guns and found shards in the bores of both. Will not be using Automatch in any of my 22s. I've not had any leading problems with these guns using: Aguila, Rem Golden, CCI or Winchester. After reading some favorable reviews about Automatch, I decided to try it. The experiment failed!

 

LOL...realized that this thread started in March of 2023 about the Glock 44 (22lr) leading with Fed Auto Match (FAM). Then in almost a 1-1/2 years later the thread is hijacked relative Glocks and is redirected to FAM in a single action revolver and a MK IV pistol. IMO, a new thread should have been started. I went to the trouble of looking up the specs for the Glock 44 as well as the user manual to see what the recommended ammo was. Oh, well, I learned a great deal about something I will never use.

I must read the start date of a thread before opening the thread.