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I'd much rather fix it/get a new receiver but if not possible I'll probably sell and get a different 22

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Sorry to give you the bad news Mav but if you can fix it you may be the first. Our resident Mod Flysalot is the eggspurt of all the ways that don't work including tig welding if my memory serves. It is the Achilles' Heel of all the 597s.

 

I have a guy, he's an aerospace welder and he tried 3-4 times to fix mine with zero luck

I tried JB weld and no luck.

Safe to shoot? The stock will hold it, but I wouldn't.

I had one that was cracked and didn't know it for a while, no harm but it patterned. Sadly, that cover IS the receiver and as such it's a controlled part.

I wish I had better news. At one point I had 11-12 597's but I've sold them off for this and other reasons.

A gentle reminder no offering to buy in the discussion threads. (please)

 

If JB weld won’t fix it, it can’t be fixed.
Or so I’ve heard.

 

If JB weld won’t fix it, it can’t be fixed.
Or so I’ve heard.

it didn't fix mine sadly

 

Dang, does this happen to 597’s that are completely stock and have never been messed with?

 

Jesus, yea I just tried to JB weld and the JB steel stixk weld won't even Stick to both parts. W.e gritty surface there is that is gritty from the cast metal, JB won't stick to it.

Might throw a hail Mary and try the liquid 2 part JB weld but it looks like some of you guys have tried everything already.

Not even sure if it's worth trying to get another 597 after this. I hate having something everyone else does but maybe its 10/22 time.

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Yeah if I can get my hands on one I want to blueprint it and remake them out of billet and maybe make them available as 80% or something for future 597 owners with the same issue

 

Someone on reddit posted their successful 3D printed 597 upper receiver and they redesigned how the barrel mounts to eliminate this issue.

I'm not smart enough nor have a 3d printer but I'd definitely buy a new upper receiver. I found 1 of the remington replacement ones online for 37$ to an FFL but they're obviously sold out/discontinued.

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You guys were right and the JB weld putty didn't stick the the metal somehow. I called a union machinist and he was shocked cause he's never heard of that.

Through a hail Mary and went out to get JB Kwik Weld. Still good to 3k psi and hoping the liquidness will stick better. I'll find out in the morning its in the vice curing.

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You guys were right and the JB weld putty didn't stick the the metal somehow. I called a union machinist and he was shocked cause he's never heard of that.

Through a hail Mary and went out to get JB Kwik Weld. Still good to 3k psi and hoping the liquidness will stick better. I'll find out in the morning its in the vice curing.

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Just my experience. It will re-break. Been there done that. Pot metal just don’t work. I have thought about micro drilling a hole in both, then inserting some
micro rebar and then JB it. I think it would still require some additional on the outside face after some sort of roughing it up. Still it would be a MacGyver. I like fixing it myself also, but sometimes they just can’t be revived. Fix it and use it as a template to blueprint it. Someone could 3D scan it.

 

Any way you can share the link to that Reddit post? Yeah with Remington going out of business 2 years ago, sources of parts are unobtainium

 

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Rem recommended 35 inch pounds for the wedge bolt but that can easily be exceeded with an allen wrench hand tightening. 30"# is more than adequate IME with my 23yr old 597-22.

 

Safety/health before money. I know many people feel differently. Sell the good parts (barrel, bolt etc.) destroy the receiver, and move on. Sorry for your loss.

 

Receiver is already broken. Could cut it in half and sell it whole in a box as a ‘parts kit’ but I need the receiver pieces to reverse engineer to be able to remake out of a more suitable material.

 

This is really a trickle down of the causes of Remington going under. They began to cut corners, make parts too cheap (like the bolt handle, for one instance) and it turned around to bite them in the ***. The design is far superior to any other blowback semiauto I’ve seen in all my years, but the attempt to use bottom barrel materials and manufacturing processes was a huge mistake.

 

This is really a trickle down of the causes of Remington going under. They began to cut corners, make parts too cheap (like the bolt handle, for one instance) and it turned around to bite them in the ***. The design is far superior to any other blowback semiauto I’ve seen in all my years, but the attempt to use bottom barrel materials and manufacturing processes was a huge mistake.

There is nothing wrong with the design of the 597 and no proof that Remington cut any corners. If you look at the wedge block screw in the Op's pictures you can plainly see it is buggered up. Someone along the line of ownership over torqued that screw and the Op has paid the price for it. Like most .22 rifles, the 597 was built to a price point that necessitated using an alloy receiver. Same as the most successful .22 in history, the Ruger 10/22.

 

Hey guys, as you told me the JB kwik weld didn't hold.

I'm currently shooting dime groups again after I cut a ranger band and placed it under the wedge/back of barrel.

Just gonna get through today and not shoot it again until I get the new receiver. I am currently bidding on one. I have like 100$ in magazines and half of them are keep shooting ontop of the VQ parts so rather get a new receiver and use a torque gauge from now on.

Here is the post to the 3d printed one



Idk how that world works but good luck.

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I hope you can find a replacement receiver.

 

I attempted to fix one with Epoxylite, didn’t hold. This stuff is commercial grade epoxy that they use to make repairs and machine it. 2nd try: drilled through bottom edge with #45 bit in two places. Used bit shanks for dowels. Re epoxied, didn’t work. I don’t know what that metal is but when drilling it had a slight stink. I think that means high content of Arsenic, which is usual hardening alloy in soft metals. I wonder if the problem with 597s is a quality control issue with their alloy, not design failure.
The 597 wasn’t popular in this area so I don’t run into them that often. I live in small village in rural county. When I first went into business in 1975 I got a lot of 22s in for repair. I got an education on 22 rifles. Got many of the same models to repair. It was like a snapshot of what the local General Store sold the most of. Moral of story: certain model guns have their weak parts that break or wear out often. Makes it hard to pick up parts guns because same problem broke them down.

 

Since the receiver is buggered anyway. you might try to cross drill on the damaged side through the receiver and into the barrel block, then tap for a machine screw. Just a thought.

 

Thats not a half bad idea if im REAL gentle with a center press considering how brittle the metal appears to be.

If that soldering method doesn't work I might try that.

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Pot metal, Zamak alloy can be soldered with super alloy 1 with flux and a propane torch someone suggested you could use a heat gun instead of the propane torch I'd talk to a welder.

 

I'll look that up I've never heard of it but im not a welder. I have used those aluminum welding rods tho, sounds similar since its a low heat weld.



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Looks like there are no standards for pot metal alloys so results may vary but mos def worth a try Mav.

 

I just sent the idea to my buddy thats a machinist/welder to see what he thinks.

I'll definitely report back!

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I am unfamiliar with these rifles, but judging by your picture that wedge clamps the barrel upward against the top of the receiver. If welding doesn't work, I don't see a way to repair the receiver given the high load that wedge applies to the thin cross section that broke. As an alternative, it looks like you may be able to emulate the required clamping action by wrapping something over the top of the receiver that pushes upward on the wedge. I'm thinking a U-bolt, or if you want to be really cheap and tacky, maybe a hose clamp.

To be clear - I have no idea whether a U bolt would be a safe method of repairing this since I have never seen one of these rifles in person, but the pictures suggest that it could be - try at your own risk.

 

I bet something like that would in fact hold it in place the hard part would be getting it into the stock somehow again with a clasp or u bolt on it.

I'm gonna try the suggested soldering method first but I will keep that in mind!

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There is a receiver on Gunbroker right now: Remington 597 reciver - Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com : 936262726

 

Any luck with it yet Mav?

 

Sourced a new receiver, the new Remington Arms basically said "not their problem" as suspected.

So I was all over the internet and found 1 receiver for a 22lr. A handful for the 17 and 22WMR.

Got a wheeler torque wrench also lol

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I haven't read all comments but couldn't this be tig welded? Or has someone tried this method to?

 

Been done by another and doesn't work.

 

Aluminum / Zmak is a porous diecast alloy. No matter what you do for cleaning, there is an oil residue left behind. The metal is very reactive to oxygen. When you get the 'crack' hot enough to form a good fusion weld, the part is melted. It just the nature of the beast.

 

Great news!