All ammo/weapons shoot a little different. You need to experiment with all kinds and keep some notes. I have been going thru several types the past few weeks with my CZ 451 american and USARC Win 52. I finally got some CCI SV and tried it in my winchester and it was significantly and consistently better than all the others I tried. I was actually "cutting the first hole" at 25M. I was really suprised at the tight group and consistency. Fed auto match did well as well as a couple of other types but when I tried the CCI SV it maxed out as the best so far in the winchester. It was that significant. I am anxious to try it in the CZ just have not had a chance. the CZ shoots several types well so I am looking forward to seeing what this ammo does in it.

mw

 

Thanks ColMike, glad to hear that I'm not loosing it. lol

At first I thought it was just just me cause the federal would shoot a couple of good rounds and then poof, I would get a flier for a couple of rounds. I then would set up to do some 3 round groups and began adjusting the scope to try bringing the groups together, only to find that I was getting real frustrated. I gave up and began feeding CCI SV and immediately noticed that my groups ALL tightened and I was way more 'on target' than before.

Now I have to figure out what to do with the remaining brick of these Federals...lol

 

hold on to em. When you are just plinking around they are good enough for that. If you get another type of gun it may shoot good in it also. Just depends. At last count I had about 15 types of ammo in my box. Would have more but some of it can't be found in central MS and I am anxious to try some other types. My goal is to find the most accurate ammo for my CZ & Winchester 52 for the cheapest price. The CCI SV and Fed Auto Match seem to be coming out on top for me. I had some OLD Remington Golden bullets that did real well despite the banging they get here so I wil try a box of them next time I find some. It might be because they were several years old and they did em better back then??? Watching some of the threads here remington takes it in the shorts on accuracy.

m

 

Thanks and i will hold on to them.

Oh and I guess I should amend my original post a little. It seems as though what I have been shooting is CCI Blazer and it is out shooting the Federal. However, isn't CCI Blazer the same as the CCI SV? They both have the same specs. Anyway, the Savage seems to love the CCI Blazers and I can get them at $15.99 for 500 rounds.

Now, I do have 100 rounds of regular CCI SV that I will be putting to the test on my next outing. They were around $8.50 per 100 round box, so I'm praying that they shoot as good as the CCI Blazer.

Sorry for rambling...

 

I've had good luck with the Idaho-made CCI Blazers in the 500 round "brick" of boxes of 50.

Supposedly, although the specifications are the same, ammo marked as CCI Blazer comes from two sources. One type is made by the CCI factory in Idaho. The other type is made by the Federal factory (somewhere).

There also seem to be at least three types of packaging for ammo sold as CCI Blazer.

There is a bulk box that has 525 rounds loose in it.

There is a "Brick" of ten boxes of fifty that has an opaque plastic tray with legs.

And there is a "Brick" of ten boxes of fifty that has a clear plastic plate with holes in it, but no legs.

From another thread on here, I have read that the Brick with the clear plastic plates in the boxes of 50 is made by the CCI plant in Idaho. The bricks with the opaque plastic holders with legs are made by the Federal factory.

I'm not sure about the "bulk" boxes of loose rounds.

The "Blazers" are not rated as the same as CCI SV.

The CCI SV ammo is rated as 40 grain round nose at 1070 FPS muzzle velocity.

The Blazer ammo is rated as 40 grain round nose at 1235 FPS muzzle velocity.

So the SV is slower (probably subsonic) while the Blazers are rated as a "high velocity" ammo.

 

Wow! What a lot of info. Thanks for sharing. :bthumb:

After reading your post I have the CCI Blazers made in Idaho as they are a 500 round brick with 10 fifty round boxes. There is a plastic holder without legs in it. So far, having only tested them against Federal Champion, they are good ammo. Also the price is right.

I'm planning, hopefully at least making it back to the range Thursday and will be trying out the CCI SV and will be comparing these two.

 

pdshooter. I agree with you about the CCI SV. It seems to shoot between .5" to mostly .75" @50 yards in my BTVS. I tried every type of Federal ammo I could get my hands on. I have come to realize that my gun just does not shoot any Federal ammo predictable. Yes, I would get the 3 or four in one hole and poof. Sometimes I would get a 5 shot bug hole only to get the poof for the next 30 rounds. I wanted to find the best cheap ammo for my gun and I think the CCI SV is.

I went through 3 bricks of Federal 711b last summer and it seemed to shoot better than the CCI SV. When I bought more 711b I could never get the good consistent groups I did with the first 3 bricks I originally purchased. This was no matter how I tried tuning on my gun. I must have got the lucky lot number for 711b that time.

I finally took the good advice of our forum members and bought some Wolf ME and boy did my groups tighten up. Get the Wolf ME for serious shooting and the CCI SV for less demanding shooting. Good luck.

 

$15.99 for a 500 round brick of the Idaho Blazers is a very good price from what I've seen.

The local Sportsman's Warehouse had them for $17.99 per 500 a few months ago and then their price went up to $19.99 per 500.

So you're seeing a very good price on them!

 

I will add the Wolfe ME to my list on trials. Thanks for your info.

 

Yeah, the CCI Blazer ammo is high velocity ammo like most of the promotional ammo. It's okay stuff although I feel it is about the same as Federal 510 or 510B.

Which Federal Champion are you talking about in the comparison?

 

The CCI Standard Velocity ammo that I have tried has been better than Federal Champion and Blazer ammo. The CCI, SV has been more consistent than any other reasonably priced ammo that I have tried over a large group of firearms.

 

I need to try some of that (CCI SV).

I don't seem to see it for sale at the local stores. But if I ever do, I'll have to pick some up to see for myself. A lot of people on this forum do seem to like it.

But it's a "standard velocity" round, so I'm sure it's subsonic and as such, it's probably intended for target shooting, and thus, it's probably made with appropriate care and QC. From what I've seen just checking prices for it on the internet, it looks like it'll cost about double what the CCI Blazer or Federal Champion costs.

But that's really the difference. The Blazers and Champions seem to be "high velocity" rounds aimed at plinking and maybe some hunting, so naturally they're cheaper and I wouldn't expect them to be as accurate or consistent as the CCI SV which is something of a "premium" target load in their lineup.

I'd like to try some under conditions where I'd be able to really appreciate the differences. Maybe sometime this summer I'll do that.

 

An Update...

I just tried out my CCI SV vs. CCI Blazer. As I have already stated, I have decided that I really don't like Federal Champion, so this last trip to the range I only brought CCI SV and Blazer. What I have found is that they both shoot just about equally well, keeping in mind that I was at an indoor 50 foot range. The only difference that I really noticed is that the CCI SV shoots a lot lower than the Blazer, but once the scope was adjusted it was dead on just as the Blazer. However, I can see that if I'm going to use the CCI SV at 50 yards, I might have to shim my scope since it was almost adjusted all of the way up at 50 feet verses the Blazer was more flat.

I hope my findings make sense, as I'm really just learning as I go.

 

PDshooter, CCI SV is subsonic whereas the Blazer is high velocity so you will see a difference in droppage. Heck, I shoot everything in my gun and to keep from changing the scope settings I use the little dotted thingys on the crosshairs for alignment. I write down each ammo setting and use them as "offsets". While somewhat rough, it beats changing scope setting for every ammo. Pardon my terminology but I don't know what the little dotted thingys are called on the crosshairs. Willy

 

Great idea Willy, I might have to try using those mil-dots "the little dotted thingys on the crosshairs"

Next time I go out shooting, I'll make a few notes and see how that works out.

 

CCI SV - very consistent...

PD' - just wanted to add my 2 cents in for a big :t on CCI SV. I've used it exclusively in my Smith M41 (since 1992) and todays lots seem to be even more consistent.

In my Mossy 46A and 44US (generous chamber dimensions) the CCI SV shot just as well as the more expensive Wolf MT ammo. Boy was I happy after the series of range tests...