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Buy a 1022 target model or build one?

5.8K views 79 replies 40 participants last post by  blkntann  
#1 ·
Hi,
I've no experience with 1022s but I'm getting kind of interested in a target model. I'm pretty sure I'd want a good trigger and accuracy. Better to buy a bargain and start swapping out parts or get a new target model and not do a lot to it? At 50 yards I would like MOA accuracy.
I'd appreciate opinions on this.
Thanks,
Joe
 
#2 ·
In my experience, I'd build one. You can buy a Kidd barrel with a 1/2" guarantee. Nobody else is doing that, that I know of. If you want moa accuracy out of a 10/22, I see this as your only sure bet.

There are other ways of achieving this type of accuracy, but they're not guaranteed. I have a capable rifle that was re-worked by CPC that will shoot moa, but I have a second one that won't. I have two Kidd barrels. One with the guarantee and one without, but they will both shoot moa.

If you know what you want, I suggest getting what is proven to work even if it costs more and takes longer to build.

That said, I have no personal experience with the target models. I believe it's a crap shoot whether you get an actual moa shooter or not out of a factory 10/22 though.
 
#4 ·
Not sure the norm on the 10/22 T but my buddies wasn’t real accurate, after I bought my first Bergara B14R, he bombarded it with a very large investment of Kidd parts to keep up. It still was a little behind I guess because when we shot the last couple years he used his 1416HB Anschutz. He use to tell me the only thing still Ruger was the reciever and the stock. 😂😂😂
 
#5 ·
I vote for building one. Every 10/22 that I have purchased except for one has been modified. All have aftermarket barrels on them and upgraded/replaced triggers. The remaining rifle is a Ruger 10/22 stainless target that will eventually pay a visit to Randy at CPC.

S&P Outfitters has Ruger receivers for sale at a good price. Start with one of them.
 
#7 · (Edited)
1" groups at 50 yards assuming low/no wind and midgrade ammo isn't a difficult goal with many modern .22 semiautos.

And yes my stock 10/22 Targetlite has no problem achieving that.

Have fun whatever you do!

Frank

**Edit...I'm an idiot 1" at 50 yard is 2 MOA. Thanks for correcting me @Vincent and @epags !
 
#9 ·
1" groups at 50 yards assuming low/no wind and midgrade ammo isn't a difficult goal with many modern .22 semiautos.

And yes my stock 10/22 Targetlite has no problem achieving that.

Have fun whatever you do!

Frank
I always assumed the term of MOA to mean ~1" @ 100 yards thus maybe (the OP needs to chime in) 1/2" at 50 yards. Otherwise you are correct, easy peasy.
 
#11 ·
I vote build too. Modifying is one of the most fun things about the 10/22.

If you want to go factory route I’d suggest a LVT and upgrade the trigger to a Kidd drop-in then spend the money on a barrel if you don’t get your 1/2” groups at 50yds.

One thing to be very cognizant about is two rifles even the same model might prefer different ammo. That can be very frustrating finding ammo that groups well.
 
#12 ·
yup, I built my own too...unless there's a factory model that exactly fits what you want in the rifle, assembling your own is the best way to go..

of course that means knowing exactly what you want before spending any money for parts..

my version of the Target was quickly thrown together as a scope test rig for my nephew..it consists of a Ruger Target stock, a blued Ruger Hammer Forged barrel (has been swapped in to replace the Butler Creek barrel shown, since the pic was taken) and the rest is mostly anodized stuff from Pike Arms.. the receiver, charging handle, trigger housing (filled with a Ruger BX trigger internals), extended magazine release, and rings are all forest green anodized, and the bolt is nitride..and topped off with a (generously RFC member donated) Mueller APV scope..
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when you shop around, and pick stuff up on sales or closeouts, the price for a rifle like this isn't too bad...
 
#13 ·
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Building one is so much more fun. I bought all the working parts from S&P and got what I wanted. I then did the trigger with a Clark trigger kit and got it down to 1.8 pounds all mounted in a Stocky's Euro Stock that fits my needs. I added a 16 inch Feddersen barrel and this prints under 1/2 inch at 50 yards with SK Semi Auto ammunition.

It doesn't take long to build one and you can pick and choose whichever parts you want and how much you want to spend.

Good luck and good shooting.

Steven
 
#14 ·
Hi,
I've no experience with 1022s but I'm getting kind of interested in a target model. I'm pretty sure I'd want a good trigger and accuracy. Better to buy a bargain and start swapping out parts or get a new target model and not do a lot to it? At 50 yards I would like MOA accuracy.
I'd appreciate opinions on this.
Thanks,
Joe
Build baby build, but you can start off really close , https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/custom-10-22-voltsquatson-kidd-clark-custom.1304539/unread
 
#17 ·
I say build it yourself from individual parts.....heck you could build a "1022" without one single Ruger part....it depends on what you want to spend and the availability of parts to complete your design in a timely manner. It's a semi, and yes it can be made accurate...semi accurate :giggle:.

One thing about building from ground up...you will know your rifle inside and out...it can be a very intimate experience :oops:
 
#19 · (Edited)
I wouldn't buy Ruger for a built 10/22 that will do MOA. Either build your own or buy one from a well known brand, KIDD, TK, VQ, TacSol, there are others to consider. If you but a Ruger you'll just replace everything anyway, so why buy it in the first place? Cry once, not twice.

My 50 year old Ruger 10/22 was OK but still not MOA. My Charger bought a few years ago, had unacceptable accuracy. I went to a TacSol barrel and that turned it into a tack driver. You can buy Ruger parts from suppliers if you want to go that route to keep expenses down, and put on the barrel and trigger of your choice. I think those would be the 2 items with the biggest impact on accuracy. If that doesn't do it then send it out to be reworked.

What did I do for my last 10/22? I wasn't going to play games and I stretched the budget and got a KIDD SG. No disappointment from day one but they're expensive. There are other makers of quality 10/22s.

OH, and a shooting buddy bought a Tikka, I think he was having issues with it. It shot best with ammo that just wasn't capable of giving him what he wanted. Better ammo and that rifle didn't get along. He bought a Ruger LVT (is that a model?) and was very disappointed in the accuracy. He saw a KIDD SG for sale in the classifieds here, bought it and loves it. Nothing bad to say about it. I haven't talked to him about the various rifles but I suspect the LVT will be sent to a new home because he was NOT happy with it. But the dust hasn't settled yet.

There are so many ways you can go. Good luck with whatever you decide.
 
#20 ·
Wow! Thanks for all the input! Sounds like building one is the way to go. I had no idea there were so many suppliers for 1022 parts. I guess I'll start doing a little research and see what looks doable. I'm not in any hurry to get this done as I've got other .22s to shoot. Half inch at 50 yards is kind of the goal, but I'll probably happy (at least for a while) if I get close to that. Thanks for the pics of the nice looking rifles.
Just shooting my old 52 winchesters I've found finding ammo they like to be a lot of fun, if somewhat frustrating at times. Stuff you think should be good just sucks and sometimes the cheap stuff surprises you. Also it's kind of surprising that $25 a box ammo is in such demand that you can't even get one to try.
 
#24 ·
Be prepared to go deep when you start building from custom parts. I picked up an new LVT in a Hogue stock at a very good price and it's shooting MOA or better with preferred ammo right out of the box. I put a tuner on it and I can get even mid-grade ammo to cooperate and stay very close to or just under MOA.
 
#26 ·
Accuracy cost money, sort of like speed how fast do you want to go?

Depending on the amount of dollars you want to contribute you have some good referrals already to meet your goal.
Cheapest would be buy a stock Ruger LVT model and send it to Randy at CPC to work his magic, my LVT came stock with a BX trigger which would work for most people.

Why the LVT, Randy has said the LVT barrels, even more so the blue steel ones are some of the best factory barrels Ruger is turning out so of course that increases the odds and add that with Randy's magic and truing everything up to optimum specs then you will very likely end up with a very good shooter.

Secondly bite the bullet and go Kidd, going to cost you quite a bit more but again Kidd guarantees all but a few of their really lite barrels to shoot at least 1/2" at 50 yards.
Not going to find anyone else pretty much will put that in writing.
Sure you pay for it but you are getting what you pay for.
Kidd also carries a much better resale value than a hodgepodge of different brands assembled at home in most cases.

Not saying other builds will not meet your goals at all but these two would be my first choices.
 
#32 ·
You can do what you want and whatever your funds allow. Me? I started in the 10/22 world and slowly slipped into the AR world. AR's? I built them piece by piece. Judiciously over time, as funds allowed and final decisions made as to what I wanted. It's not cheap to go that route, but I've got exactly what I want. I've only got one 10/22 now, and it's all aftermarket goods other than factory Ruger 10 round rotary magazines (of which I see no need to look elsewhere for those.) Again, judicious procurement of parts over time and get it exactly where I want it. The few factory 10/22's I bought years ago were nice in their own right, but nothing like my current build. I've actually done several 10/22 builds over the last few years (after all the AR's got built,) and they were are tack drivers. They've since been sold as I'm trying to pair down my arsenal to "just what I need, nothing more nothing less." I guess that comes with old age..

Anywho, good luck in your quest and do the internet research that is right in-front of ya. Wonderful tool to have. Blessings brother!