Hard to tell value, but if its in truely original, excellent condition, I would say $600+/-. If its been refinished (assuming wood only) I would knock that number down to around $4-500+/-.

Personally, I would take a BRNO over a CZ any day, but if you have your heart set on the varmint, this isnt it. I think it will shoot with a varmint, but it won't have the heft...obviously.

DW

 

Yep.........

 

So much is going to depend on how original it is. A good shooter with all the bits are usually in the $400+ range up here now. To be worth much more you would want to make sure it is original and not refinished, and has all the correct bits and pieces. There were lots of ex-trainers that were imported into Canada and have been mixed and matched and refinished so one that was all original would command a premium. I actively collect them and would be hard pressed to pay more than $600 for a really good one.
You probably aren't going to get as good a trigger as on a Varmint and there aren't any kits to improve them. That being said I personally really like the 2 stage trigger and have found they can vary widely in pull weight and feel between guns even after adjusting them.
I don't think you can guarantee it to be more accurate than the 452 but it should be a least equal.
If it was my choice I'd take the #1 over the 452 any day but I am more a collector than a shooter.

 

Besides asking yourself "Do I even want a Model 1?", we need to know what a 452 Varmint goes for in CA. I mean, without having a baseline for what a more-or-less standard rifle goes for in The Great White North, we are comparing apples and oranges. If the Varmint is a $500CAD rifle, perhaps the Brno is worth $750CAD, all things being equal.

For me, there is no comparison between the buttery smoothness of the Brno's action and that of the CZ. I have fondled many CZ rifles and tried to like them, but there is just something intangible about the older gun. I am NOT trying to make enemies here; the 452 is a beautiful gun for a really fair price. I recommend them to prospective 22 bolt gun buyers all the time, but if Brnos weren't so scarce, that is what I'd be pitching to my friends. :hide::hide::hide:

Another thing, and I could be wrong, but weren't the walnut Model 1 stocks checkered? Or am I confused?

Good luck with your prospective trade!

 

Another thing, and I could be wrong, but weren't the walnut Model 1 stocks checkered? Or am I confused?

I just picked up a Model one a few weeks ago with a Beech stock. Supposedly they came 3 ways. Beech, Walnut and Checkered Walnut.

 

An excellent unrefinished Model 1 is at least $700-800 dollars here, and if it's been refinished $600.

Got to agree, accuracy is going to be better than the 452 Varmint and the action is likely to be as smooth and slick as can be. And IMO, no rifle handles any better than the BRNO Model 1...it is one of the best designs ever. :t

 

An excellent unrefinished Model 1 is at least $700-800 dollars here, and if it's been refinished $600.

There haven't been many comparables lately, but I think your shooting a tad bit high...

The last "Model 1" I saw go for big $$ was actually what appeared to be an original, excellent condition TGF, which demands a premium in itself to collectors...it went for just over $700 with nearly 30 bids.

I've given up 5 M1's in the last couple years ranging from $250 (beater/project) to $450 (nice, original Deluxe with moderate wear).

It would have to be something extra special to be valued at $600 with a refinished stock or $7-800 if original.

No offense meant, but the OP needs realistic information.

DW

p.s. values for the US & Canadian markets are different...can't vouch for Canada prices

 

i bought one off the trading post in good cond. with a nice trigger for $300 last yr, a 1952 i think.

 

I have two Brno's, a TGF#1 and a #4. The number 1 was purchased off Gunbroker about three years ago for $325. I have the action mounted in a target stock with a big optic on it ( I have hand tremors and it's tough shooting off hand, so I shoot a lot from a bench). I have contests with myself to see if the #1 with scope can out shoot the #4 with the Brno Target Sights.

I don't think I could ever part with my Brno rifles for any amount. My heirs will have to sell them.

I did a Gunbroker search for completed items and there were no #1 sold recently. one very nice example had a fixed price of $650 and did not sell.

 

No offense taken, I'm just stating the prices I saw recently a Tulsa on the few BRNOs and the demand for really nice ones, which are hard to find, is pretty strong.

I think today a nice Deluxe would bring a good bit more than 450....

 

I went through a phase of wanting a #1,and since I attend a lot of gun shows, I kept my eyes open. But all I saw were too rich for my blood. Had I seen a nice one for $450, I would own it.

Perhaps it depends on where you are....As Timberbeast says, they were proud of them in Tulsa...this year, last year, year before....

 

Couple of random thoughts

If you really want "rifle X", then "rifle Z" probably won't scratch the itch.

That said, I would suspect that a majority of the folks who have owned both
would give a slight edge in desirability to a "mint" BRNO Model 1 over a CZ 452 Varmint.

Even though a classic style sporter and a Varmint are somewhat different animals.

The number of truly "mint" 65 +/- year-old rifles is small.

I like both of my Model 1s and my 3 CZs: don't regret getting any of them.

 

Have no idea what the values of guns are like in Canada. Actually, not great figuring them out here either So, can't say what the value of either a CZ 452 Varmint or a M1 Brno might be.

I will say, I've owned a Varmint, along with about every type of CZ rimfire you can own. And I've owned some Brnos, about every type of rimfire model you can own. Hey, sounds redundant...

To me, for a sporting rifle, there's no comparison between the M1 and a Varmint. I like the M1. Just feels right to me. Handles great, shoots great. I will say I love two stage triggers, but the M1 version isn't what I'd call great. For hunting its fine, but that's about it IMO. Yes, you can tweak them but its just a basic design and you can only do so much with it. A 452 trigger, or even a M2, 4 or 5 Brno trigger is better. Again, my opinion only.

If you were interested in shooting off a bench, then the Varmint would be better. The stock would be easier to use on a bag. For use in the field, or just shooting off hand, I like the M1 much better. But only use mine for hunting or plinking anyway. The Varmint isn't bad for freehand shooting, and actually doesn't do bad. But I just prefer the M1.

As to accuracy, all the CZs I own are very very accurate. With about any ammo, they do fine. With match ammo, they do very well. But, for some reason the M1 is just really really accurate. It shoots even basic bulk ammo better than any gun I've owned.

For me, for a field gun the M1 easily wins. For something that might get shot off a bag a lot, maybe the Varmint might be the best choice.

All of this is just my opinion.

Oh, have owned two M1's. Both were a shade over $200. Both weren't pristine, but easily enough fixed up to look really nice. Sold one, still have the other. It will stay for a long long time.

Kenny

 

Well geez guys, I don't know much about the Czech rifles but I really like my tgf and Maple stocked M1, I own one Varmint now, have had several others but there is no comparison if you're going get up and move with the rifle.