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Are the CZ 455’s a bad choice?

4.6K views 41 replies 27 participants last post by  ohlongarm  
#1 ·
Hi all, I’m new to the forum and fairly new to precision rimfires. I’ve always had a 22, mostly for chickens and plinking but recently I’ve decided to get a more accurate 22 to shoot off the bench just as a more serious hobby I guess.

Anyhow, without doing a whole lot of research I found a decent deal on a CZ 455 so I bought it. Now after researching them a bit more there doesn’t seem to be a whole lotta love for the 455’s with a lot of guys leaning towards the 452’s. Most of what I’ve watched on YouTube (which was where I did most of my original research) seemed to be very positive, it wasn’t until I started reading on forums that I noticed a lot of the negative comments.

My question is, did I jump the gun on a 455 or are a lot of these comments from guys who have 452’s and just don’t like change?

Thanks.
 
#3 ·
Very satisfied with all my 455's, remember folk's perceive older is better, some times yes, sometime not so much. Today everyone is clamoring for a new 457, but the QC isn't really any better than a 455.......and it still has the same barrel retention systems some dislike.

You did good with your 455, it will serve you well for many years, old motto......"don't over think it", it's true.
 
#4 ·
Don't let the 455 detractors get you down. We have 452s, 453s, and 455s. The 455s shoot right there with the 452s and 453s. Having owned two dozen or so CZ rimfires, now, there's some things I like about each series, but I couldn't prove any one series is more accurate than the others.
 
#6 ·
I haven't gotten to take any photo's yet...... I haven't even seen a CZ in real life yet that I know of lol. I just bought the rifle off of CGN, a local forum, yesterday.

I'd like to find a Boyd's pro varmint or a Manners MCS-4 for it.

Here are the pics the fella sent me though.

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#8 ·
My first CZ was a 455FS 22lr and it's a tack driver out of the box. My second is a 455 Trainer and while I haven't had much time to really see what it likes to eat, I'm more than happy with the way it's shooting with cheap ammo. I just bought a 452 American, not for any perceived superior accuracy but to buy one before their gone. I can always pick up a 457 latter.

I don't think you'll be unhappy with the 455 once you find out what diet it prefers and get to know the little quirks such as action and barrel tension unique to your rifle. Many people think that every rifle should shoot the same out of the box so they label one rifle brand or model better than the other. The fact is that each rifle from each manufacturer is an individual and will perform to a greater or lesser degree once the correct combination is found to unlock the sweet spot. Keep in mind that every once and a while every manufacture produces a turd you can't polish too. My advice is buy the 455, shoot it, have fun with it, they are a blast!
 
#9 ·
The scope wasn’t included, I have a Burris E1 laying around I’m going to throw on it for now but I think I’ll throw a Cabelas Covenant 4-16x44(?) with tactical turrets on it. My son works at Cabelas so I’ll get it for 45% off so worst case scinario it’ll be a cheap experiment, lol.
 
#10 ·
If you're a tinkerer and you find yourself wanting more from your rifle, you bought the correct model. The switch barrel system will allow you to drop in a Lilja barrel down the road if you so choose. The 452 would be a more serious gunsmithing operation if you wanted to upgrade the barrel. Trigger systems are pretty much a wash between the 2 models.

The thing to watch out for with either model is this... Do you remember the old Lays Potato Chip commercials? "Nobody can eat just one".. Well, nobody can own just one CZ either. You may as well start planning space for the next one. ;) :D
 
#12 ·
I like to tinker, I'm not scared to do basic gunsmith work, and I have little OCD when it comes to accuracy. I'm looking forward to getting this rifle, I haven't shot it but I'm already planning on doing a glass bedding job on it and probably install a yoDave trigger kit on it for starters.
 
#13 ·
Hi all, I'm new to the forum and fairly new to precision rimfires. I've always had a 22, mostly for chickens and plinking but recently I've decided to get a more accurate 22 to shoot off the bench just as a more serious hobby I guess.

Anyhow, without doing a whole lot of research I found a decent deal on a CZ 455 so I bought it. Now after researching them a bit more there doesn't seem to be a whole lotta love for the 455's with a lot of guys leaning towards the 452's. Most of what I've watched on YouTube (which was where I did most of my original research) seemed to be very positive, it wasn't until I started reading on forums that I noticed a lot of the negative comments.

My question is, did I jump the gun on a 455 or are a lot of these comments from guys who have 452's and just don't like change?

Thanks.
455's are horrible. Once you receive it let me know and I'll dispose of it for you.
 
#15 ·
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I haven’t gotten to take any photo’s yet...... I haven’t even seen a CZ in real life yet that I know of lol. I just bought the rifle off of CGN, a local forum, yesterday.

I’d like to find a Boyd’s pro varmint or a Manners MCS-4 for it.

Welcome to the CZ world :eek: :bthumb:

l just finished doing over my CZ455 Varmint, it now sit in a Boyds pro varmint bedded and pillared and 8 oz trigger.

Your fun is just starting along with some minor headaches.
 
#16 ·
I think I got a good deal on it. The previous owner says it’s seen about 500rds through it, I got it for $485can which works out to $365us delivered to my house. It looks like it’s in excellent shape, hopefully I can find a Boyd’s or Manners stock for it before I put any scratches in it :yikes:
 
#18 ·
Rick sez you can't own only one.. I think you can. And if I'm right, you might have "the one" !
I don't remember seeing that rifle on Nutz.. which is a good thing, otherwise one of us would have been ticked off at the other. Beautiful wood, hopefully it's a good shooter. Most of them are. I'd shoot it for a bit in the original stock before swapping wood, something that pretty deserves to see the light of day. The Varmint stocks are pretty good off the bench with the flatter fore end profile and greater mass.

I just sold my 455 American, so I'm down to one CZ. Thin ice in this crowd..lol. It also had tiger-stripe-itis, selling that rifle hurt me. I think the new owner smiled when he opened the box though. Share the love.

The rifle I kept is a 452 Varmint in .22 LR. It'll shoot better than I can, although the wood isn't as sweet as yours. My 455 shot well too, I just prefer the greater mass of the Varmint style rifles.

If you do get the bug and feel the urge for a 452 heavy barrel, Prairie Gun Traders in Saskatchewan still has new .22 452 Varmints for sale. I'm told they're good to deal with.
 
#19 ·
Rick sez you can't own only one.. I think you can. And if I'm right, you might have "the one" !
I don't remember seeing that rifle on Nutz.. which is a good thing, otherwise one of us would have been ticked off at the other. Beautiful wood, hopefully it's a good shooter. Most of them are. I'd shoot it for a bit in the original stock before swapping wood, something that pretty deserves to see the light of day. The Varmint stocks are pretty good off the bench with the flatter fore end profile and greater mass.

I just sold my 455 American, so I'm down to one CZ. Thin ice in this crowd..lol. It also had tiger-stripe-itis, selling that rifle hurt me. I think the new owner smiled when he opened the box though. Share the love.

The rifle I kept is a 452 Varmint in .22 LR. It'll shoot better than I can, although the wood isn't as sweet as yours. My 455 shot well too, I just prefer the greater mass of the Varmint style rifles.

If you do get the bug and feel the urge for a 452 heavy barrel, Prairie Gun Traders in Saskatchewan still has new .22 452 Varmints for sale. I'm told they're good to deal with.
It just happen to look on CGN right when the rifle was listed, he never even had the pictures posted yet. I pm'd him my cell number and he texted me pics. Sold, probably one of the quickest sales ever on CGN.

The seller shipped the rifle yesterday, I just checked tracking and I'll have it today!

You wouldn't happen to know the best place to pick up a Boyd's or Manners stock would you?
 
#22 ·
Welcome! Your last line in your top post nails it. The 452 folks didn't like 455s, now the 452 & 455 folks aren't sure of the 457s & so it just goes on & on. With the 455 you can change to different calibers very easy & they are accurate & can e accurized yourself for very little money or work. Pillar bedding, action bedding, etc. Yours has a nice stock if you do change it & want to sell it let me know in a PM. Again Welcome & enjoy a top quality rifle! :D
 
#24 ·
Truk505 - Welcome to the RFC and congratulations on the acquisition of your CZ 455. I think you will be very happy with your decision. I have CZ 452's, 453's, 455's, & 512's in various configurations and am pleased with all of them. I installed an ACE #144 trigger spring ( $.89 upgrade after many months or years ) to improve the trigger pull on some of them but other than that; I clean them, shoot them, and get decent results at or near 1 MOA. For an old guy that is not as steady as I used to be, I am pleased with that. I have (4) 455 Varmint's in various configurations that I tend to shoot off the bench, off-hand, or prone for target shooting and am pleased with all of them.

Usually the better the ammo the better the groups, but there are always exceptions and as noted . . . Your Milage May Vary. ;) For bench shooting mine seem to prefer SK Rifle & Pistol Match when I am after small groups.

In the future, you have a platform you can upgrade if you feel the need too.

Enjoy the rifle and watch out for the RFC CZ enablers . . . :) :D :t :bthumb:
 
#27 ·
Well I’m hoping this one is a sub half moa right out of the box but I’m not too worried if it’s not. I want to get a Boyd’s stock for it, then see how it shoots. If it’s not 1/2 moa then I’ll bed it.

I bought this rifle to shoot little holes off the bench, it would be too boring if it does it right off the bat. Worst case scenario I’ll end up throwing a Lilja barrel on it I suppose :)
 
#28 ·
I have a 455 American and a 455 Varmint both are out of the box stock except they have scopes. I use SK Magazine ammo and Wolf. Both rifles can shoot sub ½ inch groups at 50 yards. If I was better I could do it consistently and maybe reduce the size of the groups.

Point is, I think the 455 is a fine rifle. You may outgrow it some day but until then, have fun. :bthumb:

The other Hector
 
#31 · (Edited)
The rifle arrived

It's in excellent shape as advertised, the trigger is really nice on this rifle, no creep and breaks really nice. As nice as this stock is I still think I'll be buying a Boyd's pro varmint for it, I doubt it will see much hunting anyway. I can't wait until I can get this thing out and do some shooting with it, but right now we're stuck in a deep freeze with -20C as a daytime high. Probably be a week or two before I can get out.

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#35 ·
It's in excellent shape as advertised, the trigger is really nice on this rifle, no creep and breaks really nice. As nice as this stock is I still think I'll be buying a Boyd's pro varmint for it, I doubt it will see much hunting anyway. I can't wait until I can get this thing out and do some shooting with it, but right now we're stuck in a deep freeze with -20C as a daytime high. Probably be a week or two before I can get out.

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Nice looking rifle.. it's one area where CZ really has very little competition in that price range. If it's a good shooter (95% chance it will be) you really have the best of both worlds.
 
#32 ·
Did you make a "bad" choice? No.

Could you have made a "better" choice? Sure. But isn't that the story with anything in life, and usually entails opening up the wallet a little wider.

Personally, I've had both 455's and 452's. The 455's are now gone, in favor of the 452's, so I guess I'm one of "those guys". ;)

However...... I'm teetering on the edge of getting rid of all of my 452's as well, so take that for what it's worth.

It looks like you bought a Varmint. I like it. Those, along with the Americans, are the only CZ's I'd consider owning, based on stock styling. Others are just the opposite, and love those hogback stocks.

I guess to sum up my ramblings, no, you didn't make a bad choice. I'm betting it will serve you well, and is a tinkerer's dream. There is always Choice B, that's "better", or "different", or whatever, depending on who you ask. But that goes both ways, and you'll find guys that say that your Choice A is the way to go.

In the case of a CZ 455, it is very rarely a "bad" choice.

Go shoot it, swap stocks, play with the trigger, find what it needs to shoot it's best, and have fun!