I have both (AR is 5.56) but honestly I have more fun with the 10/22. Its really just a matter of which you would rather have, but my vote goes for the 10/22, either one you choose you have a nice build list for both.

 

Since you're not building a super target 10/22 why would you spend that kind of money for one???

Just my opinion and it's your money but that's just crazy. I'll put my Nemo'ized carbine up against any plinker.

 

good point on the price vs not a super target build, i had considered taking the KIDD trigger off of that list, that would tip the favor of the 10/22 because now there is a huge price difference. 1600 to about 900 total

 

sig 522? $399 :bthumb:

 

what he said, our any of the other ar type .22's.

if your gonna spend 1000$/1500$ you would be crazy not to get a full Kidd rifle, if nothing else for the resale value.

 

If you already have an AR, then build a nice upper for it. If not, a full Kidd build would be nice.

 

I've got one custom, or "ultimate", if you prefer, 10-22, another in progress, a stocker with Hogue stock, Timney trigger, Que bolt, Tech Sights, etc., and they are all fun to shoot, but hands down for plinkin' fun, I like my S&W 15-22 the most. I never thought I would like an AR type 22, but I was wrong, they ARE fun! :bthumb::bthumb:

 

The Sig sounds like a good middle ground for the price.

 

Could be, anybody shot one?

 

1. SIG522 classic……………………………………………….…..500.00
2. SIG 25rnd mags 2EA…………………………………….……..50.00
3. Black dog 80 rnd drum…………………………………….….80.00
4. Vortex diamondback 4-12x40 scope……………...…189.00
5. Sig STOPLITE STL-300J……………………………………….164.00
6. Tactical bi-pod…………………………………………………...21.00
7. TAC. Sol. Suppressor…………………………………….…….30.00
8. Sig Sauer mounting rails……………………………………..20.00
9. Magpul Rifle sling……………………………………..……….50.00

Total……………………1104.00


already been down that road, handled one, love the feel of it, but the BIGGEST thing that turned me off from them was the lack of aftermarket parts for it, and that goes for all of them, even just the regular factory parts, so if i have a problem, i have to send it off to get it worked on...not cool

After looking at the complete kidd build, that is pretty sweet for about a grand. I wouldn't have to buy a 10/22 if i got that right and what about registering it. Also, would I have to shoot match grade out of it because I have read that shooting regular brick ammo would not do to well in that barrell. I have also calculated it to weight about 7.5lbs or so with a scope, is that to heavy for a backpack rifle?

 

If youre wanting to go the AR plinker route, then how bout a Smith and Wesson M&P 15-22? I handled one recently at a gun shop, nice feeling gun with quad rail and all the goodies. Not to mention around a $400 price tag.

 

I have handled both and personally i like the Sig522 a lot better, i have heard they are a lot more reliable as well and i can get one for about 430.00

BTW...for the price of a kidd build, i could build the 10/22 i have listed AND get the sig522 for the same price

 

My vote (for what it's worth) goes to the AR-15 with a dedicated 22lr upper. One gun that serves all purposes. 223 for varmits, 22lr for plinking, squirrells, rabbits and practice, and a brand new 7.62 covert for deer sized critters. By using the same AR platform for all those caliburs, you will really get to know your rifle well and will learn to be very proficient with it. AND, IF you ever decide you want to SBR it..................you can shorten all the barrels (IF you want) for $200

JMHO
swampf0x

 

thats great, yea just throw a wrench in the gears huh...lol, j/k

the only thing i came up with last night about the AR build was that the gun would probably weight in the neighborhood of 8-9.5 pounds, that is really heavy when you are hiking a couple of miles with it, but i could be wrong.
I got the weight of all the pieces but had to guess at the lower with the LPK, tube, grip, and spring at about 2.5lbs or so

 

They're all heavy at the end of the day.

 

I'm with SwampFox. I don't know what else you've got in your "arsenal", but the interchangeability of AR uppers holds a great deal of appeal to me. I (currently - job market sucks for me) personally don't have the $ to put into an AR setup as I'd like.

My FIL bought a S&W .22 and while it's fun to shoot, I bang my head wondering why he didn't go with a "real" lower and a .22 upper to start out with. It's his money though, and I'm just happy to have access to another gun to plink with.

That being said, I bought a used full Kidd built a while back and while I feel I paid a fair price, I can attest they do hold their value well. I'd also say that the accuracy of a full Kidd is beyond what you're looking for. Kind of contradicting myself, Kidd barrels are often reputed for shooting "any" ammo well. You might find some cost/benefit value in that depending on how much you shoot.

 

I like both rifles and own both (AR is 5.56, but have the conversion kit carrier)...

for all around fun shooting at anything that moves i would say the AR platform, mainly because the only thing I can say negative about the 10/22 in comparison, would be the Magazines.... I hate the 10/22 magazine design for your purpose...

The AR magzine is easier to swap, change, drop etc, and carry... and less awkward feeling...

just my .22 cents

 

Wow for the prices shown, I bought an AR 15, .22 CMMG bolt, 2mags, and a 10/22. $1143 and change. If you want AR style and function, SW M&P 15/22, mine gets shot more than any other gun I own, over 10,000 rounds now and only a few (maybe 10) hiccups. NOT counting mag loading problems caused by inexperienced loaders, and bad ammo.


If you wanna build a 10/22, save $120 and get an ER Shaw barrel, and another XXX try working on the factory trigger first. hold off on some more parts, until you see how the stock parts work, and save even more.

 

Check out the Zimmerman Arms 10 22 if you haven't already. For $1600 you should be able to build a Zimmerman 10 22 and an AR in 5.56.

 

You can knock off quite a bit of money on the AR if you just buy an Olympic Arms K16. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=olympic+arms+k16&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&cid=14713562832648539839&os=sellers

It doesn't have rails but do you really need them??? And if so, you can always add them later. Then you can buy a 22lr kit or a complete upper. You can change the stock out at anytime but there really isn't much benefit to it IMHO.

swampf0x

 

After much deliberating, the AR will probably not be the best option. I would be to scared to really do much with it for the fear of scratching it or dinging it.
I believe the best option for my needs with going a little overkill(just for the sake of it) would be this

1. KIDD light weight SS black barrel…………………………………….………220.00
2. KIDD bolt(Black)……………………………………………………………………..100.00
3. KIDD receiver(Black)……………………………………………………………….200.00
4. KIDD charging handle(silver)…………………………………………………….35.00
5. KIDD bolt buffer………………………………………………………………………...6.00
6. KIDD single stage trigger(Black)………………………………….…………..235.00
7. Hogue over-molded stock…………………..…………………………….………75.00
8. Mueller 4-16×50AO Sport Dot……………………………………………......209.00
9. Leapers UTG med. 1” Scope rings………………………………………...…….9.00
10. Shooters Ridge Adjustable Bipod 40853(optics planet) ……..…….28.00
11. Blackhawk cheek pad(opticsplanet.com)…………………………………..13.00
12. Sling…………………………………………………………………………………….…..25.00
13. 25 rnd. Ruger mag. 3EA...........…………………………..………………………90.00


Total……….1245.00


simple, clean and super accurate to hit anything i aim at pretty much.
I plan on getting the wife the SIG522 so i would be able to have both worlds

BTW: if you have any ideas or revisements, feel free to devulge

 

my opinion is x out the butler creek mags and get the new ruger 25 rounders.

 

Sweet, did not know they started making those, the last time i did a build sheet and was checking the mags, all they had was the BC ones.

 

One other consideration when it comes to 10-22 mags would be the Tactical Innovations TI25 mags. Aluminum or composite they have a proven design with great durability and ease of maintenance/cleaning. Also, one other option you may want to consider adding would be the auto bolt lock for the last shot since your going custom.:AR15firin