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An excellent Marlin Model 38 video

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6.3K views 10 replies 5 participants last post by  NHcollector2  
#1 ·
from Milsurp Garage. I looked at a Model 38 at a shop today but didn't know anything about them. It was priced at $699, it is in quite good condition overall. Not really knowing about them I offered $650, which was accepted. The shop is going out of business and is not accepting checks, the owner said it had to do with COVID and the bank, don't know about that. Anyway, I had a low interest credit card check but didn't want to use a CC so we didn't do the deal. From what I have found $650 is a decent price, I'll probably go back Thursday with cash. I learned from the video how innovative these rifles are, I'd like to have it.

 
#2 ·
Quite an informative video, I think he is however wrong on a couple things - the Swebelius sight seems to have only been used on the Model 32 and the early Model 38's marked 'Marlin-Rockwell" and is quite scarce, also the round Barrel Model 38's are the least common.

The 32's & 38' have a very smooth action.
 
#3 · (Edited)
Quite an informative video, I think he is however wrong on a couple things - the Swebelius sight seems to have only been used on the Model 32 and the early Model 38's marked 'Marlin-Rockwell" and is quite scarce, also the round Barrel Model 38's are the least common.

The 32's & 38' have a very smooth action.
I reckon I'll go back Thursday and buy the rifle. I have a 20A and a pre-war 39A, well made rifles.

Edit: I went back yesterday and bought it, it is quite nice. They had a Remington Navy Rolling Block in 50-70 hanging up, not bad, the bore is shootable but has areas that aren't so great. I have one in .43 Spanish, ammo is VERY expensive and I haven't gotten any, I'd really like to find one in 45-70.

But on that outing I stopped in another gun shop and bought a 4-5 pound bag of mixed ammo, a lot of .308 blanks and other random stuff, but there were 19 rounds of .32 rimfire shot cartridges, the ones with the wooden bullets over the shot. I think there was someone on RFC recently who showed a box of those but I haven't found his posts.
 
#5 ·
I too enjoyed the video, but it was about three times as long as it needed to be. The guy had a lot of good information, most of which was accurate, but he's not a model of efficiency or organization. He implied that the Model 32 was the first "hammerless" pump .22. However, this title should go to the Savage Model 1903, and the Remington Model 12 also predated the Model 32 (1909). He also implied that Swebilius invented the sliding outer tube magazine, but it was originally developed, probably by Lewis Hepburn for the Model 1897.
While I really like the Model 32/38, and it had a lot of neat innovative features, it was just overly complex, particularly when compared to some others, such as the Model 12 and that marvel of efficiency and simplicity, the Marlin Model 20 and its brethren.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Bill, The magazine design was by John Mahlon Marlin and applied for Dec 7, 1891 and granted March 1, 1892. It was used first used the Model 1891's to replace side loading.

uspto.gov/US00469819

The button release magazines seem to have been included in C. Gus Swebilus's patent for an improved version of the Model 38 with a simplified lifter, filed in July, 1923 and granted June 1, 1926.

uspto.gov/US01587049
 
#10 ·
Thank-you gentlemen for filling in my knowledge gaps, I certainly have plenty of those.

There is some play between the receiver and the lower, I know there is some adjustment to be had, turning that small screw. My question is, in or out? Thanks.
I would try turning the little screw at the front of the takeup "wedge" to the left, or counterclockwise. This will let it protrude a bit more to hopefully take up any slack. Use trial and error. This may or may not solve the issue, however, and if you turn it out too much, it makes it difficult to separate the halves. I tried a drop of superglue on the hinge pin, and this helped mine a great deal. Just make sure to degrease the pin and let the superglue dry.