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41 "A" Auction, WOW!

4K views 20 replies 18 participants last post by  gunsmith10367  
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I guess it is all about how bad you want a high condition 41 with all the accessories. Personally I would not pay that much money for a A series 41. The one pictured is a beautiful example tho. There is a lot of 41s for sale these days. You just have to be patient one will come along with your name on it.
 
#8 ·
Having just acquired an older 41 after a long search, I can say that this price is what I'd call "high retail". Certainly not out of line, but indicative of two bidders who really wanted it battling it out. It's good news that there is such strong interest in older Smith's.
 
#10 ·
I recently picked one up off of Gunbroker for $850 with a cheap Bushnell red dot. It wasn't in spectacular shape, but after finding ammo it likes it runs pretty well and is a ton of fun to shoot.

Bottom line, they are out there for a somewhat reasonable price (even on Gunbroker), but you have to be patient and stick to your price even if it means you lose a couple of auctions.
 
#12 ·
If you were the owner of that gun, the best thing that could possibly happen played out right before your eyes. Two bidders who were not to be denied ownership of the gun. And the winner, the man on the way to the bank.
 
#14 ·
41

I'm amazed it went so high, but somebody wanted it, and someone ran him up the pole, as the guy bidding against him does not seem to have many purchases, and not anything from Woodlawn Boys, or other high dollar collector sellers.
Had this been something with 4 digits in the first 100 made, in mint condition, I would consider it.
I have purchased too many equally nice at far less.
Recently I purchased a 41-1 for only $1025.00 on GB, with 1 mag. I was worried about having to go above $1250.00 to get it, since someone had tapped the barrel for a scope rail, and then when removing it, broke 3 of them off.
The guy bidding against me had already paid $516.00 for a 41-1 magazine.
So I figured he would probably over pay for this pistol, although not stamped 41-1 I know the serial # range was above the 22221 range they started stamping 41-1.
I own 22221, which I thought I had purchased a 41 with a conversion kit.
This one I purchased was #21972, so it's highly likely to be another pre stamp.
I will be getting it lettered, the other bidder quit bidding at $889.00 and then went on to buy another magazine for $416.00, so all together he has just over $1000.00 in 2 magazines with no pistol. Go figure. If this pistol does not letter, I have an early 4 digit frame, that is not Fake Stamped 41-1, the slide and barrel would bring close or slightly more than I paid for the pistol, and the magazine and slide stop, light recoil spring, I would keep for my other 22 short kits I own.
If it does letter it will be getting a 98-99% slide and barrel mounted to it.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/893004944
 
#16 ·
early 41

The pistol is far from mint condition, its also a lot older than the other one, but still they over paid IMHO. If this other 41 looked like the newer model, I have sold them it the $1850.00 range a few years ago, and that's having the correct manual, which is not there with this gun, its a much later sheet, one magazine is the correct one that came with the gun, the other is a 12 round which didn't exist back then. Most of the early guns only came with one magazine unless the customer ordered it.
I purchased a 4 digit model 41 from an auction page, it was listed as for immediate sale, which meant it's not going through the auction. Box was mint, in the original manual, which has colored ink, in some areas, the original bill of sale, Dec. 7, 1959.
I thought what an amazing date. Also there was a set of olympic counter weights, with the 4 holes in the bottom. They later changed to only 2 holes, to make them easier and cheaper to make. $1000.00, it was an amazing find, even though we are talking 15-18 years ago. I still have the weights, but sold the pistol for $1800.00 some years later. # was 9689. Weights are still worth $400-$450.00. There are many great deals out there if your in the right place at the right time, and you know what your looking for. You don't want to over pay for something that is not original, wrong box, and seeing how the model 41's have inter changeable barrels, sometimes you need the factory letter just to know which barrel should be on it.
 
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I find this part of the market completely confusing. I can't warm to my Colt Woodsman because of the grip, and thought I might try a swap for a 41.

Looks like I might be able to get a 41 for $800 but it will orange with rust. An OK example is $1,000? Let's see what a Woodsman goes for. $700 or $1700?

I look at pistols with which I am far more familiar, and I see the same wide range of results. People get in bidding wars and pay hundred more than other items that have zero bids.
 
#20 ·
There does seem to be a few GB vendors who, by being consistently able to source at least a few
nice condition and interesting older guns, have developed a following of folks who will
bid early, bid often, and bid high . . .

Its the goal of every business, I suppose, but some are better at it than others.