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Just got back from the local gun shop..They have a NEW Winchester 9417 in the .17HMR. I actually was looking for a .22Mag but since they didn't have one, I started looking at the .17.

The fit, finish, trigger pull etc all seems quite nice on this particular rifle. Right now it is on hold for me.
Bye the bye. This rifle has NO lawyer stuff. It's just like the old days of half cock and full cock!!

In doing a little background, it seems that the Winchester 9417 were only two years, with last year (2004) being the last year. Is this right?

The only reason I'm interested in it, is the answer I gave the wife: "It's there and I don't have one!'' She said: "That's good enough reason!" You gotta love that "Girl"!

My main question...Is the .17HMR 'THE' caliber to get in the .17 Rim Fires? Please, I don't mean any offense and don't want to start a "War" with this question!
Maybe rephrase it better....Would this (.17HMR) be a 'better' example/representative of the .17's?

Thank You!
Regards, Jack
 

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AK..
Don't laugh!! I don't know the price yet! There was a tag on it and all I asked: "Is there room on this?" They looked and said yes!
I know it won't be a super, shop abound look for the cheapest deal. The store is local but they ALWAYS take care of me on EVERYTHING.
I've figured out that a "Cheaper" price winds up not so, due to FFL, shipping etc..and there is always the possibilty of faulty goods or lost shipments.

Funny thing....I haven't liked any Winchester for forty years (Especially the angle eject) but this one feels just like a turn of the century 1894!

Thanks for the fast reply!
I'll pick it up tomorrow!

The only annoying thing is the cost for a good .17 cleaning rod! I figure though, that with such a small hole, you BETTER have a quality rod!

Regards, Jack

It's a great shop. If you are interested in something used, you (and some of the 'staff') can test fire it out the side door! If it's new, you have to buy it first but you know right then if there is a problem.

They had a New S&W 500 in the case for a while and were anxious for someone to buy it so they could 'test' fire it for the customer! It did sell and there was some Serious testing done (I missed it!)!! Whenever I mention that S&W, the place goes wall to wall grins!!
 

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AK and crbrookie..
I AM going up tomorrow and get it. However, now there is "Another Delema"! Seems that I have skipped a whole generation of Rim Fire. I still don't have one in .22 Mag!! Then again: "Do I really 'need' one?"... PROBABLY!!......Yeah I do!!

I'm bad....and I still have the word out for a Win 1894 no older than 1920 in any caliber or configuration. This one I want a Face to Face purchase! ;)

Will the .17HMR barrel require extra care (As opposed to .22LR) due to the plated high speed bullet?

Regards, Jack

You should see the fit and finish on this rifle and it's as slick as greased ice with a light crisp trigger! The only glitch is the way the inner mag tube locks. It almost doesn't. I read on RFC a while back, the cure is an 'O' ring under the knob to tighten it up.
 

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Folks..
Thank you for all your input! It is now sitting in my den. I believe it is a 2003 Model 9417. The gun store treated me real well. It wasn't a $350 deal but not really too much over it when you add up all the stuff thrown in.

We have been having badly needed rain for three days but I should be getting to the range shortly the next time we have some sun which could be tomorrow or Sunday. It'll give me time to read all the paperwork that's in the box and to give it a rub down.

It seems that it might be a little pricey to feed....Oh well, thats life! Not as much as some of the other stuff though!

QUESTION! Are these 17 HMR's prone to ricochets or do they just break up on impact? Point being; if they hit a rock, etc. behind the target.

Oh! When I was leaving the house to go get it, the wife said: " I'll buy it for your Father's Day Present!!"

Regards, Jack

Bye the bye. I mentioned a 22 Mag when leaving the shop and they just threw stuff at me! I have baited their hook!
 

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crbrookie...
Oh, I HAVE the .22 LR's. Have been shooting a Win 67 since '49 and a Marlin 39A since '54. Yesterday I got the bug for a .22 Mag but they didn't have one. I was handed the 9417 and the love affair for THAT particular gun started. There is another one on the rack but I wouldn't even look at it!

Until yesterday, I would have bet I would NEVER own a 17 Rim Fire and I would have also bet that I would NEVER own an Angle Eject Winchester! It was that particular rifle that did it!
This rifle is like going back 75 years with the way it looks, feels and functions. It snaps to my shoulder with the sights lined up "Right Now" even with my eyes closed!
The frosting on the cake (For me) is it's a straight grip! Just like my '52 Marlin 336RC/.35 Rem.!

I'll eventually find the 22 Mag just to round things out!

Regards, Jack

Right now the 9417 is trying "To make nice" to my '36 Model 71 Winchester. I think they will become friends! :)
 

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Mike 103..
Congadulations on your find!
I found out mine (NEW) is a 2003 model. I had it out shooting yesterday and it is a hoot to shoot! I wasn't in shooting mode yesterday but the opportunity was there to go to the range so I jumped on it. I had trouble at first due to the hood (Too much shade, couldn't find the sight) but once I took it off "The Games Began! :)
I got better as the ammo supply dwindled. (50 rds)
One thing is for sure...It's an awesome plinker!! To me that translates to one shot=meat!

I found that the barrel gets rather hot fast. Guess if you can still touch it, it'll be OK!
It sure makes a tiny hole in the paper. Hard to see when you are used to .45ACP!

Like you, I'm still on the prowl for a .22 Mag.

Regards, Jack

Oh! I gave it a cleaning before going to the range and found out THEN it is a takedown!
Talk about buying something on impulse!!
 

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Mike 103..
I don't really know but there must be a reference of s/n to year of manuf. The shop told me that they got this gun in Feb (?) of 2003. If it'll help, my s/n is F760xxx.
I was only shooting "benched" about 50 feet. My eyes weren't to good yesterday and everything was blurry. My 'groups' were closing up the more I shot. The mirage from the hot barrel wasn't helping either.
I had hung up some small 3" pieces of orange clay targets and smoked all of them on the first shot. I got to where all I had to do was cover it with the front bead and Poof!!

I'll get the hang of the new toy though, just need to shoot it a LOT! Need some more time at 50 feet then move back to the 75ft bench for a while. Then down to the 50 yd lane. Eventually I'll get to the 100yd lane.
I have a tough time with rifle sights but since I got into handguns it's like being reborn. I can see everything at once, both sights AND the target!

Although I get a lot of range time, I don't really concentrate with any specific firearm. However I've been into the 1911 pretty seriously for about a month and a half. Then there's the new Buckmark Camper that I can shoot tighter each mag full...

Retirement can be hectic for a trip to the range: "Hmmm! What to take?" :)

Last fall I spent half a day at the range with a bunch of stuff. I wound up Plinking a box of shells through my Marlin 336/.35Rem and finished up in the evening with two rounds of trapshooting!

Regards, Jack
 
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