which scope is better

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Ryan MP

Discussion Starter · Jul 15, 2002

Right now I'm looking at the tasco world class TG 6-24x44 and the simmons m1047. They are both about the same price, I was just wondering which one is better quality, and which is a better buy. I would like a m1048, but with the recent price change, the 1/8th moa adjustments arent a big deal to me. Thanks in advance for your help.

-Ryan MP

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Viper

· #2 · Jul 15, 2002

Hey Ryan,

My advice to you is to buy the Simmons WTC18 in 6.5-20X50mm.

It is much better than the M1048.

The Tasco TG 6-24X44 is a TERRIBLE scope. It is actually only 40mm and it doesn't have caps for the elevation or windage adjustments. So, at any time, someone can come by when you are benchrest shooting, and move your adjustments.

JUNK JUNK JUNK!

You can ask ChiefDave about his too. We both got them on the same days, both had same questions.....Is it really 44mm? NOPE!
And, where the heck are my scope caps?! NOT THERE!

Go with the WhiteTail Classic from Simmons! They are even clearer than the M1048s and only $99.99 from SWFA.

Good luck!

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975

· #3 · Jul 15, 2002

the Simmons 1047 or even better yet the 1048. SWFA is the place to buy from!!

Ryan MP

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jul 15, 2002

thank you both very much. I'm htink I'm going to purchase either the wtc18, or 1047. But for the price. why not buy the 50mm, besides I already have a set of weaver extra high rings sitting around, why not. Thanks again.

-Ryan MP

claybuster

· #5 · Jul 16, 2002

Hey Viper,
Just rec'd a 6-24X44 Tasco from Natchez (the $99.90 sale).
It is the TS model, not the TG. Does have 44mm Obj, not 40mm (I measured it) Looks pretty good except I wish the cross-hairs were a little thinner - they are almost as wide as the 1/8 min. dot.
I have it mounted & bore-sighted, haven't shot it yet.

Hope it works out OK. If it doesn't, it ain't the end of the world. I only have a hundred bucks in it & I can get most of that back out of it at the next gun show, I imagine.

gagunner

· #6 · Jul 16, 2002

stay away from TASCO as they have closed & are looking for a buyer.I bought a 22MAG scope 2 months ago and it's a POS.AO ring hard to turn,power ring turns too easy worst of all cross hairs rotate about 3 degrees left or right under recoil or even releasing the bolt.this on a 10/22.have 2 wtc 17's(4-12X44) & a 1048 simmons,all are great for the money.Midway has aSimmons WTC 6.5-20X50 AO on sale for99.99 if you want a BIGGIE! SWAF has any thing you could want & good to deal with.good luck!

Coyote

· #7 · Jul 16, 2002

From my understanding Tasco did find a buyer. (Not 100% sure but I thought they said Bushnell)

Think if I did not plan on putting Stoney turret knobs on my 1048 that I would stay with the 1047 scope. I found nothing but problems trying to move the turrets back to 0 after loosing the two screws. The scope did not stay on POI. I have three of the 1048 and the same problem with each. SO if I ordered again it would be the 1047's of course from SWAF. They HAD? the best prices.

Ryan MP

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jul 17, 2002

white tail classic

I think i'm going to get the white tail classic with 50mm objective. Tthe only question I now have is, with this scope on my 10/22 with a weaver t09 base, a .920 barrel, and a boyds blaster stock, what ring will be comfortable to use. I like the sound of the burris signature, but would something else be better here. Also Ii already have a set of weaver dtm extra highs, but I want the best for this project, not what I can find the cheapest (or already have) thanks in advance.

-Ryan mp

Chief Dave

· #9 · Jul 18, 2002

I have three sets of Weaver DTMs. Mounted on three different scopes, I can swap around and not loose zero. BUT if I buy new rings, they'll be Burris Signatures. FWIW JL

Ryan MP

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jul 18, 2002

thanks

JL,

Thanks for the info, I'm not sure if xtra high rings are what I need or not, but I'll have to do some research on that. Thanks for letting me know that they will work good.

claybuster

· #11 · Jul 22, 2002

APOLOGY TO VIPER..........

Hey Viper,
I owe you an apology - not for what I said but for what I thought.
I kinda took your criticism of the Tasco TG6-24X44 with a grain of salt, thinking you'd had a bad experience with Tasco somewhere back down the line.

You were absolutely right...It is not only a POS, it's Piece Of CHINESE S%@t..... When did Tasco start manufacture in China?

Anyway, I sent the 6-24 back to Natchez. It was not only not nearly as clear as my old Weaver T16 (old El Paso Weaver, not Japanese), but the adjustments were erratic. They are advertised as 1/8 minute clicks. Well, sometimes they are less than 1/8 min. & sometimes over 1/4 min.

I rec'd the scope on Tues, mounted & bore-sighted it the same day; shot it on Wed & packed it up & mailed it back to Natchez on Thurs. That was a $16 lesson - $8 freight each way.

I'm thinking now I may send the T16 to Bill Ackerman & have the power boosted to 25 & the reticule changed to an 1/8 min. dot & extra-fine crosshairs. I can have this done for far less than a 24X scope of anywhere near comparable quality would cost.

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Viper

· #12 · Jul 22, 2002

claybuster,

No apology necessary.

It's not like you flamed me or anything.

You gave your first impression and that's all that it was. I really believe that this is part of the reason that Tasco went out of business.

If you could see that scope next to a Tasco TS series, it would make you wonder what happened at Tasco to make them produce such a junky scope.

But again, no apology needed. Thanks for the follow-up!

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claybuster

· #13 · Jul 23, 2002

Yeah, I can imagine the difference between the japanese 6-24 & the current chinese crap!

I'm definitely not a scope snob. I do have 3 Leupolds (a compact 6 w/ AO, Silhouette knobs & a 2 min. dot, another compact 6 sans the AO & knobs but w/ the same reticule & a 3-9) plus a couple of the great old USA made Weaver T models, a T6 & a T16 but I also have & use an old Tasco 3-12 Mag IV (great old scope, by the way), a Simmons 4x W/ AO, a couple of Bushnells, 1 w/ AO & 1 without. I also have a couple of the old Weaver K models, a K10 w/ AO & a K6. Plus several other "cheapies" of varying quality.

What I'm saying is I've used plenty of "inexpensive" scopes over the years and generally been pretty pleased with most of them. Can't say that about the current Tascos, though. At least not if the TG6-24X44 is indicative of their current quality level. I just wish I'd asked for everyone's opinion before I ordered it. Would have probably saved my the time, trouble & expense.

Have you seen a real current Simmons 1048? Still the same quality product? Just wondering if they too were making the move to China, Bangladesh or whathaveyou....................

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Viper

· #14 · Jul 23, 2002

I have 3 of the new Simmons M1048.

They are currently being produced in the Phillipines and are still of great quality.

I don't have any that are over a year old, so I can't really compare to "older" ones, but I do think they are one of the better quality scopes under $200.

Great scopes!

I actually think the WTC18s are better. Now, only if they would have the target knobs, like the M1048s!

They allow more light transmission and are clearer than the M1048s, in my opinion.

For under $100, it is definitely the best scope!

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· #15 · Jul 23, 2002

Viper,

I actually think the WTC18s are better. Now, only if they would have the target knobs, like the M1048s!

Actually, you can have the target knobs on your WTC18: Stoney Point makes a set of target knobs for the Tasco/Simmons scopes; #512-088 @ $49.99 per pair at "Midway"........

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· #16 · Jul 23, 2002

Viper,

I actually think the WTC18s are better. Now, only if they would have the target knobs, like the M1048s!

Actually, you can have the target knobs on your WTC18: Stoney Point makes a set of target knobs for the Tasco/Simmons scopes; #512-088 @ $49.99 per pair at "Midway"........

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Ryan MP

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jul 24, 2002

Thanks to all again! i am definatley buying a WTC18 as soon as the funds are available. I think it's well worth it. You are all a great help on this site. Thanks again.

-Ryan MP

20316

· #18 · Mar 3, 2005

tasco

Tasco this Tasco that but Tasco 3-x32 and Bushnell 3-x32 are made in china and are of the same line why would one be netter than the other

simmons line low end scopes are made in china
I had simmons and i had bushnell scopes in the same price range they are about the same
I have been using TASCO scopes for years now and did not have any problems whatsoever what kind of TASCO scopes are you buying i am wondering

20316

· #19 · Mar 3, 2005

tasco

Tasco this Tasco that but Tasco 3-9x32rimfire and Bushnell 3-9x32 rimfire are made in china and are of the same line why would one be better than the other

simmons line of scopes are made in china and many many others
I had simmons and i had bushnell scopes in the same price range they are about the same
I have been using TASCO scopes for years now and did not have any problems whatsoever what kind of TASCO scopes are you buying i am wondering

OldSwede

· #20 · Mar 3, 2005 (Edited)

aviomaster:

Jump into a thread that is almost three years old and you JUST MIGHT be dealing with some out-of-date information, eh?

BTW: There are GREAT differences between some Tasco scopes and some Bushnell scopes. Just saying "Tasco" or "Bushnell" doesn't give anyone enough information to make an informed choice.

IMHO, everytime we say "China" we should say "Communist China", but I guess I am in the minority, here.

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