My local range has small metal cans filled with water to put the duds into.
What do you do with "Duds"?
I pick up a lot of live .22 rounds at our range off the ground and out of the brass boxes. Obviously discarded whether because of FTF or other reasons.
If it was centerfire, someone would take it home and salvage it, but nobody wants old .22 rounds. More importantly, IMO, nobody cares what happens to them.
I'm fairly new at this range. When I've asked older members what to do with them I get answers like "stick it in the ground", "toss it in the trash", "I dunno".
I was shooting at a major indoor range a while back and had an FTF as one of the employees was walking by. He tossed it in the trash.
All those solutions bother me. Am I just being too fussy or do dud .22's deserve a better disposal method? I don't like putting live ammo, even an old .22 round, in the trash. What do you do?
BTW - I don't put anything in my guns that has been on the ground. That's not the answer, especially for old or mangled cartridges.
If it was centerfire, someone would take it home and salvage it, but nobody wants old .22 rounds. More importantly, IMO, nobody cares what happens to them.
I'm fairly new at this range. When I've asked older members what to do with them I get answers like "stick it in the ground", "toss it in the trash", "I dunno".
I was shooting at a major indoor range a while back and had an FTF as one of the employees was walking by. He tossed it in the trash.
All those solutions bother me. Am I just being too fussy or do dud .22's deserve a better disposal method? I don't like putting live ammo, even an old .22 round, in the trash. What do you do?
BTW - I don't put anything in my guns that has been on the ground. That's not the answer, especially for old or mangled cartridges.
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Then what happens to them?My local range has small metal cans filled with water to put the duds into.
Don't know, will ask. When I was in the service all duds and ammo deemed unuseable was put in the incinerator at the nearest weapons station.Then what happens to them?
Duds
Take an empty case and insert it over bullit side of 22 Long rifle. Bend and the healed bullet will just pull out. You can also use pliers and sqeeze the bullet then bend the case off. Throw in your brass pile after dumping powder into a soup can. Lead can go in scrap lead for bullet casting or fishing weights. Once you have a few onces of powder in the can throw in a match from a few feet away out in the open and enjoy the firework. I have heard of guys setting off rimfires under the lawn mower deck at the range. Be respecful of rounds that are not expended. A lot of guys will just take any old jam and throw it in the discard pile. I always try to fire off even the jams, just not for accuracy. rc
Take an empty case and insert it over bullit side of 22 Long rifle. Bend and the healed bullet will just pull out. You can also use pliers and sqeeze the bullet then bend the case off. Throw in your brass pile after dumping powder into a soup can. Lead can go in scrap lead for bullet casting or fishing weights. Once you have a few onces of powder in the can throw in a match from a few feet away out in the open and enjoy the firework. I have heard of guys setting off rimfires under the lawn mower deck at the range. Be respecful of rounds that are not expended. A lot of guys will just take any old jam and throw it in the discard pile. I always try to fire off even the jams, just not for accuracy. rc
EOD fun time
For us all squibs/duds/etc......were allocated to EOD......they eventually went BANG one way or another.....Don't know, will ask. When I was in the service all duds and ammo deemed unuseable was put in the incinerator at the nearest weapons station.
I used to worry about them. Now I just toss them in the the trash where the rest of them go. I am with you. If it falls on the ground, I don't shoot it. I figure that the wax lube picks up grit and sand.
Phrom da phone.
Phrom da phone.
I take dud rounds and rotate them 180 degrees so the firing pin will strike the rim on the opposite side of the previous firing pin strike. In most cases the rounds will fire. If they don't then they are truly dud rounds. I get a lot of free .22 ammo by salvaging them from the dud can.
I forgot to mention that this practice is best when used in a bolt action rifle. My Norinco JW-15 eats them with gusto (so does my old Mossberg). It is also a good idea to wipe off any grit or dirt that is found on them. Good luck.
There's several things I do with the duds I get. If I have a misfire I simply rotate the cartridge and if it doesn't fire on the second or third try I pull the bullet and keep the powder. The brass gets chucked in a fire to make sure no primer is left (there might be a one in a million chance of it catching something on fire) then I put it in the big jar with my other spent brass that I sell as scrap. The lead gets turned into new bullets for my other guns, and the powder gets used in my NAA Super Companion.
So far it looks like one vote for "don't worry about it" and several suggestions for disposal.
Our county Hazardous Waste collection location is close by and will take it off my hands (I've wondered if the guy takes it home, but not my problem). I'm trying to decide whether I want to be the only person going to any effort to collect and dispose of the stuff.
Our county Hazardous Waste collection location is close by and will take it off my hands (I've wondered if the guy takes it home, but not my problem). I'm trying to decide whether I want to be the only person going to any effort to collect and dispose of the stuff.
At the range we have a dud tube, I also don't know what happens after it is full. At home I push them nose first into the ground, figuring the dampness will not take long to make it harmless. I do this where it will not be disturbed for a long time, but then I live in the middle of 8 acres of woods so there are lots of place that don't get disturbed.
I break off the bullet, put the powder on the ground, and throw the rest away.
You could give them to your teenaged son to take to shop glass and put into the metal sho's casting furnace, a la Bill Cosby.
You could give them to your teenaged son to take to shop glass and put into the metal sho's casting furnace, a la Bill Cosby.
Well, old ammunition can be taken to fire stations, so I'd guess they would handle duds as well.
I just toss em, anywhere
I flush them same as I do when a Goldfish dies! Just kidding .. My range also has a can you toss them in.
Just kidding .. My range also has a can you toss them in.
Just me
I have my own ranges so this probably only applies to me. I can shoot either from outside benches or inside. I put the duds in a box then on a rainy day I pull the bullets, dump the powder and throw the cases in water with a tad of WD40 in there. That stuff will really screw up the priming compound. I throw the bullets into the casting pot.
I save, either rake up, or sweep up, all my brass, or as much as I can, and throw the unreloadable stuff in a 2gal or so plastic container. When it gets full I take it and the thousands of mashed aluminum soft drink cans, got 11 grandkids here most of the time and they are a shooten, down to a recyling center and get money for the stuff which promptly goes to my wife cause she says she pays for all the soft drinks so she oughta get the bread.
noremf(George)
I have my own ranges so this probably only applies to me. I can shoot either from outside benches or inside. I put the duds in a box then on a rainy day I pull the bullets, dump the powder and throw the cases in water with a tad of WD40 in there. That stuff will really screw up the priming compound. I throw the bullets into the casting pot.
I save, either rake up, or sweep up, all my brass, or as much as I can, and throw the unreloadable stuff in a 2gal or so plastic container. When it gets full I take it and the thousands of mashed aluminum soft drink cans, got 11 grandkids here most of the time and they are a shooten, down to a recyling center and get money for the stuff which promptly goes to my wife cause she says she pays for all the soft drinks so she oughta get the bread.
noremf(George)
We are talking about 22 rimfires here .
For 22's I just toss them in the trash.
For centerfires I wait a full minute before taking it out of my rifle then later I pull the bullet and save everything.
Don't worry about duds too much. The only real time to worry about a dud is when it's inside the gun. Outside a gun all that will happen is it goes bang but the bullet is not going much of anywhere with any speed at all. It's the gun chamber and gun barrel that makes a bullet deadly. It keeps the burning inside the shell and pushes the bullet down the barrel at speed. In the open it all goes bang and the biggest danger is part of the exploing shell could put your eye out. The shell itself will bust open and 75% of the time the bullet will still be graped by part of the shell.
A fire marshall once told me that in a house fire one of the most dangous things is a LOADED GUN. As those rounds cook off it could send one down the barrel of a gun hitting a fireman. Ammo itself in carbod boxes will cook off but not much danger if they are not close to them and/or have a wall between them and the ammo.
For 22's I just toss them in the trash.
For centerfires I wait a full minute before taking it out of my rifle then later I pull the bullet and save everything.
Don't worry about duds too much. The only real time to worry about a dud is when it's inside the gun. Outside a gun all that will happen is it goes bang but the bullet is not going much of anywhere with any speed at all. It's the gun chamber and gun barrel that makes a bullet deadly. It keeps the burning inside the shell and pushes the bullet down the barrel at speed. In the open it all goes bang and the biggest danger is part of the exploing shell could put your eye out. The shell itself will bust open and 75% of the time the bullet will still be graped by part of the shell.
A fire marshall once told me that in a house fire one of the most dangous things is a LOADED GUN. As those rounds cook off it could send one down the barrel of a gun hitting a fireman. Ammo itself in carbod boxes will cook off but not much danger if they are not close to them and/or have a wall between them and the ammo.
I'm sure you're right. It just bothers me. Still trying to decide whether it's worth making an issue about.We are talking about 22 rimfires here ....Don't worry about duds too much. The only real time to worry about a dud is when it's inside the gun. Outside a gun all that will happen is it goes bang but the bullet is not going much of anywhere with any speed at all....
Worry about cartridges
noremf(George)
Another thread on RFC that "talks" about a guy that dropped a weight from a barbell or something like that on a cartridge and shot himself. News article on that also. Might want to consider your when to worry beliefs.We are talking about 22 rimfires here .
Don't worry about duds too much. The only real time to worry about a dud is when it's inside the gun. Outside a gun all that will happen is it goes bang but the bullet is not going much of anywhere with any speed at all.
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