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With all this harping on a ballpoint pen trick to lighten trigger pull and still keep trigger return, I tried it.

It works, but is nothing compared to having no trigger return spring at all.

So my question is, considering I rarely shoot as fast as I can, unless I'm being chased by a rabid rabbit, is it safe to leave this spring out and return the trigger to its initial position manually via a small lever glued to the trigger to shove foward with my finger after I fire a shot?

I would think the trigger pull savings might make this interesting for other folks too, if it is safe.

And what's up with the search function, I tried searching for this but its been disabled.

Thank ya'll.
 

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I am the furthest from an expert, but here are some things to think about.

I have done the pen trick, and have found the savings to be a positive gain in improved trigger. To some degree you either have to be satisfied, or you have to look for another option. I think if you get a better trigger, you would be better served by stepping up to the next level (VQ-Kidd) which will offer you a lot more. It will have a nicer trigger, overtravel stop, virtually no pretravel, very light pull, and it will be smoother overall. There is only so much a modified Ruger can give you.

I once thought about this, but the whole beauty of a semi-automatic is that you the shooter don't need to do anything inbetween shots. Just pull the trigger and it auto loads. To me, having to set the trigger like that over and over would be a manual step that would defeat the purpose of an auto. When I think of shooting, in the method that you describe, a bolt action seems so much more appropriate.

If you are at the point where you need to remove the return spring entirely to get a better trigger, then you are well under the 3lb range and that is questionable by many in regaurds to hunting safety.

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Technically, besides being a PITA, there is nothing wrong with doing it that way. As far as punching paper, you aren't the only one who does it that way, but I think it would be a pain for a hunting gun..

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"When I think of shooting, in the method that you describe, a bolt action seems so much more appropriate."

I'd have to agree with IronChef, although if you don't have the extra $ laying around to buy a bolt gun, as long as having no return spring is safe for you and those around you, go for it.

P.S. I've tried using the search function as well, but it's still disabled.... So, what particular pens do you use the springs from?
 

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Antlurz is correct.

I tried to replace the trigger return spring on one of my 10/22s with a captured spring / adjustable trigger stop deal I made and ended up having the spring bind when it was compressed. I took the spring out several months ago and have never put it back.

You have to return the trigger manually but everything else works as it should. Since I shoot mostly USBR type targets with the rifle I have to move around between shots anyway, so that isn't a big deal. I'm thinking about adding a little extension to the bottom or side of the trigger to facilitate resetting it. It takes two fingers at the moment.
 

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I have tried this, and I find that I can use solder to temporarily affix a chunk of stiff wire to the flat part of the trigger exposed at the top of the trigger guard, and that that resets it handily.
 
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