I use a cdi and like it. Made in USA. No need to buy one from a “gun company”
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I have / had several:
Wiha 28506 - wore out TWO of them, one in 2 years of moderate and responsible use, one in THREE months!
Wheeler (my first one, owned 2, I bought the second one because I thought I lost the first one
🤦♂️) and Weaver “seem ok”, but CDI 401 SM, now almost a year into it appears to be the best made and feels the most solid.
This understandably sounds very vague and subjective but imo necessarily so - hardly anyone is in a position to test their accuracy, or even conduct objective durability testing so all we got is our personal experiences.
Wiha 28506 - wore out TWO of them, one in 2 years of moderate and responsible use, one in THREE months!
Wheeler (my first one, owned 2, I bought the second one because I thought I lost the first one
🤦♂️) and Weaver “seem ok”, but CDI 401 SM, now almost a year into it appears to be the best made and feels the most solid.This understandably sounds very vague and subjective but imo necessarily so - hardly anyone is in a position to test their accuracy, or even conduct objective durability testing so all we got is our personal experiences.
...I have to
ask - what is the calling card of the Fixit Sticks - in what way are they a superior solution to a quality torque driver/wrench?Is it convenience, and if it is, how so (multiple components instead of 1)?
Is it accuracy (it seems +/- 10% is what I've seen quoted, doesn't seem particularly impressive, although it's more than adequate for our purposes)?
Is it cost (NO
🤦♂️)From watching videos of people using the all in one (adjustable) sockets online it seems they are less convenient than an adjustable torque wrench, particularly on scope rigs (less so with bases).
... although one could be forgiven for concluding otherwise
I'm not asking those questions to argue or to do anything to anyone's cornflakes 🤦♂️, I am genuinely curious and hoping to learn something, so of course the questions are directed to anyone who uses them and wishes to comment.TIA!
Thank you for the quick response!
A quick followup up question and a comment before a confession:
1. Did you use a torque-checking gauge, like the Snap-on one for over $1,000 when new, or something similar, to make this determination?
2. If their cost came across as my central point, I did a poor job expressing myself
- they'd only be "not worth it" if they were not in at least one way (doesn't matter which) superior to my CDI, while not being inferior in others.I'm not looking for a different way, I am looking for a better - even if only incrementally - way, and I am perfectly willing to back up my curiosity with the necessary cash
...and I will know very soon whether or not they are "worth it" to me because, being a "buy first-ask questions later"
🤦♂️🤦♂️kinda guy I ordered Fixit Sticks - on eBay - earlier this week, I got the set and a lower torque adapter Atlantafireman mentioned earlier in this thread... but later bought 5 more preset sockets, you know, just to be thorough🤦♂️ .I suspect I will like those, and may sell off the 2 variable torque ones.
Summing up, unkind souls
could say my questions were more about seeking validation than seeking information, and if so fair enough - I'm looking forward to more of both from the hopefully many satisfied users of this contraptionOh, and if you own them but don't like them please refrain from sharing it, I'd rather not feel stupid for buying them
🤦♂️🤦♂️
What @Nav said....I have to
Is it convenience, and if it is, how so (multiple components instead of 1)?
Is it accuracy (it seems +/- 10% is what I've seen quoted, doesn't seem particularly impressive, although it's more than adequate for our purposes)?
Is it cost (NO)
From watching videos of people using the all in one (adjustable) sockets online it seems they are less convenient than an adjustable torque wrench, particularly on scope rigs (less so with bases).
... although one could be forgiven for concluding otherwise
TIA!
)I was gonna reply, but he summed it up well.
And everyone that owns a fat wrench or torque wrench has pulled it out to find it was still on the last used setting. I know I have. Was it accurate after that? I have no way to know, but that can’t be done with fix it sticks.
I keep in in my range bag so it’s always available when needed.
Well, no matter the motivation you will not be disappointed if you just like nice tools. I have a bunch of professional power tools you can't buy at a hardware store, and I am NOT a professional carpenter. When I do a project I like to use the right tools that deliver and make short work of it, so even though I totally could get by with Ryobi for the amount of work I do, I have professional grade that will last alot longer than me. That isn't to say that for some things that I only planning on using once I don't go Harbor Freight. I work on firearms a lot more than I do carpentry projects...Thank you for the quick response!
A quick followup up question and a comment before a confession:
1. Did you use a torque-checking gauge, like the Snap-on one for over $1,000 when new, or something similar, to make this determination?
2. If their cost came across as my central point, I did a poor job expressing myself
I'm not looking for a different way, I am looking for a better - even if only incrementally - way, and I am perfectly willing to back up my curiosity with the necessary cash
...and I will know very soon whether or not they are "worth it" to me because, being a "buy first-ask questions later"
I suspect I will like those, and may sell off the 2 variable torque ones.
Summing up, unkind souls
Oh, and if you own them but don't like them please refrain from sharing it, I'd rather not feel stupid for buying them
As far as I know the action screws on a centerfire, bolt-action rifle requires the heaviest torque on a gun at 65in/lbs or about 5.5 Ft. Lbs (except of course re-barreling, and you are not going to do that in the field without a vice unless it's a switch lug and doesn't require an action wrench). That's why there's one in the kit. Any more torque than that, and you're probably talking about an automotive torque wrench, rather than something as fine as these tools. If it were at all common to need more torque than that for a gun they would probably already have one, as this kit was designed specifically to work on firearms in the field from the ground up.
They've add stuff (and I've bought it) when requested by their customers. If you see a genuine need for more torque tell them about it, and they'll probably add it. That's what happened with the variable socket they made, because enough people wanted to be able to torque to odd numbers. I have one too, not that I was one of the ones asking, but I just love their stuff.
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