[OldSwede]

452 "Trainer". Get it from Whittaker Guns. About $210.00 USD. It's a real rifle, with the 452 action and trigger. Spend an extra $10.00 USD and get the Brookie trigger kit. Spend another $100.00 and get real walnut in the "Lux" model.

 

[j.r. guerra in s. texas]

OldSwede pretty much said it for me as well. I'd just add if its iron sight shooting is your game - the Trainer is a heck of deal, shooting as well as more expensive LUX. See ghost ring sight by Eric Brooks - very effective, especially for us with 'older eyes'.

If it will be used with a scope, then American, Style or Silhouette would be better choices - straight stock comb. European 'hogs back' fits irons to a tee, but your cheek weld will not be as good with it when shooting with scope.

Welcome to the CZ clan - this will be your 'first' but very unlikely it will be your 'last'. Good shooting.

 

[gordonmcw]

is the "trainer" available in 22mag?

 

[RimfireJim]

No, 22LR only. See CZ-USA catalog, http://www.cz-usa.com

The 513 Basic is also available in 22LR only.

 

[Markbo]

Ah... well definitely looking for the mag version. So the Lux or American would be the best choice? I'll check Whitaker out for them as well.

 

[mmsb27]

Ah... well definitely looking for the mag version. So the Lux or American would be the best choice? I'll check Whitaker out for them as well.

why constrain yourself?. Get a 22LR and then later get a Mag............ These are addictive - and lifes too short............ you will never regret getting a CZ....

regards
Mark

 

[Markbo]

Honestly? Patience... or lack thereof. I have built 4 or 5 10/22's that are all very very accurate and I simply don't want to mess with a bolt action .22 in the field. I might for a bench gun, but not to hunt with.

Heck I hardly carry my T/C auto .22 just because it only has a 5 round magazine!

 

[mmsb27]

Honestly? Patience... or lack thereof. I have built 4 or 5 10/22's that are all very very accurate and I simply don't want to mess with a bolt action .22 in the field. I might for a bench gun, but not to hunt with.

Heck I hardly carry my T/C auto .22 just because it only has a 5 round magazine!

These are really nice rifles. If you prefer the accurized 10/22s, then maybe you would not like a CZ 22LR. I have more than one -- I really like them. without a doubt, I prefer them over the over more expensive rifles I have....

regards
Mark

 

[recumbent]

After I bought my first CZ, a trainer I quit messing with 10/22s. That $200 trainer shoots more accurately than my tricked out 10/22. I still like to plink with the 10/22 but when I want to get serious I grab a CZ.

 

[Markbo]

Well that's just great....
10/22's, Thompson Centers, Single action big bores, ARs... where will it all end??!?!?!

Mark... and you may be right... maybe I wouldn't like one. Then maybe I will see what sweet little guns they are in .22WMR and won't be able to live without a LR version.

What do ya'll think about the Euro style stock??? How does it fit using a scope? It looks kind of odd, but recoil isn't an issue with there rimfires so I am not worried about that... but cheek weld and scope sighting I am.

 

[recumbent]

I have a scope on my ultra lux right now for load testing it works for me but I may have a longer neck than some.
http://photobucket.com/albums/v249/...ion=view&current=CZultraluxwebUltraLux005.jpg

I had a scope on my trainer then went to the brooks ghost ring rear sight blade. but here is a photo of the trainer with a scope.
http://photobucket.com/albums/v249/recumbent/?action=view&current=cz001a.jpg

 

[10563]

I have the Lux, American and Scout. The Lux is my favorite because shooting with the iron sights (w/Brookies ghost rings) is such a hoot. I also have a 6-24 scope mounted on quick detach rings that I can put on it whenever the need for a scope arises. I've never felt uncomfortable using a scope on that hogback stock but that's just me. Others find the stock a major handicap for scope shooting. I recommend that anybody looking for their first CZ 452 to seriously consider the Trainer/Special. The wood is supposed to be inferior to the Lux but the barrel and action are the same. When placed side by side it's difficult to tell them apart - and the Trainer is about a hundred bucks cheaper. And, as nearly everybody on this forum says, you won't be happy with just one CZ 452 so why not start out with the versatile and inexpensive Trainer then build from that?

 

[j.r. guerra in s. texas]

I have a scope on my ultra lux right now for load testing it works for me but I may have a longer neck than some.
http://photobucket.com/albums/v249/...ion=view&current=CZultraluxwebUltraLux005.jpg

I had a scope on my trainer then went to the brooks ghost ring rear sight blade. but here is a photo of the trainer with a scope.
http://photobucket.com/albums/v249/recumbent/?action=view&current=cz001a.jpg

No offense meant. I resemble that 'giraffe necked' person mentioned above.

My Special is scoped also, even has the 'see-thru' mount allowing iron sight use. I just wanted to stress that for some, scope on a 'hogs back' stock might be difficult to manage. Nice pics, btw.

 

[Markbo]

... so why not start out with the versatile and inexpensive Trainer then build from that?

Because I want it in .22WMR. I am one of those long armed, long necked guys too, so I don't see that humpback being an issue. I'll just shop for the best price I can find.

 

[j.r. guerra in s. texas]

Because I want it in .22WMR. I am one of those long armed, long necked guys too, so I don't see that humpback being an issue. I'll just shop for the best price I can find.

If you can't wait for Trainer / Special .22 Magnum, then your .22 Magnum / hogs back option is set - the FS or the LUX. Both are really nice too.

The LUX:

http://cz-usa.com/01.detail.php?id=3

and the FS:

http://cz-usa.com/01.detail.php?id=45

I chose the FS - but only because I already had a Trainer.

 

[Markbo]

Huh? Are they going to be coming out with a WMR in the Trainer?? First I have heard of that.