The joys of rural property ownership...

Rocinante said:

Would he sell to you? Maybe after a limited harvest of his timber?

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Maine Guy said:

I bought another 30 acres right down the road from where we live last summer. It's in land use, so taxes are nothing.
A beautiful piece of land with a small trout stream. My dream to have.
I month after I buy it, the old fart next door that has a 17 acre contiguous tract next to mine, calls to let me know he's clear cutting the 17 acres. Initially I'm like WXF??

I express my serious concerns since most properties up here in Maine only have a meets and bounds deed.

The big oak tree over by the small pile of rocks, down the hill to the creek bank...that kind. Absolutely worthless.
This is the type of deed shared by both properties.

I send him a certified letter with my concerns, he won't accept it.
He calls and says he's having his daughter and son in law using a phone app to delineate the property lines. I still have serious doubts

SO now the battle begins. Timber trucks going by at 6am pulling the jake brake acting like a retard. Of course my Presa's react on a hair trigger, and go ape sxxx!

Temperatures rising and the possibility for a real conflict is rising also.

FYI, timber up here is BIG business. Someone cuts a bunch of your standing timber, and you're talking thousands, probably tens of thousands of dollars of pinched timber.

My lot is entirely forested with mature and soft and hardwood.
Had to call Maine Forestry Service, have a ranger come out, inspect the job-site and open a complaint.

Meantime I'm paying a surveyor $6K to survey the entire property perimeter. Had to be done eventually anyway.
The sooner you get on and record illegally cut timber stumpage for evidence the better for evidence.

The story continues....
Will update.


Maine Guy

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j.r. guerra in s. texas said:

I hope you receive good news sir. Rural ranch property ownership has a lot of these kind experiences when neighbors don't see eye to eye. A friendly wave and shaking of hands whenever you meet can really help if both sides are willing to live and let live.

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Tripplebeards said:

Yeah, I had to pay to get mine surveyed when I bought it for the bank purposes. I should’ve just paid cash and been done with it since I bought it cheap. That’s where the drama came about with the overlap between mine and the neighbors. When they finally sold it off, the new buyers had to pay for a surveyor or their bank would not loan them the money. They also would not loan them the money, because there was an overlap. So they had no choice but to come to an agreement with me where my property line and there’s met. It was the best thing that could’ve happened, even though my neighbors are a nightmare. Originally, it was approximately 25 acres or so with only 17 or 19 acres being free and clear…if I remember. After the last survey or went through, and we had to agree upon property lines, I ended up with 33 free and clear now. Taxes went up but I can deal with that. Bought my land from my relatives who owned it since the early 1940s. They knew where the property lines were, and so did I. So did the neighbors but as soon as they found out there was an overlap they played stupid And said it must be their land. They’ve all died now and IM SURE they are looking up at me. I’m a firm believer in karma and all good things come to good people. Also, everybody wants what someone else has and that’s the biggest problem. As soon as The last blood relative that on that land pass done all the neighbors knew it and it seemed like it was a free game for everybody to walk onto my property, hunt it, and fish it while I still was the only one that had rights to hunt on it. Then, when no trespassing signs go up, finally after a decade of ownership, I’m the butt hole for posting my private property. If everyone would have enough common sense to know i had to work three jobs to pay it off in five years time and STILL pay a couple grand in years in taxes on top of it to hunting fish, my private property exclusively The world would be a better place. there’s still just too many people that don’t give a **** and are disrespectful. You would think in this day and age that anybody with common sense would not go walking on someone else’s property without getting permission or looking at a plat book. It’s not like when it was back in the 70s and nobody posted their land and couldn’t care less where you walked or hunted or fished. Those days have been done for about 30 to 40 years. As soon as all the goofy hunting and fishing shows came out and people naming a deer that occasionally walks through their property and five other surrounding properties with owners of the same mentality and they ALL think it’s “their deer” IMO that’s when not needing permission all went to hell. Back in the early 70s you rarely heard somebody that cared if you walked on their property or protected deer because they were tree huggers. 99.9% of the people that lived out in Farm land were actual farmers and we’re glad to see every deer on the planet disappear because they were eating their income which was basically corn crops and tobacco. 99% of that land is all been bought for hunting and hobby farm now imo. If not, this farmer is smart enough to lease it out for hunting and make a good amount of money on it. I got a kick out of it. I went to the DNR yesterday to get licenses. They had a pamphlet saying, share your hunting hunting property with turkey hunters! They had a brochure on it and said they would pay five dollars an acre from the DNR to let anybody walk onto your property and hunt it.lol. I just about died laughing Thinking how people pay several thousand dollars a year to lease hunting land but the DNR is offering five bucks an acre to let the general public walk on your land and hunt it.lol

I have offered to every trespasser that I’ve caught that I’ve parked on my private property and walked across my land to go down in fish an exclusive fishing only to them lease for the price of my taxes, which are a couple grand a year. You should see the eyebrows raise when I tell them how much I pay for taxes. i’ve had a few of them call me a smart *** and get an argument for offering that deal. Needless to say if those were the ones I turned in and they got citations. I explained to both of those people that this was my private property and asked if I could come sit in their backyard and bring lawn chairs and invite my family and drink beer and leave trash all over their backyard, uninvited and then come in and read the refrigerator because that’s exactly what they’re doing imo when they invite themselves to trust pass on my property. To me, it’s the same as breaking and entering. I always make sure I’m strapped when I go down to my property, of course cause you never know what kind of delinquent you’re dealing with the parks next to a no trespassing sign and and proceeds to trespass. Figure most of them are probably repeat, offenders and felons and just don’t give a darn. Which I found out that is most the cases from the ones that I’ve turned in. I’ve also had a few tell me that I couldn’t post my private property because they have access to my creek. I always ask them. Why, since there’s no public access to it and never get a response other than they can physically see it from the road. I think it’s just like a fat kid looking at a candy bar and can’t help themselves.

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