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Scope set-up for 10m air rifle

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Greetings all,

I acquired a Weaver 6-24x42 A/O scope, and I would like to mount it on a 10m air rifle. I have two questions:

Do I mount the scope parallel to the bore or do I need to build some minute of angle (MOA) into the mount to compensate for the pellet drop ant the longer distances? I have different inserts for the Burris pos-align rings, so I do so easily.

On which animal - or distance - do you set the scope's zero?

Kindest regards,

M
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You won't need any MOA compensation at 10m meters. A rail for such things is generally not needed until you get to 100, or even 200 yards for rimfire rifles.
For whatever an air gun will do, your scope elevation adjustment in the reticle will be able to handle it at longer distances.
Hi thebeav,

thank you for the reply. Unfortunately, I am afraid that we mis-communicated.

The air-rifle is for 10m Olympic discipline, which implies low muzzle velocity. But, I intend to shoot it at the regular air-rifle silhouette distances, i.e., 20, 30, 36, and 45 m/yards. Hence my question.

Is it clear now, or did I confuse the question even more?

Kindest regards,

M
Are you shooting a break barrel like the HW55 or the more modern PCP or CO2 rifles. The modern rifles wont need any MOA rail. Even at the lower velocity a 10 meter 0 cross will cross again at 30-40 yds depending on the pellet and the velocity. Your real problem may be that even though you can hit a 45 yd Ram you may not be able to knock it over with anything less than a top edge hit. You will probably be using a wadcutter pellet for 10m but you will need to go to a more aerodynamic shape like the JSB 8.4gr for longer range or your drop and wind deflection will be horrendous
You will probably want to set your 0 at the 30 but much depends on your pellet and velocity. Ex. JSB Exact , Wt 8.4gr, BC .0210, Vel 620 fps, Zero 30 yds, 20 yds-.49" high, 36 yds-.90" low, 45 yds-3" low. But all this will change with a different pellet or Velocity.
Zero your rifle at 20 m/yards. Shoot a five shot group with the same zero at 45 m/yds. The pellet drop will tell you if you need any drop compensating mounts for the scope of your choice. Scoped Olympic air rifles make great practice tools in the winter.
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The air-rifle is for 10m Olympic discipline, which implies low muzzle velocity. But, I intend to shoot it at the regular air-rifle silhouette distances, i.e., 20, 30, 36, and 45 m/yards. Hence my question.
I also shoot air rifle silhouette and we compete with all three rifles, including Target rifles. Mine is an Anschutz SuperAir 2002 SSP and it shoots a 7.3 grain pellet at about 575 fps. FWB300's are another popular choice for Target rifle.

Zero: Set your scope zero for chickens (20 yds) and you'll go up from there.

Settings: Most Target rifles will need about 8 to 10 MOA elevation to get to rams. My scope settings are 0, 3, 5, 9 (in MOA). Environmental conditions might shift those numbers one or two clicks (+/- half an MOA) on any given day.

Pellets: as mentioned before, you'll want to try some light domed pellets versus the wadcutters typically used for 10m paper. I suggest JSB 7.3's as a good starting point as that is what works best in my 2002. Don't be afraid to try the 7.87's or even the 8.4's, just know that it's going to take more elevation on the scope to get those heavier pellets out to rams. In the end, use whatever works best.

Knock-down: You don't need to worry about "knock-down power" for rams, even with a light pellet like the 7.3's. As long as you hit the ram it will go down assuming you have correctly-made targets. If you're using extra heavy targets then that may be an issue, but that's not the fault of the rifle/pellet choice.

Lastly, be prepared to pay close attention to the wind and to lean into it with the alignment of the shot. It's not uncommon to have to aim half-way to the next ram to hook it back in to a body shot. Also, pellets don't necessarily act like bullets when it comes to lift or drop based on left or right wind direction, so don't rely on those bullet-based "wind rose" charts.

I love air rifle silhouette and I'm glad we've got a good group of us that shoot it down here in the Texas and Louisiana region. We've got two big air rifle matches coming up in the beginning of the year... the North Louisiana Indoor Air Rifle Regional (a.k.a. the Coop Shoot) in late February and the Shamrock Silhouette Shootout (outdoor regional) in mid-March. If you're anywhere within travel distance then I highly recommend either or both of them!

Good luck.
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Acorneau gave an excellent tutorial, so not much to add. I shoot sporters, so I often set up for a zero on either pigs or turkeys, low hold on chickens and top of the ram, depending on the rifle I'm using. However with the low MV of a 10m gun you'll definitely want to make use of your scopes errectors. Sighting in at chickens, set the turret to zero, then increase from there. If your rifle is pneumatic then a little heavier pellet might not be a bad idea, say in the 8- 8.5gr range, but spring guns, such as the Diana 75 or A&W 300, tend to shoot better with something in the low to mid 7gr range. Good luck and happy shooting.
Greetings all,

first, thank you all very much for your answers.

Second, some clarifications and follow-up questions based on your comments. My 10m target rifle is Walther LG300-XT. I also have a barrelled action for Walther Dominator, but I need to make a stock for it.

I am aware of the limitation(s) of the wad-cutter pellets for longer distances; therefore, I have acquired domed pellet in all the weights that acorneau mentioned. How do I test them to "use whatever works best"?

Regarding the zero settings. What is the logic to set the zero at the chickens? Is it for ease - lack of confusion - when going from one animal to another? As I have no experience with scopes, I was thinking about setting the zero "in the middle", that is that there would be the same numbetr of clicks up and down to be close to the optical center. Or is it a non-issue?

Regarding the shooing in the wind, it will not be a problem, form the practice point of view, but rather from a frustration one. I have an east-ward wind in the mornings, west-ward wind in the afternoon.

Hi acorneau,

I am nowhere close, but there is a monthly Small bore silhouette match on a range about 45 minutes drive.

Kindest regards,

M
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I have acquired domed pellet in all the weights that acorneau mentioned. How do I test them to "use whatever works best"?
Put it on the bench on a non-windy day and shoot groups at 45 yards. The one with the smallest groups wins.


Regarding the zero settings. What is the logic to set the zero at the chickens? Is it for ease - lack of confusion - when going from one animal to another?
Yes, you start at "0", go up for pigs, up for turkeys, up for rams, back down to "0" when moving from rams to chickens. The messiness comes if your scope needs more than one full rotation to get up to rams, then you have to remember to go a full rotation backwards when going down to chickens.

It will all make more sense once you get into it.
Hi acorneau,

thank you for your reply.

Put it on the bench on a non-windy day and shoot groups at 45 yards. The one with the smallest groups wins.
Excellent, thank you.

The messiness comes if your scope needs more than one full rotation to get up to rams, then you have to remember to go a full rotation backwards when going down to chickens.
That is part of my motivation to set the zero about the middle, thus using your numbers by means of an example at turkeys. Then I have about the same amount of adjustments up and down. Sorry to be so insistent, 10m shooting taught me to be as consistent as possible. So, I would like to start correctly and not re-learn after finding that I starter wrong.

Kindest regards,

M




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You want to zero on the chickens so all further animals are "up".

I preferred a 20-30moa base on my target rifle because I run my scope very high and without it the 32x scope wouldn't get to the rams.
Hi Grantmac,

You want to zero on the chickens so all further animals are "up".

I preferred a 20-30moa base on my target rifle because I run my scope very high and without it the 32x scope wouldn't get to the rams.
Thank you for the reply. I will try to do some testing and go from there.

Kindest regards,

M
It's not about drop, it's about height over bore. A 10m sight setting on my rifle takes similar elevation to 40m with a 20m zero.
The numbers will be different with a lower scope but I can guarantee you'll have to add elevation shooting 10m from your outdoor zero and it has nothing to do with ballistics just geometry.
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