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FWIW, that is my perception of the Ruger 10-22. I have owned at least 10 of them. NEVER had one I didn't have problems with the FTF, FTE and stovepipes. Maybe it is too much to ask for the price of a 10-22 but I do not think it is too much to ask that a gun manufacturer make a gun that cycles properly. I finally gave up on the 10-22's and sold them all and have never looked back. I now shoot 9422M's (and other .22's and a new Savage .17HMR) that are more fun and at least as accurate or more accurate out of the box than the typical 10-22. IMO the 10-22 was the most frustrating gun I ever owned and when I shoot gophers with friends shooting 10-22's they get tired of me ribbing them about all the fte's, ftf's and stove pipes. Frankly, it is frustrating for me to witness all of their repeated problems. When they see I have NONE of those problems they admit they are sick of the misfires, etc. As best I can tell the only difference between the 597 and the 10-22 is that there is a ton of aftermarket goodies for the 10-22.

There have been many occasions where my friends and I have collectively shot more than 2-3,000 rounds a day through a 10-22 and I can tell you there was always frustration with the constant problems. Friends of mine still using the 10-22's simply accept the problems as part of 10-22 ownership.

Now, I know I have probably stepped on the toes of some 10-22 owners here and I am the first to admit it is a pretty good bang for the buck and probably one of the all time favorite .22s. However. I will probably never own another 10-22 based on past frustrations. And, I have no interest in buying a gun that needs to be tweaked as much as the typical 10-22 to do what other guns do without modification.
 

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Picher-your point is very well made. You are correct that a person who will not tolerate ftf or fte problems should not have a 10-22--a position I have elected to take! I think it is great there are so many enthusiasts for the 10-22 that it is possible to "build your own". If I had that inclination I am sure it would be fun. But, I just want to shoot and occasionally clean a gun--not make it a vocation! I am not at all critical of those such as yourself who enjoy creating a fine tuned gun that shoots well. For many that is more fun than the shooting itself. But, for myself, I think it is too bad Ruger does not make the necessary modifications to the gun from the factory so that the guns do not have ftf and fte problems.
 
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