I picked up a box today and the results were unbelievable. My 77/22 VMBZ and that 33gr V-max go together like peanut butter and jelly. After shooting other various types of ammo I was starting to wish I had got a 17 hmr instead. But now I am very happy with my 22mag. I am shooting 3/8" groups at 75 yards without any fancy rest and a stock barrel and trigger. I am sure an expert shooter would do even better. I think everyone should try a box.