p22 loaded in chamber
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Unless I was concerned about some immediate life-threating defensive situation, or actively hunting the wiley squirrelosaurus, I wouldn't carry with one in the chamber on any handgun. Chit happens.
Others do, and that's fine, but I worked hard to get this old and I don't want to blow it now. I do agree that the half-cocked position is safer, especially if the weapon is dropped, but no mechanical device is ever perfectly safe. Its easier to work the action and load one when needed than to explain a new and colorful orifice to my friends and doctor . . . and law enforcement. That would take the fun out of almost any outing.
Others do, and that's fine, but I worked hard to get this old and I don't want to blow it now. I do agree that the half-cocked position is safer, especially if the weapon is dropped, but no mechanical device is ever perfectly safe. Its easier to work the action and load one when needed than to explain a new and colorful orifice to my friends and doctor . . . and law enforcement. That would take the fun out of almost any outing.
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Half cocked
If the P22 is anything like a 1911 the "half cock" is really a safety device and is not to be used as anything else. You should not deliberately half cock, and might well find that should the hammer fall from that position your in trouble.
Barry
If the P22 is anything like a 1911 the "half cock" is really a safety device and is not to be used as anything else. You should not deliberately half cock, and might well find that should the hammer fall from that position your in trouble.
Barry
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i always keep one in the chamber!!! with the p-22 .40cal what ever. hammer down safety on. holstered. if i hear a rattle or a ssssssssssssssss. i cock it and draw. when what ever it is is in my sight picture the safety is off in less than a sec. and i shoot.
safety first but theres time ya dont need to be chambering a round.!locked and loaded safety on.
john
safety first but theres time ya dont need to be chambering a round.!locked and loaded safety on.
john
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BTW that has saved my *** a few times. under the brush i had a snake bouts 3 foot from my head,i cocked the hammer before it was out of the holster. as i put a bead on it the safety automatically came off and boom. real fast but i didnt have a choice if i had to chamber that round two handed opperation i would of been bit
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Israeli Shooting
The Israeli police, believe it or not, are not allowed to carry their weapons with one in the pipe. As a result, they had to develop specialized quick-draw/load/aim/fire techniques. I was fortunate enough to have gone through a handgun course through ISI (Instinctive Shooting International - Taught by Hanan Yadin formerly of the IDF) The technique has merit. When I camp I carry an H&K USP. The first round is snake-shot, the next nine are either Hydrashocks or Hornady XTP's. I almost never carry with a round in the chamber. But I've proven to myself and anyone who cares to come to the range with me that I can draw, cock, aim and fire my .45 as quickly and accurately as I could drawing and firing a loaded firearm. (within about 30 feet, which is reasonable for CQB or backwoods situations. I don't know of any snake that can strike THAT far.) If you are lucky enough to get a warning from a snake, you have time to avoid it without having to shoot it. If you get bitten - it's kind of academic really, but shooting it may make you feel better - not to mention it may help to identify an anti-venom.
As far as one-handed operation. That was also something covered by the course. one handed magazine changes, reloads, etc...
ISI used to be in Texas, they had a website which I'm not sure is still up. They put on a great course though.
The Israeli police, believe it or not, are not allowed to carry their weapons with one in the pipe. As a result, they had to develop specialized quick-draw/load/aim/fire techniques. I was fortunate enough to have gone through a handgun course through ISI (Instinctive Shooting International - Taught by Hanan Yadin formerly of the IDF) The technique has merit. When I camp I carry an H&K USP. The first round is snake-shot, the next nine are either Hydrashocks or Hornady XTP's. I almost never carry with a round in the chamber. But I've proven to myself and anyone who cares to come to the range with me that I can draw, cock, aim and fire my .45 as quickly and accurately as I could drawing and firing a loaded firearm. (within about 30 feet, which is reasonable for CQB or backwoods situations. I don't know of any snake that can strike THAT far.) If you are lucky enough to get a warning from a snake, you have time to avoid it without having to shoot it. If you get bitten - it's kind of academic really, but shooting it may make you feel better - not to mention it may help to identify an anti-venom.
As far as one-handed operation. That was also something covered by the course. one handed magazine changes, reloads, etc...
ISI used to be in Texas, they had a website which I'm not sure is still up. They put on a great course though.
why use half cock as opposed to loaded chamber, hammer down? the p22 has a firing pin block which is not disengaged unless the trigger is pulled as well as a spring on the firing pin. With a loaded chamber, hammer down, I wouldn't carry it without a holster.
Yes, there is.
Please, refer to your P22 Owner's Manual, English text, bottom of page 19:
I quote:
3. Drop safety (automatic internal safety)
The drop safety (firing pin safety) is only disengaged when the trigger is pulled. If, after a fall, the hammer was released, then the firing pin would not be activated.
Unquote.
Also, pay heed to the following from the same page (19):
CAUTION: It should be made a common habit to leave the manual safety engaged until you really intend to fire.
Crete
The P22 has a firing pin "drop" safety, which is only disengaged when the trigger is pulled.mastinson said:
Please, refer to your P22 Owner's Manual, English text, bottom of page 19:
I quote:
3. Drop safety (automatic internal safety)
The drop safety (firing pin safety) is only disengaged when the trigger is pulled. If, after a fall, the hammer was released, then the firing pin would not be activated.
Unquote.
Also, pay heed to the following from the same page (19):
CAUTION: It should be made a common habit to leave the manual safety engaged until you really intend to fire.
Crete
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