[Scuba]

Hi all

I found this gun in the depths of my grandfathers basement and was hoping someone here might know a little about it. I have searched the web and can't seem to find a lot about it. this is all the stamping I can read off the gun.

BAYARD logo
ANCIENS ETABLISSEMENTS PIEPER HERSTAL-BELGIUM
BREVET 2642xx
S.?.D.G.
PATENTED DECEMBER 16, 1919

Obviously it was made in Belgium but I was wondering if it was sold over here or had to be brought from overseas. Any history on this gun would be great cause i know little about it.

Scuba

 

[1729]

don't klnow if this will help, but...

http://members.aol.com/bayard1908/index.html

Mr. Dan Chapman
Downsizer Corporation
P.O. Box 710316
Santee, CA 92072-0316 U.S.A.
(619) 448-5510
email: [email protected]

also, http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIIC2c.html

and, http://www.bluebookinc.com/staticinfo/bluebookinc/downloads/PDF/BAYARD.pdf
(a .PDF file)

and, http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/b.htm
(look for Bergmann-Bayard

otherwise do a Google search on the longer mfr name, putting it into quotes before submitting.

Hope this helps. Best regards,

M

 

[13071]

Pieper .22 rifle

Hi all

I found this gun in the depths of my grandfathers basement and was hoping someone here might know a little about it. I have searched the web and can't seem to find a lot about it. this is all the stamping I can read off the gun.

BAYARD logo
ANCIENS ETABLISSEMENTS PIEPER HERSTAL-BELGIUM
BREVET 2642xx
S.?.D.G.
PATENTED DECEMBER 16, 1919

Obviously it was made in Belgium but I was wondering if it was sold over here or had to be brought from overseas. Any history on this gun would be great cause i know little about it.

Scuba

I have a Pieper .22 caliber single shot rifle. It's a boy's size rifle, about the same length and weight as a Remington Model 6 or one of those old Hamilton guns. It's a miniature rolling block action, just like the famed Remington, only sized to handle .22. The barrel is marked 22 LONG, but .22 LR chambers easily and fires without any sign of strain. It's a neat little rifle, which looks a lot older than it may be. My only complaint about it is the sights. They're so small as to be invisible! A tiny notch on the receiver and an even tinier nub at the muzzle, that's all.

You can find out about Pieper'shandguns many places (as referenced above). Henri Pieper was major gunmaker in Liege, Belgium, who sold many guns in the US before WW1 (especially double barrel shotguns). If anybody had more info on his boys' rifles, I'd like to hear it.

Paul Thompson

 

[JohnBT]

From oldguns.net

"Henri Pieper set up shop in Liege Belgium about 1859, and his son Nicolas formed the company of that name in 1898. Best known for a series of semi-automatic pistols, they also made some revolvers and rifles. I couldn't find anything specific on this model rifle, but it is probably among those imported and sold (cheap) by Sears or Montgomery Ward and other mail order houses in the 1900-1930 period. Probably not a high dollar prize, but some kid probably spent many a happy hour safely using that little rifle... John
Spangler"

 

[3975]

Standard Catalog

2004 pg 793 Pieper Bayard in 6.35, 7.65, 9mm short. In other words .25, .32, or .380 , 2.5" barrel, 6rd mag price $75 to $200 for exc cond. Manufactured from 1906-7 till the advent of WWI.