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I used Hoppes #9 or some kerosene with rags and nylon toothbrush to clean one. They aren't bad rifles for the money. If you aren't familiar with them, if you have a model with a bayonet, they are designed to shoot with bayonet extended. If you shoot with bayonet folded, they tend to shoot to the left due to pressure on the barrel from baynet being folded. :bthumb:
 

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I got the m91/30 non-carbine
it was the only one they had where you could see the rifling, and it is very good
cant wait to shoot it
I used 000 steel wool to get the gunk off and hoppes #9 (where it was the thickest)
and lots of paper towels!

not too familiar with it yet... but if anyone has any more pointers please tell!
Just thought of something...
how do you adjust the front sight for windage??
the steel wool is good to get the stock done to the wood
 

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I just got my 91/30 today, also from Big5 :) It seems we're in good company, here are a couple sites I've found that have good info:

http://www.surplusrifle.com/russianmosin189130/index.asp - lots of info about adding a scope, known issues (i.e. the 91/30 tends to shoot about 8" high at 100 yards)

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu74.htm - No penetration tests for the 7.69x54R but he does outline his process for refinishing the wood.

Are you planning to take it to a gunsmith? If you have already, were there any problems?
 

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I mite take it to a gun smith and I mite not
depends on how long i have to what to get it checked out...
as far as the refinishing I asked my Uncle about it (because he has done it before) and he said to use OO steel wool and linseed oil so i did and heres what it looks like!!!

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk10/remington597/100_1860.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk10/remington597/100_1863.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk10/remington597/100_1865.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk10/remington597/100_1869.jpg

Please tell me what you think!
Sorry the pics arent that good...
 

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FYI, the original finish would have been shellac. From the looks of most of the Mosins I've seen they apply it with a rag-mop or dip it in the stuff. Linseed oil will look better though.

Lots of fun to shoot. Warning, the recoil with heavy ball ammo is somewhat stout.

I have a '43 91/30 and a '43 Model 38. Both from the Ishevsk arsenal.

If you want to scope it, you might consider a scout scope arrangement. You can get a mount that replaces the rear sight. Then use a LER scope. That saves drilling and tapping and bending the bolt.

Hector
 

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I havent havent shot it yet and I have to wait for 2 weeks to because my family is going on vaca to phoenix,az.
I had shot a M44 at a range before and liked though I only got 3 rounds off (I didnt feel like hurting the next 2 weeks)
I have read that the recoil on the longer rifle is less, is that true?
and whats considerd "heavy" for this rifle like 180g's?
I have no plan to scope now, but I probably wont just becuase I like using the sights
 

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When I bought the rifle it looked like any other Mosin-Nagant and that you would see, with that red color on it. you couldnt even see the grain of the wood!
what I decied to do is take all the old varnish/shellac/comsoline off and get it down to bare wood. I did this by using OO steel wool and about 4-5 hours of rubbing. Now I am putting a couple of coats of linseed oil on it to protech it
 

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Recoil on all Mosins is fairly stout. Manageable, but stout. Some of it may be due to the shape of the stock.

I would recommend a slip-on recoil pad. The length-of-pull on most of those old surplus rifles is too short for me. The pad increases the LOP in addition to mitigating some of the shoulder punch.

Heavy ball is 180 gr and above. If you plan to reload, and want a less punishing round, use a 123 gr .310 Winchester Power Point bullet over 50 gr of H4895. It's fairly accurate and flies at around 3,000 ft/sec. Recoil on that load is noticably less than surplus rounds.

A couple of years ago you could get surplus training rounds, which used a very light bullet that flew very fast, and had low recoil. IIRC the bullets were blue. I did not try any, and haven't seen them for a while, but I heard they were a lot of fun to shoot.

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Thanks on the info!
I am going to get the headspace checked today and make sure that it has a clean bill of health and to by some ammo.
the reloading info is great thanks, but I wont be reloading any time soon (dont have any of the equipment or now how to do it)
 
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