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IF you're buying something valuable-

1) Ask to speak on the phone


2) Ask for NEW photos, in context YOU require. (Next to a household item)

3) Use Google Lens to search the net for the posted ad photos.

4) Copy and paste Ad copy/Item description into a Google search.


Dear RFC community-
In recent years, internet crime has become a pervasive plague in all areas of our lives. Unfortunately, RFC has also become a target.
Scammers create member profiles and hide among our ranks. They post in forums and even upgrade to "Premium", to lend an air of legitimacy to their user profile. They hack into existing, legitimate user accounts.
They've become patient and more effective, but they're NOT infallible. They can be beaten if you follow some simple precautions. Unless you KNOW the seller is legit, TRUST NO ONE & VERIFY BEFORE SENDING $$$.
Their most frequent tactic is to respond to a WTB aka Want to Buy ad via PM. They also have been known to post guns and scopes for sale that they do not own.
They send a photo of an item the member wants to buy. They often request to take communication off site, to text or email. They even accept USPS Money Orders, and have accomplices in the US to cash them. We highly recommend you avoid using Zelle, CashApp, or PayPal.
First off- length of membership is your first clue. If they are new here, be suspicious and verify them. Get a phone number, actually talk to the seller. Most scammers will bug out rather than try to BS their way through your questions.
Run any photos they send through Google Lens- you might find that they copied and pasted them from GunBroker or another internet marketplace.
Request that they take a new photo of the item with an everyday household item, such as a wooden spoon passed through the trigger guard of the firearm, or place the scope on a baseball cap. Try to think of things that can't be easily Photoshopped. If they make excuses, walk away.

RFC staff is always working hard behind the scenes to protect the site, but it's a constant vigil. We need your help to succeed.

SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING!!!

If you receive ANY suspicious communications via PM, REPORT IT to site staff. There is a report function for PMs, posts, ads and user profiles. Help us protect this great community by reporting anything that seems "off". We will investigate every reported instance and take appropriate action. If you don't know how to report it, send a PM to a moderator or admin.

TAKE SCREEN SHOTS of private messages/conversations. If you DO receive a suspicious PM offer to sell, start another PM by sending a message back to the member offering the sale. When they respond, ask for ALL their information- Name, address, phone number, email address, and photos with props as described above. By initiating the conversation, you can then invite me, JEE, LtCrunch and FlysAlot to the conversation. We can then investigate appropriately.

Unfortunately, if you DO get scammed, law enforcement does nothing to help. Your money is gone, you're on your own.
I've been a victim of it myself.

We are here, we want to help. Take the time to report suspicious offers and reach out with any questions. I'd rather answer 100 mundane questions and vet 100 IP histories than have one more member fall victim to a scam on our site.

Respectfully,

DrGunner

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Below is a list of member profiles that have been banned in the last few months for attempting to scam our members. The first two names are either real people, aliases, or victims of identity theft. Both names were used to successfully scam two of our members out of their hard earned cash.
They use VPNs and software that allows them to vary their login IP from their country of origin to domestic US IP addresses. For example, one member account showed IPs from USA, Canada, England, Turkey, and Nigeria. The vast majority of their IPs show up as if they're in the USA. The current ring of scammers are based in the Atlanta Georgia and Florida panhandle area, so be wary of any seller from Atlanta at present.


Seller named Kenneth Moskowitz
Seller named Jay Cooper.

Banned member profiles:

Clinton4
Rim090
Hol09
rdl88
rainwhaler
Kaylight5903
Lightlee222
reacheweight33
k97pp
saturnson
Largemax4157
Stonek096
maxlee729
miral light55
geoguddy
Agrey71
jungleboy
cowboytune
darksailor
goldenrimmer
roseman
sunflower
jonh12
williamhouck
yuthre43
rhalk147
Greaky
Larrychurch010
Lightlee456
Coyotehunter444
Twilight



^^^ These are ALL linked through IPs & trace back to Singapore or Nigeria.

If you suspect a scam, REPORT IT and WALK AWAY.

DrGunner
 

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We have had a new and alarming scammer tactic on RFC. An old account- Coyotehunter444 had been inactive since 2018-19. It reactivated with a flurry of posts, including several "For Sale" items. A member used Google lens to confirm that the scope photographs posted were taken from another auction site. Turns out the recent login started from Nigeria, and therefore it appears a legit user account was hacked.

The user profile is from WV, and he was asking for payment through his "wife's Zelle account" in California. Prices were uncharacteristically low- which should be a red flag.


RFC STAFF STRONGLY RECOMMENDS: BE SUSPICIOUS OF ANY ACCOUNT WITH NO REVIEWS/SALES COMPLETED. ASK TO SPEAK WITH THE SELLER, DEMAND NEW PHOTOS SET UP WITH PROPS THAT YOU REQUIRE.

REPORT ANYTHING SUSPICIOUS
 

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If the Ad request PM communication ONLY, BE SUSPICIOUS!

Scammers steal ad copy (descriptions) and photos from other sites like 24hourcampfire.com and GunsInternational.com.

Simply copying and pasting the ad copy (Item descriptions) into a Google search can tell you whether the ad is a scam.



DrGunner
 

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RFC STAFF STRONGLY RECOMMENDS: BE SUSPICIOUS OF ANY ACCOUNT WITH NO REVIEWS/SALES COMPLETED. ASK TO SPEAK WITH THE SELLER, DEMAND NEW PHOTOS SET UP WITH PROPS THAT YOU REQUIRE.

REPORT ANYTHING SUSPICIOUS
If anybody asks you to email them off the community and they have a low post count, DO NOT do that; report them for the team to do a deeper dive.

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Thank you for the heads up. Some things get confusing, like I've only attempted to sell just a few guns on Cal guns because I've been there the longest but they prefer you to pm people. I believe this is to not jam up the post. I stopped using wtb because to many had "a buddy that had the barrel I was looking for".
Just gets frustrating for us newer guys to the online world. Just recently became disabled and this is a major way to pass time now. And if you live here in California a lot of people don't want to sell to you even firearm related items that aren't regulated. Had a guy that wouldn't sell me a grip for a TC on gun broker because I'm in Ca.
More that happy to use your assistance in buying & selling to keep from getting scammed.
 

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NEW SCAMMER TODAY:

It appears that a legit account "Twilight" was hacked this week & used to scam members via PM, responding to their "WTB" ads.

Here's the info the scammer used. He also ONLY accepted payment through Zelle or PayPal, which is always suspicious, as the buyer has no way of recovering their money.


The scammer known as "Twilight" uses the following contact info:

User Name- Twilight

Alias-Jason Millings

Email address- [email protected]

Phone- (207) 517-9795
 
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