Kinetic Research (KRG) stock: rear anchoring for unmodified receiver?

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atlantafireman

Discussion Starter · 5 mo ago

I have a Victor Titan22 stock with the spike. It solidly locks my 10/22 receiver: no movement whatsoever. I am very pleased with this stock: no epoxy, no wood preparation, no mess, just a good clean and solid installation. I like a rock solid receiver to stock mate.

I am looking at the Kinetic Research (KRG) 10/22 Bravo chassis stock to replace a bedded and laminated Boyd’s Pro-Varmint stock, provided I gain a $300+ benefit (I know that is hard to calculate). I like that this stock uses an aluminum bedding block running the entirety from the receiver’s rear to well forward of the stock screw, very reminiscent of the Hogue full aluminum bedded stocks (great centerfire stocks). However, other than modifying my receiver to accept a Kidd rear anchor, I do not see how the rear of the receiver is firmly held in place. I have read the installation instructions, and it appears that the receiver’s rear is held through friction between the receiver and trigger group: increase the distance between the aluminum rail/bed and the stock itself.

If someone uses a KRG 10/22 Bravo stock, I would appreciate knowing how firmly the receiver’s rear is held, and the method used (outside of a rear anchor).

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Davcruz

· #2 · 5 mo ago

The KRG 10/22 stock uses a small "shelf" molded into the stock to sit between the trigger group and the receiver, very similar to the Victor (I have both stocks) but no set screw on the KRG. I started out using a Ruger receiver and KIDD trigger group with my KRG and it took about 97% of the rear movement out. If I pressed on the barrel I could get a very slight movement at the rear of the receiver, but it had to be an intentional effort. After moving to a full KIDD build in that stock, I ground the "shelf" out to make assembly a bit more straight forward, and since I have a rear tang on it, that part was not required.

The KRG is a really nice stock in my opinion. The LOP is very short if you are a taller type or have monkey arms. I got the full LOP kit for mine, wish I would have done the adjustable one.

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atlantafireman

Discussion Starter · #3 · 5 mo ago

Davcruz said:
I started out using a Ruger receiver and KIDD trigger group with my KRG and it took about 97% of the rear movement out. If I pressed on the barrel I could get a very slight movement at the rear of the receiver, but it had to be an intentional effort. After moving to a full KIDD build in that stock, I ground the "shelf" out to make assembly a bit more straight forward, and since I have a rear tang on it, that part was not required.

Thank you.
It appears that the KRG provides a good platform.
When you moved to a rear tang, did you notice a change in your group size or otherwise improvement in accuracy?

Davcruz

· #4 · 5 mo ago

The changes to that rifle were large, yes I got better groups but I changed the receiver to a KIDD with tang and KIDD bolt, already had a KIDD heavy barrel and KIDD single stage at that time. Since have moved that rifle to a KIDD 2 stage, groups are even better. This rifle shot well (sub .5" groups with most decent ammo) and now shoots very well. I do not attribute most of the change to the tang, although it is nice and better than the other design on the KRG or the Victor.

atlantafireman

Discussion Starter · #5 · 5 mo ago

Thank you for your honest feedback about the KRG stock.

It appears that I might have better rear receiver stability with my currently bedded wood stock. I have a rock solid bedding, with a tight fit. It will hold a minute, with the proper ammunition, and $300+ buys a lot of ammunition.

Davcruz

· #6 · 5 mo ago

atlantafireman said:
Thank you for your honest feedback about the KRG stock.

It appears that I might have better rear receiver stability with my currently bedded wood stock. I have a rock solid bedding, with a tight fit. It will hold a minute, with the proper ammunition, and $300+ buys a lot of ammunition.

Sure thing, I don't sell stocks so I am happy to give my honest opinion. The KRG is better than the Titan, at least for how I use that rifle on the bench. The Titan is on my "new" woods gun, and it is better for that usage.

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atlantafireman

Discussion Starter · #7 · 5 mo ago

Davcruz said:
Sure thing, I don't sell stocks so I am happy to give my honest opinion. The KRG is better than the Titan, at least for how I use that rifle on the bench.

I only shoot off a bench, and have been using the laminated Pro Varmint and Titan22, for groups. How is the KRG better? If the KRG is able to get tighter groups than my Titan22 with the spike, then I could swap those out.

Davcruz

· #8 · 5 mo ago

atlantafireman said:
I only shoot off a bench, and have been using the laminated Pro Varmint and Titan22, for groups. How is the KRG better? If the KRG is able to get tighter groups than my Titan22 with the spike, then I could swap those out.

It may or may not get you better groups on the bench. It is better for me and my setup, the KRG is flat on the bottom and essentially flat on the sides, so it clamps into my front rest much better than the Titan which is more rounded and more flexible, so I feel the KRG provides better consistency, again, for me. Another difference is the way the KRG rides a rear bag, it is much flatter than than the Titan, and I personally like that better. YMMV

atlantafireman

Discussion Starter · #9 · 5 mo ago

Thank you. I greatly appreciate your candor in describing the KRG Bravo. That is what I was looking for. Now, I understand. I have shot from good rests, with quality bench rifles, and they are an absolute joy to shoot.

jazzsax8

· #10 · 5 mo ago

My Bravo came on the Kidd S.G. won on GB. Not sure I understand the "ledge" description in this thread but the receiver has 6 aggressive lines on it where it contacts the aluminum channel going into place. Tightened the front screw down to 10"lbs and when doing the same at the rear there did not seem to be any movement. It came with the LOP easy adjustment system that I really like as I have been using it on the bench with a no touch method easy to do with the short length of pull. Now for offhand it comes out to 13.5" perfect for my short stature. Have been looking for other options especially in wood but none found already bedded for the rear tang. At just over 2 1/2#'s it weighs right with the Magpul/Titan stocks and the full length aluminum channel at least looks superior. I have only used the Magpul but it seems like a substantial unit for about $325 with LOP adjustment added. Having smaller hands I really like the grip design that gets me close to the trigger for a straight back pull. Tried action screws up to 30inlbs and 10 (Kidd recommended torque) seemed to work just as good and better than some. To consider the options available if I were to net around $225 selling the KRG, I am pretty sure there is nothing out there I need to try that would be better at the price point. Using it with the 20" Heavy and 18" LW super easy to change out with the access holes present.

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Davcruz

· #11 · 5 mo ago

@jazzsax8, if you look at the rear part of the stock where the back of the receiver contacts, there is a small plastic shelf or ledge as you described. That sits in the notch between the trigger housing and the receiver, thereby locking the receiver into the stock at the rear. Obviously with your SG, you have a rear tang so that shelf is not required. The OP does not have a KIDD receiver, and thus no tang. The Victor Titan uses a very similar design. The Magpul does not address it.

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jazzsax8

· #12 · 5 mo ago

OK, now I understand that it is the way it locks into the rear when no tang is attached. Thanks a bundle!

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Davcruz

· #13 · 5 mo ago

jazzsax8 said:
OK, now I understand that it is the way it locks into the rear when no tang is attached. Thanks a bundle!

I went so far as to grind that ledge out of my stock, as it makes it about 10x easier to install the stock on the action for me. lol

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mikewildcat3d

· #14 · 3 mo ago

Davcruz said:
The KRG 10/22 stock uses a small "shelf" molded into the stock to sit between the trigger group and the receiver, very similar to the Victor (I have both stocks) but no set screw on the KRG. I started out using a Ruger receiver and KIDD trigger group with my KRG and it took about 97% of the rear movement out. If I pressed on the barrel I could get a very slight movement at the rear of the receiver, but it had to be an intentional effort. After moving to a full KIDD build in that stock, I ground the "shelf" out to make assembly a bit more straight forward, and since I have a rear tang on it, that part was not required.

The KRG is a really nice stock in my opinion. The LOP is very short if you are a taller type or have monkey arms. I got the full LOP kit for mine, wish I would have done the adjustable one.

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So the rear tang from kid will attach to the rear screw that holds down the rear of the barrel shelf on the KRG stock without modifications ? I just moved one of mine 10/22 from a Titan to a KRG stock also.. Thank you for any help.

Davcruz

· #15 · 3 mo ago

On the Kidd receiver/tang, it uses the rear chassis bolt point.

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Any 22

· #16 · 2 mo ago

Loved my krg and the way it shot until I installed the rear tang on my stock ruger reciever now I double love it and it does shoot much more consistent with it, it cost me a hundred dollars for part and installation best money Ive spent except for the kidd trigger now that was hard to swallow but was worth every penny . Oh by thje way just got my 2nd krg in today.

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crackedcornish

· #17 · 2 mo ago

Any 22 said:
Loved my krg and the way it shot until I installed the rear tang on my stock ruger reciever now I double love it and it does shoot much more consistent with it, it cost me a hundred dollars for part and installation best money Ive spent except for the kidd trigger now that was hard to swallow but was worth every penny . Oh by the way just got my 2nd krg in today.

what color stock did you get?

Any 22

· #18 · 2 mo ago

I have a blk. And just got a flat dark earth.

jazzsax8

· #19 · 2 mo ago

Davcruz said:
I went so far as to grind that ledge out of my stock, as it makes it about 10x easier to install the stock on the action for me. lol

Got to thinking about this and had my stock off to add some picatinny rails. Looking under the shelf, there were lots of fairly deep marks that IMHO had to be fighting the rear tang screw arrangement on my Super Grade. Talked with KRG about removing it and they said to go for it! Took it out with the Dremel and look forward to possible improvements. Like you said, in and out much easier but there should be less of a bind at the rear screw area.

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