A Suppressor will be useless on a Magnum unless you were Shooting sub-sonic ammunition and I doubt you'll find any available.
Kel-Tec PMR 30 Suppressed???
Anyone here shooting a suppressed PMR 30? I have a WMR suppressor and was wondering about factory saying the gun not designed for suppressor use....as if any gun is. Not really that interested in shooing the PMR 30 suppressed as most of the fun is the really loud bang, but just wondering if the problem with suppressor really exist.
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Yes there would be a loud sonic crack but not the loud bang at the muzzle. The sonic boom would be headed away from the gun and no where as loud as the bang from powder at the muzzle. Besides I'm not one to spend the $125 for a threaded barrel to shoot $20 a box ammo when I can shoot $5 box LR ammo just to plink.A Suppressor will be useless on a Magnum unless you were Shooting sub-sonic ammunition and I doubt you'll find any available.
The reason I asked was for a friend who's not on internet and has same gun and was thinking about getting a suppressor for the pistol. The only thing he doesn't like about the gun is the very loud muzzle blast that I love. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
My friend has one. We ran CCI Maxi Mag thru it the other day with (3) different silencers (Liberty Mystic, Liberty Regulator, and SiCo Sparrow). It ran/worked fine with all three.
The thing to remember is the barrel isn't "fixed" like most 22LR's are so the reliability could come into question (failure to fire/feed/extract) without a Booster/Neilson device .
The thing to remember is the barrel isn't "fixed" like most 22LR's are so the reliability could come into question (failure to fire/feed/extract) without a Booster/Neilson device .
Huh, I forgot all about how the PMR-30 recoil system not being "fixed" barrel. Add that to rim-fire reliability problems in some brands and you might have a lot of problems from just failure to feed to blow outs in open chamber. I'll tell him about the problems and let him decide. Thanks for info guys. :bthumb:My friend has one. We ran CCI Maxi Mag thru it the other day with (3) different silencers (Liberty Mystic, Liberty Regulator, and SiCo Sparrow). It ran/worked fine with all three.
The thing to remember is the barrel isn't "fixed" like most 22LR's are so the reliability could come into question (failure to fire/feed/extract) without a Booster/Neilson device .
The other thing I remembered, it's a "heal mag release". So if he is buying for protection, he is going to have to get use to that (although it does hold 30rds)
I'm sure he's used to it now after shooting and carrying it for about a year or tad more. He carries it while on his woods walk, and two loaded spare mags.The other thing I remembered, it's a "heal mag release". So if he is buying for protection, he is going to have to get use to that (although it does hold 30rds)
We do have coyotes to cougars and a few black bears, but the feral dogs are the really dangerous critters.
:shakeheadA Suppressor will be useless on a Magnum unless you were Shooting sub-sonic ammunition and I doubt you'll find any available.
It will be quite a big difference in sound, probably take 30db off of it. Similar amount as a pair of ear plugs. Not sure how that could be considered useless.
Some people want the gun completely silent, others just enough to not need earplugs. Myself I want complete silence so as no one hears the shot. We have 4 cats that panic at sound of gunfire and one boy who doesn't like loud noises.
You obviously have no experience with a suppressor on a 22WMR. My Ruger American is very much hearing safe with my Sparrow. It does have a crack as the bullet breaks the sound barrier, but its MUCH quieter than an unsuppressed 22 LR.A Suppressor will be useless on a Magnum unless you were Shooting sub-sonic ammunition and I doubt you'll find any available.
And that supersonic crack is loud as hell even with HV (1150fps+) 22LR, but there is no loud blast in your ears from the muzzle, just that bullet breaking sound barrier out in front of shooter and the sound is headed away from shooter. Then switch to ammo about 1050fps or less and depending on gun used, suppressor used (5 or 7 baffle or more) and suddenly you have anything from a CB Cap sound to just action working. With the HV in a carbine or pistol, you need hearing protection from muzzle blast.You obviously have no experience with a suppressor on a 22WMR. My Ruger American is very much hearing safe with my Sparrow. It does have a crack as the bullet breaks the sound barrier, but its MUCH quieter than an unsuppressed 22 LR.
Most modern 22lr auto loading hand guns are designed to function best with HV ammo and require hearing protection or you will end up with hearing loss. It's not like TV and the movies where the sniper shoots a large caliber hand gun or rifle and there is no sound, to be that quite it has to be subsonic ammo at about 900 to100o feet per second and then you have a round that's not much good at 500 to a 1000 yards like in the movies.
I have tons of subsonic ammo for 22lr because it's easy on the ears when shooting w/o hearing protection and is better for squirrel hunting because the subsonic stuff will generally knock a squirrel off the tree limb. I do have quite a bit of HV stuff, but it's for 2 revolvers and 4 automatics. It's sure nice to shoot the HV in the 4 semi auto handguns w/o the hearing protection.
Where are you finding threaded barrels with the correct 1/2x28 thread for your PMR-30"s???
Kel Tec advises not to use this barrel http://www.opticsplanet.com/kel-tec-kel-tec-threaded-barrel-with-flash-reducer-for-pmr30.html
And this thread adapter http://www.thesilencerstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=22
To install and use a silencer/suppressor, but these are what my friend is doing and using and where he got them from. Ypurs may be different.
And this thread adapter http://www.thesilencerstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=22
To install and use a silencer/suppressor, but these are what my friend is doing and using and where he got them from. Ypurs may be different.
I think the idea of 3/8x24 was to keep suppressors off the gun, but I seem to remember they were 1/2x28 when they first came out but I could be wrong.
But like I told my friend he would not want to buy anything but a high-end with at least 7 baffles and still wear hearing protection, because that 2.5" barrel will still have a very loud bang. When I had my CZ 512 22WMR cut to 16.5" I was asked if I wanted it threaded, nope it's a waste of money in my opinion because muzzle blast would still be loud and then there is the loud supersonic crack that's right in your face. I have some 1700fps Aguila and with the 7 baffle suppressor on the gun it sounds as loud as my 512 WMR w/o suppressor.
But like I told my friend he would not want to buy anything but a high-end with at least 7 baffles and still wear hearing protection, because that 2.5" barrel will still have a very loud bang. When I had my CZ 512 22WMR cut to 16.5" I was asked if I wanted it threaded, nope it's a waste of money in my opinion because muzzle blast would still be loud and then there is the loud supersonic crack that's right in your face. I have some 1700fps Aguila and with the 7 baffle suppressor on the gun it sounds as loud as my 512 WMR w/o suppressor.
The barrel on PMR's has never had an OD of 1/2 inch, that is why the 3/8X24 threads. (always been that thread)
The pistol is designed so that the barrel and slide travel rearward for 5mm before separating, by this time the high pressure in the barrel subsides. If you put a can on the pistol, the pressure will still be high when the barrel separates from the slide. Be prepared to receive some hot gasses to your face.
There is a reason manufacturers tell you not to do something, and it isn't always because of the lawyers.
Do so at your own peril!
STW
The pistol is designed so that the barrel and slide travel rearward for 5mm before separating, by this time the high pressure in the barrel subsides. If you put a can on the pistol, the pressure will still be high when the barrel separates from the slide. Be prepared to receive some hot gasses to your face.
There is a reason manufacturers tell you not to do something, and it isn't always because of the lawyers.
Do so at your own peril!
STW
I don't agree with this statementA Suppressor will be useless on a Magnum unless you were Shooting sub-sonic ammunition and I doubt you'll find any available.
the ability to shoot without hearing protection would be very nice
most suppressors attenuate about 30db (about the same as a set of yellow foamy ear plugs)
suppressing 22 mags is WELL worth it
I can tell you first hand, that the CMR30 is WAY quieter with a suppressor. Yes it breaks the sound barrier, but its a huge improvement.
AR15's, in .223 and Contender carbines 223's are WAY quieter suppressed as well.
Those who think suppressing 22 mags is a waste of time obviously haven't compared them side by side. I try to avoid ever shooting a 22 mag or HMR or even a rimfire unsuppressed.
I'm still trying to decide if i should get a threaded barrel for my PMR30...it's soooo loud! but i don't want it if it won't function properly.
I can tell you first hand, that the CMR30 is WAY quieter with a suppressor. Yes it breaks the sound barrier, but its a huge improvement.
AR15's, in .223 and Contender carbines 223's are WAY quieter suppressed as well.
Those who think suppressing 22 mags is a waste of time obviously haven't compared them side by side. I try to avoid ever shooting a 22 mag or HMR or even a rimfire unsuppressed.
I'm still trying to decide if i should get a threaded barrel for my PMR30...it's soooo loud! but i don't want it if it won't function properly.
Yes , I modified PMR 30 , and I am shooting Winchester 45 gr subsonic 1060FPS with SUREFIRE 22-S on it without any problem with loading and cycling
The PMR30 is way quieter with a suppressor but u get hot gas and grit back in your face… not fun. The CMR30 is fantastic with a sparrow. People should not comment on sound suppression if you haven’t tried a can on their .22’s and .22 mags. Huge difference.suppressing 22 mags is WELL worth it
I can tell you first hand, that the CMR30 is WAY quieter with a suppressor. Yes it breaks the sound barrier, but its a huge improvement.
AR15's, in .223 and Contender carbines 223's are WAY quieter suppressed as well.
Those who think suppressing 22 mags is a waste of time obviously haven't compared them side by side. I try to avoid ever shooting a 22 mag or HMR or even a rimfire unsuppressed.
I'm still trying to decide if i should get a threaded barrel for my PMR30...it's soooo loud! but i don't want it if it won't function properly.
my question : is there a low back pressure suppressor that works better on a PMR 30? Very cool gun but horribly loud.
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