I'm purchasing a Winchester 1903 next month and was wondering if these rounds are one in the same. Are the ballistics for this round somewhere b/w .22LR and .22 WMR? I noticed Cabela's has .22WRF for about $55.00/500rds. Is that a decent price? Are there other sources for this ammo? Thanks in advance.
Is .22 Win.Auto same as .22 WRF?
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Totally different rounds as Pdwight said. CCI might take pity and make a small run of ammo like they recently did for .22WRF, but its unlikely - not much demand for it.
Sorry.
Sorry.
.22 Win Auto = Wall Hanger
bigt7mm,
The .22 Win Auto cartridge is unique, and very obsolete...! !
There are no "similar to" cartridges, and, the 1903 rifle can not be rechambered or converted to anything else.....! ! :1t
You are buying a "wall hanger" unless you can find some reasonably priced .22 Win Auto ammo.....! !
BigMike
bigt7mm,
The .22 Win Auto cartridge is unique, and very obsolete...! !
There are no "similar to" cartridges, and, the 1903 rifle can not be rechambered or converted to anything else.....! !
:1tYou are buying a "wall hanger" unless you can find some reasonably priced .22 Win Auto ammo.....! !
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BigMike
Thank you all for the info. Being that ammo is obsolete,hard to find and expensive should this reflect on the price of the gun? It is in 90%+ condition.Blue book says $500.00. Is $300.00 a decent price? Are these collectable?
Big Mike,thanks for the extra info and link to OWS.
Big Mike,thanks for the extra info and link to OWS.
Win 1903 .22 Win Auto Rifle
bigt7mm,
Win 1903 .22 Win Auto Rifle Values:
Some typical values: ["Blue Book of Gun Values", 20th Ed. (1999)]
100% = $875. [NIB]
_98% = $825.
_95% = $750.
_90% = $650.
_80% = $550.
_70% = $475.
_60% = $400.
Add ~ 10% to the above values for inflation since 1999.
The Winchester 1903 .22 Win Auto Rifle is sought after by collectors, but only in the better conditions, like 90% or better.
Yes, the fact that the ammunition is obsolete is already factored into the above values, as the ammo has been out-of-production since shortly after WWII. The last box I saw on a dealer's shelf was in the 50's........
The .22 WRF cartridge, a very different cartridge, was still listed by Winchester as late as 1975, and several special lots have been made since then; I believe that CCI is still loading the .22 WRF cartridge.
Hope this helps..........
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BigMike
bigt7mm,
Win 1903 .22 Win Auto Rifle Values:
Some typical values: ["Blue Book of Gun Values", 20th Ed. (1999)]
100% = $875. [NIB]
_98% = $825.
_95% = $750.
_90% = $650.
_80% = $550.
_70% = $475.
_60% = $400.
Add ~ 10% to the above values for inflation since 1999.
The Winchester 1903 .22 Win Auto Rifle is sought after by collectors, but only in the better conditions, like 90% or better.
Yes, the fact that the ammunition is obsolete is already factored into the above values, as the ammo has been out-of-production since shortly after WWII. The last box I saw on a dealer's shelf was in the 50's........
The .22 WRF cartridge, a very different cartridge, was still listed by Winchester as late as 1975, and several special lots have been made since then; I believe that CCI is still loading the .22 WRF cartridge.
Hope this helps..........
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BigMike
In Europe
A number of Winchester 1903 owners, on this side of the pond, in search for a .22 Win Auto ammo subtitute, ask gunsmiths for advice.
I did also.
I was told to convert Winchester Magnum Rimfire (WMR) ammo to shoot in 1903 actions.
Here is how:
The WMR 40-grain bullet is removed w/pliers.
The powder saved aside.
The case is cut, using a small pipe cutter, to a .22 Win Auto spent case's length.
The powder is returned in the case and the original WMR bullet reseated.
Disclaimer: Don't do it. Find some Remington-made (7522) .22 Win Auto, made in the 1970s and 1980s, and be safe.
I asked those who have done the above experiment of re-loading WMRs to shoot in 1903s and the feedback I got (from three different/independent shooters) was that the conversion concept works, but accuracy suffers for anything beyond 25m/27yards or so, while the correct .22 Win Auto shoots accurately with the same gun waaay out to 70m/80yards.
A number of Winchester 1903 owners, on this side of the pond, in search for a .22 Win Auto ammo subtitute, ask gunsmiths for advice.
I did also.
I was told to convert Winchester Magnum Rimfire (WMR) ammo to shoot in 1903 actions.
Here is how:
The WMR 40-grain bullet is removed w/pliers.
The powder saved aside.
The case is cut, using a small pipe cutter, to a .22 Win Auto spent case's length.
The powder is returned in the case and the original WMR bullet reseated.
Disclaimer: Don't do it. Find some Remington-made (7522) .22 Win Auto, made in the 1970s and 1980s, and be safe.
I asked those who have done the above experiment of re-loading WMRs to shoot in 1903s and the feedback I got (from three different/independent shooters) was that the conversion concept works, but accuracy suffers for anything beyond 25m/27yards or so, while the correct .22 Win Auto shoots accurately with the same gun waaay out to 70m/80yards.
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