[Pecci]

How much less likely will an HM2 richochet off water than a .22lr?

 

[Skeeter27red]

Depends

Angle of approach to the water would be a factor, but for all intents and purposes, just consider them to skip across water about the same, the 17 will bounce much further, and for longer.

 

[tweak'e]

good question

water i have no idea on tho i would suspect the bullet would breakup. do some testing and see for yourself.

i have been looking at getting an hm2 exspecially after i bounced a 22lr subsonic round up over my neighbors house some 400 meters away (fired into the ground at right angles to the house)

 

[Go4it]

Slow, heavy, solid = high ricochet potential. Fast, light, prefrag = low ricochet potential. You literally don't have to worry about the 17M2 ricocheting off of a tree or ground, unless its maybe >300yds downrange and slow enough not to fragment. I don't know about water, but I would assume the 17M2 would break up at some angles the 22lr would skip on. Not saying the 17 wouldn't skip at all, just that it would probably take a more shallow angle than 22lr.

 

[1385]

.17 M2 does ricochete!

The .17 gr V-Max at M2 velocities ricochetes off the ground with high frequency. I rarely hear the little pill skip at HMR velocities but it is common to hear it singing through the air at M2 velocities when shooting rodents on flat ground. Not near as bad as a .22 but happens often enough that for safety's sake don't assume it won't skip and hurt someone 1/2 mile away.

 

[USA Varminter]

Don't shoot over water, lead in water isn't good, and the skip is not really anticipated but happens often. Even airgun pellets skip

 

[Go4it]

The .17 gr V-Max at M2 velocities ricochetes off the ground with high frequency. I rarely hear the little pill skip at HMR velocities but it is common to hear it singing through the air at M2 velocities when shooting rodents on flat ground. Not near as bad as a .22 but happens often enough that for safety's sake don't assume it won't skip and hurt someone 1/2 mile away.

OK well then, my bad. Thanks for your input. I was relying on what I knew about the 17hmr. How far were you shooting? If it was say 100yds then that would mean the 17hmr could ricochet at around 200yds. Hmmm...

 

[tweak'e]

thx bill d

anyone had an HM2 bounce (not ricochete) ? i do mean bounce as in hit a tree/rock and come back at you?

22lr's are bad enough but i'm not to keen if HM2 are the same. i regularly get bullets bounceing and flying past my head <joy>.

 

[12851]

i would think?? the shape of the hm2 would have a better chance to "dive" into the water vs the round nose of the lr.

 

[Skeeter27red]

Bounce

I was recently shooting softball sized basalt rocks with HM2 at about 75 yards. I could crack the rocks open, and the bullets shattered into nothing="There was nothing left to bounce around, the largest piece was a small fragment of either copper or lead" (Soft dirt background, cardboard front panel, so I could "catch all fragments" so I could see what was really happening).= no bounce problem.