[mdoerner]

Re: Re: One thing I do not like about the Ruger....

By all means buy the Heritage if you lack the manaul dexterity to perform such a highly difficult task as removing the spent rounds from the Ruger.

I suppose this is why I've been an automatic fan all this time.

It could take as much as 5 seconds to perform this task.

I agree. 5 seconds per chamber is unaccepable.

That really would be a problem if you were being overrun by ground squirrels or other deadly rodents.

You're right. Maybe a .44 mag or .454 Casull is in order.

Perhaps you should write Ruger and let them know about this serious design flaw before it becomes the downfall of the company.

Not a serious design flaw, just not a design feature I desire.

After all Ruger has been with us a long time and I would hate to see the company go bankrupt.

Doubt it since I just bought a 77/22 in .22LR. Should keep 'em afloat for a week or two at least.

It may already be too late. Thousands of Ruger owners after reading your post may trade theirs in for the Heritage because of this never before noticed serious problem.

Hundreds of thousands of used Ruger pistols will flood the market and be sold for pennies on the dollar. Ruger will no longer be able to sell another new single action pistol.

Perhaps for the sake of a good American company we should delete this thread before the public becomes aware of this problem.

No, I'd just like to delete your posts in this thread.

My reasoning?

1.) You stated that the Heritage Arms revovers were cheap, unsafe, and the safety was a gimmick. In all of your voluminous writings in this thread you have neglected to mention WHY this is the case. Having also alluded to having worked on one of these travisties of so called pot metal (my interpretation on your rambling) you have negelcted to share what defect in the Heritage Arms revolver you saw qualified it as junk.

2.) Mossberg and Winchester have sucessfully used Aluminum alloys in the receivers of their shotgins since the early 1960's. Also, the AR-15A2/M-16A2 series of rifles also use Aluminum alloys in their construction. I was wondering if anyone had problems with the aluminum framed revolver from Heritage. I was also wondering if there were any problems with leading in the forcing cones, chamber alignment with bore, etc. to see if what Heritage is offering performs as they have advertised on their website. Your lengthy posts are very light on FACTS, which is what I desired in the first place.

3.) The only reason you want this thread deleted is that I might actually go out and buy a Heritage Arms revolver in spite of your unrelenting fusillade of the words junk, garbage, unsafe, go-ahead-fine-blow-yourself-up, fine-ignore-my-advice-you'll-be-sorry, hope-you-don't-need-all-ten-of-your-fingers advice.

(Wait a minute, those were phrases. Ahhh, he'll never know the difference.)

Now if you would like to start stating some FACTS as to why I shouldn't by this gun, please continue this charming thead at your leisure.

If you're just going to cut-and-paste from your previous rants, please conseve the bandwidth and omit yourself.

 

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I have posted why the BS safety is dangerous. Perhaps you should read it. If you lack the ability to perform such a simple task as removing the empty brass from a single action pistol you also lack the intelligence to use this safety.

If you don't use it the gun is not drop safe. If you lack the ability to unload your pistol you also lack the ability to keep it from falling out of your $5 bargin holster and having it shoot you in your left buttock.

Or it could be someone else you shoot because of your ignorance and your poor choice of a firearm.

 

[mdoerner]

I have posted why the BS safety is dangerous. Perhaps you should read it. If you lack the ability to perform such a simple task as removing the empty brass from a single action pistol you also lack the intelligence to use this safety.

Funny, other than calling the safety a piece of junk, I can't recall a quote in any of your posts WHY it is a piece of junk. Were there burrs on the safety? Did the blocking piece fail to engage? Please elaborate.

Since when does lack of ability reflect lack of intelligence? I suppose all the physically handicapped people out there are just being stupid, right?

If you don't use it the gun is not drop safe. If you lack the ability to unload your pistol you also lack the ability to keep it from falling out of your $5 bargin holster and having it shoot you in your left buttock.

I'll one-up you here. NO GUN ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET EARTH IS DROP SAFE. If you can't keep your freakin' hand on the gun you shouldn't have it in your hand anyways. If you mean by the drop of the hammer on a loaded chamber, then keeping one chamber emplty has been the defacto solution since the late 1800's. Having it fall out of the holster is extremely difficult if you secure it properly. Once again using common sense does not mean spending $$$$. Uncle Mike's has a holster for $10-$20. I suppose that's dangerous too....

Or it could be someone else you shoot because of your ignorance and your poor choice of a firearm.

Since when has bad taste ever killed anyone?

Poor judgement however is not indicitive of whether or not you spend $$$$ on your gun. Your lengthy posts have done nothing to dispel the ignorance of anyone here, including yourself. I suppose all those cheap Marlin Model 60's are just ticking time bombs. Oh, wait a minute! They have Aluminum receivers too! My goodness! How could we have been so blind! Those silly firearms manufacturers have no business using aluminum, carbon fiber, and (oh no!) plastic in the constuction of any firearm. Only steel and walnut are our only options in this area.

I do appreciate your reduction in the length of your posts though. If you would like to start using FACTS, one of two things will happen....

1.) This will become a meaningful discussion.

2.) You won't post on this thread anymore because your opinion does not count as fact.

If typing has become too difficult, just start yelling at your monitor. We can hear you just fine out here.

 

[1807]

I'll one-up you here. NO GUN ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET EARTH IS DROP SAFE.

I have several that are. That is a very important part of good modern gun designs.

Those of us that know and understand gun design would not carry one that was not drop safe. You however can do as you wish.

 

[1807]

Since when does lack of ability reflect lack of intelligence? I suppose all the physically handicapped people out there are just being stupid, right?

If you can't remove ALL the empty brass from a Ruger in less than 10 seconds you are physically handicapped or an idiot.

If you are handicapped then it could be difficult.

If you are an idiot you have no business with a firearm of any kind.

If you compare a Heritage and a Ruger pistol side by side and come to the conclusion that the Heritage is better in any way you are not handicapped but just an idiot.

 

[1807]

Since when has bad taste ever killed anyone?

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Bad taste in firearms has killed several people.

Idiots that do not understand gun design have accidents with junk guns all the time and KILL innocent people.

The accidents could have been avoided by a different "taste" in guns.

Such as one that is drop safe.

 

[Fumbler]

cornbread I think the issue here has nothing to do with guns.
Perhaps if your language was a little more calm and your arguements a little more reasonable (instead of just calling something a POS) then people would respect your opinion more.

BTW, RFC is not a high traffic forum, but it's generally not good posting etiquette to post multiple times in a row when you can put all of your information into a single post.

 

[1807]

Fumbler

I think that you are correct.

I am finished with this discussion.